Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

[Cosmo]

How is "Amauna" pronounced anyway?

A-ma-u-na
or
A-mau-na

I'd say first one, i reckon it's supposed to sound polynesian or something...

 

[Harold]

How is "Amauna" pronounced anyway?

A-ma-u-na
or
A-mau-na

(the hyphens indicate where a syllable ends)

I'd say neither, learn2read or quote people who actually got the spelling right or wait for Sawyer to change their name because a lot of people can't spell it/pronounce it right.

He pronounced the name in at least one of the update vids btw, don't remember which one.

 

[Infinitron]

Who cares how it's pronounced? Fuck voice acting.

 

[Jasede]

Probably something like

"ah-mah-uu (not "yu")-nah".

I don't like the name much. I don't like the races much at all.

 

[Harg Harfardarssen]

Yeah, generally I'm not a fan of the "our [generic fantasy race] is different" approach. Sometimes its done well, but usually it just smacks of trying too hard.

 

[coffeetable]

Yeah, generally I'm not a fan of the "our [generic fantasy race] is different" approach. Sometimes its done well, but usually it just smacks of trying too hard.

Yeah. Personally, I much prefer it when designers don't try and instead shit out the first idiot idea to come to mind.

"Ugh I don't like this game they put too much effort in"

 

[Blaine]

I prefer when they try and then actually succeed, but instead they came up with cat leprechauns and beach orcs.

Edit: Although I will admit that the Orlan concept seems pretty cool. It's better than hobbits.

 

[Harg Harfardarssen]

Yeah, generally I'm not a fan of the "our [generic fantasy race] is different" approach. Sometimes its done well, but usually it just smacks of trying too hard.

Yeah. Personally, I much prefer it when designers don't try and instead shit out the first idiot idea to come to mind.

"Ugh I don't like this game they put too much effort in"

If you want elves, dwarves and orcs, just use elves, dwarves and orcs. Or come up with a new and interesting PC race instead of wasting effort trying to make orcs but, like, with a totally new spin. Our elves are live in the ghetto! No one knows how to pronounce the name for our orcs! Innovation!

All the talk of Dark Sun made we wish they had done something along the lines of the Thri-keen. Hive-minded insect people isn't exactly a new concept, but its something that hasn't been done much for rpg PCs.

 

[oscar]

Arcanum is a great example of how you can have a lot of fun with the stock, un-edited D&D races by simply altering the time and setting it takes place out of ye old generic medieval high fantasy realm and taking things to their logical conclusions.

 

[hiver]

Many as One.

The other game will do it. Its not PEs job.
As for Orcs, any presentation you can see anywhere is a ripoff from J. R. R. Tolkien. The best solution would be to stop using the concept entirely and let it return to its root, original setting. And stay there.
These new re-imaginings of that original concept are just ridiculous anyway.

 

[Delterius]

actually succeed

No shit.

As for Orcs, any presentation you can see anywhere is a ripoff from J. R. R. Tolkien. The best solution would be to stop using the concept entirely and let it return to its root, original setting. And stay there.

What if they were a race of martians corrupted by the Elder Gods and set to invade the lands of High Fantasy?

 

[hiver]

Ridiculous, stupid cosmetic changes of a blatant rip-off. Same as any else.

 

[Infinitron]

We don't actually know if Project Eternity has an equivalent of orcs. In fact, we don't anything about its monsters at all, other than the fact that they're going to make a bunch of them to match the IE games' impressive bestiary.

 

[Delterius]

Ridiculous, stupid cosmetic changes of a blatant rip-off. Same as any else.

 

[Delterius]

I'm under the impression that you don't know the orcs in Warcraft are martians corrupted by DEMONS and set to invade Highfantasyland.

 

[Infinitron]

This is the only art I've seen from Project Eternity that has monsters:

But those things seem more like mindless undead than orcs.

Not its equivalent of the original concept but their version of distorted "macho-warrior" type (with green skin)

Well, I would say that "macho warrior type" is represented in D&D by half-orcs and in PE by the Aumaua. I'm talking about the original concept wretched trash mob orcs.

 

[hiver]

You mean as enemies? No, i havent seen or heard anything about that in PE so far.This mob in the art looks more human, maybe zombies of some sort. Clearly all connected and probably directed by some entity through those stripes of black.
I was talking about races a player can choose for PC. (that concept WiP art of that dreads wearing female "orc") Half-orc, orc - its all the same shit.

 

[Moribund]

I have outsperged infinitarD?! Yes there are what amount to half orcs as player characters. Remember the WIP DO NOT MAKE FUN OF ARTS WITH THE HALF ORC CHICK I was making fun of a while back?

Also, love the new art. Project ethnicity: KEBAB REMOVAL.

 

[Lancehead]

You mean cooldowns. See, they're good for something.

 

[Infinitron]

http://www.formspring.me/GZiets

 

[Infinitron]

http://www.formspring.me/GZiets/q/422814868723229858

Does PE have a apocalypse myth/idea?

Not yet, but we’re still developing the cosmology. One or more cultures might end up having an apocalypse myth.

 

[waywardOne]

Well, at least they're considering the cosmology as a whole, even if I think they're working backwards.

 

[Jaesun]

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/63...olution-damage-vs-armor-and-a-tileset/page-13

There will absolutely be circumstances where using a certain weapon, weapon type, spell, spell type against a specific enemy will be a tactically inferior choice, just as there is in A/D&D. The reason you have a party and the ability to switch weapons, spells, abilities, etc. is to allow you to adapt to the tactical requirements of different battles.

In 3E/3.5, if you have a character equipped with a mace and a character equipped with a longsword facing off against a zombie and a skeleton, insisting on attacking the skeleton with the longsword and the zombie with the mace will almost always be a bad tactic. Insisting on casting sleep against them is a bad tactic. If you cast Reflex-based AoE damage spells against rogues and monks, that's usually a bad tactic. Casting fireball at a red dragon is a bad tactic. If a tactic is never circumstantially bad, that's the death of tactical challenge. Why think of something else to do when the thing you've always done works just fine?

But just to make clear, in contrast to A/D&D, PE's weapon types will not be strategically inferior, i.e. bad even in the absence of context. There are a ton of weapons in every edition of A/D&D that are flat-out terrible on paper compared to other weapons. In 3E/3.5, it's usually Simple weapons, but there are plenty of Martial weapons that most people would never take. For example, why would I use a Heavy Mace when I could use a Morningstar? The latter weighs less, does the same damage, has the same crit range/multiplier, and two damage types (B/P vs. the Heavy Mace's B). Why would I use a Greatclub when I could use a Heavy Flail? The Heavy Flail weighs 2 lbs. more but has a higher crit range and has bonuses against disarming and when making trip attacks.

So if you want to make a dagger-wielding character, even a dagger-wielding fighter, that will absolutely be a viable choice in PE. If we do our jobs well, it should be roughly as viable -- and vulnerable to tactical challenges -- as a fighter who uses longswords or a pike. I wouldn't say that's usually the case in A/D&D. But there will be cases where Dagger Guy is going to run into problems against a particular enemy -- just as there will be for Longsword Guy and Pike Guy.

 

[suejak]

Is he claiming that D&D is a poorly-thought-out system?????????? But it was made by professionals! Of systems!

 

[Roguey]

Sadly some of those undeniably-inferior-in-every-way weapons are bad-by-design thanks to Monte Cook and his timmy card nonsense.