Game News No Dragon Age until the end of 2009

[larpingdude16]

lol yeah, that would be awesome!

 

[Naked Ninja]

Why would it be "awesome" for yet another PC version of a game to be hugely pirated, giving publishers another reason why they should switch to consoles completely? And for it to be one of the few pure single-player RPGs coming up in the future, not an action-RPG, not an MMO, not a casual title. Something that at least aims towards "our" demographic.

Please explain. Try not to drool while doing so. You seriously think it would be worth just it for a cheap laugh? More fool you then.

 

[MetalCraze]

Why would it be "awesome" for yet another PC version of a game to be hugely pirated, giving publishers another reason why they should switch to consoles completely?

EA switching to consoles completely and stopping flooding PC market with shit games?...

...yay!

Something that at least aims towards "our" demographic.

Probably that's why it is multi-platform just like JE, ME and KotOR which aim at "our" demographic just the same.
But it has top-down view (together with 3rd person view ME style) - that definitely makes it a tro() RPG

 

[larpingdude16]

i have both a ps3 and xbox 360

 

[larpingdude16]

and I plan to buy a Wii eventually

 

[Serus]

Why would it be "awesome" for yet another PC version of a game to be hugely pirated, giving publishers another reason why they should switch to consoles completely?

EA switching to consoles completely and stopping flooding PC market with shit games?...

...yay!

I have to agree with Skyway on this.

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

Why would it be "awesome" for yet another PC version of a game to be hugely pirated, giving publishers another reason why they should switch to consoles completely? And for it to be one of the few pure single-player RPGs coming up in the future, not an action-RPG, not an MMO, not a casual title. Something that at least aims towards "our" demographic.

Please explain. Try not to drool while doing so. You seriously think it would be worth just it for a cheap laugh? More fool you then.

Oh cry me a river. Those publishers can go fuck themselfs, some other less moronic people will take there place.

 

[Naked Ninja]

Probably that's why it is multi-platform just like JE, ME and KotOR which aim at "our" demographic just the same.
But it has top-down view (together with 3rd person view ME style) - that definitely makes it a tro() RPG

I wasn't talking platform when I was talking demographic fool. I meant type of games we enjoy.

Oh cry me a river. Those publishers can go fuck themselfs, some other less moronic people will take there place.

Please, less shortsighted stupidity. Whoever replaces them will still be looking to make profit from their invested capital and will still do market analysis when they decide on where to invest their capital. The more RPGs that sink like rocks, the less likelihood that any current or future mainstream publishers will risk investing in Troika version 2, or whoever. For the mainstream to take risks on new RPGs, current RPGs need to make profit. The more the better.

 

[aweigh]

entire crpg genre needs 2 die b4 it can b rebron :prophecy:

 

[MetalCraze]

Probably that's why it is multi-platform just like JE, ME and KotOR which aim at "our" demographic just the same.
But it has top-down view (together with 3rd person view ME style) - that definitely makes it a tro() RPG

I wasn't talking platform when I was talking demographic fool. I meant type of games we enjoy.

Oh man - being a console game already means that it will contain a stupid story, cliche characters, gimmick stat system, combat halo/GoW style, fake C&C, minigames and other general dumbing down. Always. Multiplatform means this.

Which in turn doesn't make DA a game that "we" enjoy.

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

Please, less shortsighted stupidity.

Ok - do you always suck someone cock so much that it falls off?

Whoever replaces them will still be looking to make profit from their invested capital and will still do market analysis when they decide on where to invest their capital...

...and maybe they try to invest into something niche, lets say RPG?

The more RPGs that sink like rocks, the less likelihood that any current or future mainstream publishers will risk investing in Troika version 2, or whoever. For the mainstream to take risks on new RPGs.

You really believe that the Mainstream(TM) will risk there money into something like a proper RPG? You really are stupid as people say.

current RPGs need to make profit

Bethesda "Shooter", Biowares "Copy-past"...oh wait there was this Adv-RPG called "The Witcher" that sold quite good, why did it sell again?

The more the better.

Not true.

 

[Naked Ninja]

Oh man - being a console game already means that it will contain a stupid story, cliche characters, gimmick stat system, combat halo/GoW style, fake C&C, minigames and other general dumbing down. Always. Multiplatform means this.

Plenty of Codexers enjoyed KoToR and Morrowind. You may only be able to enjoy bitching Skyway, but that doesn't make your opinion representative of the hivemind.

 

[Naked Ninja]

...and maybe they try to invest into something niche, lets say RPG?

Explain why, in a way that isn't just blind fanboy optimism, if RPGs haven't been making money.

You really believe that the Mainstream(TM) will risk there money into something like a proper RPG? You really are stupid as people say.

Grow up. Just about every game developed is a risk to publishers, most don't recoup their costs. The point is that developers are less likely to invest in what seems like bad risks. If even a big name like Bioware fails to make a profit on an RPG, publishers will be less likely to risk their shareholders money.

Bethesda "Shooter", Biowares "Copy-past"...oh wait there was this Adv-RPG called "The Witcher" that sold quite good, why did it sell again?

And you don't think their sales would have been harmed if they'd been leaked online months before release?

 

[larpingdude16]

The RPG genre will eventually be taken over completely by indie companies, that is what I think. Can't wait for that to happen.

NO

 

[The Feral Kid]

"Another bullshit announcement from Bio obviously handed to them by EA in order to justify the unjustifiable."

So, delaying games is now 'unjustifiable'? That's retarded.

No. You are retarded.

Because the game isn't delayed because it needs more development time, but due to the stupid notion of EA that releasing a game for the PC first isn't a good "business" decision, despite during its entire development cycle clearly being stated that it is a PC-designed game.

 

[MetalCraze]

Oh man - being a console game already means that it will contain a stupid story, cliche characters, gimmick stat system, combat halo/GoW style, fake C&C, minigames and other general dumbing down. Always. Multiplatform means this.

Plenty of Codexers enjoyed KoToR and Morrowind. You may only be able to enjoy bitching Skyway, but that doesn't make your opinion representative of the hivemind.

Plenty of Codexers did not enjoy KotOR and Morrowind. What was your point again? Ah "our" and "we" words that you used probably should make it all clear.

 

[larpingdude16]

The RPG genre will eventually be taken over completely by indie companies, that is what I think. Can't wait for that to happen.

NO

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

Explain

I don't know... Isn't this the very basic rule when starting your own business - you don't aim for a market that is full of strong competition that is dig in, but you search for a "niche" in the market.

Some guys here in Poland (two of them) started making dice (mainly for PnP games) and suprise, they started making profit with there hand made dice. Later they bought a special machine (not cheap) that helped speed up the production of there high quality dice. They became a real firm later - now how did they do that?

if RPGs haven't been making money.

Presumption - show me the proof.

Grow up.

Man the fuck up.

Just about every game developed is a risk to publishers, most don't recoup their costs. The point is that developers are less likely to invest in what seems like bad risks.

Well fuck, thanks for pointing that out because some of the people reading this may not know how things roll in the biz.

If even a big name like Bioware fails to make a profit on an RPG, publishers will be less likely to risk their shareholders money.

WAIT WHAT? What are we talking about here? About piracy or Bio making shitty games. If Bio can't sell a game thats probably means it's shit. If it had been stolen then what bizness have other publishers in it?

And you don't think their sales would have been harmed if they'd been leaked online months before release?

So it is piracy we are talking about, ok.

So again we are in the "Arrrgh" topic, lets be short on this one:
- if someone is dl the game it doesn't mean he would bought it in the first place, of course this is a crime but still there is no $ in here
- if someone downloaded the game and came to a conclusion it's NOT WORTH his money then what does it tell us about the game
- if someone downloaded the game and came to a conclusion it's WORTH his money he will probably buy it if he has cash - let's face it not everybody has cash. Lets look at TW once again - some people bought it twice (TW and TW:EE... and some will probably by TW:TRoWW), what does it tell us, that the games worth it (at least for them)

As you can see, it always comes down to one thing - is the game worth it.

 

[Darth Roxor]

How nice that Dragon Age is a pc only title with a possible console port sometime later amirite.

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

Right.

 

[racofer]

I'm so good.

 

[larpingdude16]

I'm so good.

NO

 

[kris]

double post

 

[kris]

Unfortunately I have to agree with Naked Ninja on this one. Maybe I should just download a xbox360 version and buy the PC one... :D

 

[Rhalle]

So they can do a full-blown witcher rip-off now.

I bet we see lots of particular parallels between the games; even new information today at UK gamespot suggests a couple more.

Perhaps at release some folks will be asking if Bioware just borrowed excessively, if CDProjekt had some contact with the game or something while making Witcher, or if it's one big weird co-incidence.