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Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]
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It should be fixed now.The requested URL /bilder/160512/5341736RogueyF.jpg was not found on this server.
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The lab wouldn't be there anymore by the time you go back to it. The documents would be exposed as forgeries. The skulls would go missing or you'd wake up in a ditch. Bates would mysteriously have no time for you anymore and law enforcement would probably want you on murder charges and so on.
I wouldn't be surprised if the entire island had sunk by the time you try to get there. It's just that kind of thing. You know? It's a "mood" they were aiming for. The player is supposed to feel annoyed and powerless. He's supposed to try to go from NPC to NPC, trying to somehow finish this, clear this up. And then he's supposed to be disappointed. They attained their goal with flying colors.
I wouldn't be surprised if the entire island had sunk by the time you try to get there. It's just that kind of thing. You know? It's a "mood" they were aiming for. The player is supposed to feel annoyed and powerless. He's supposed to try to go from NPC to NPC, trying to somehow finish this, clear this up. And then he's supposed to be disappointed. They attained their goal with flying colors.
Clockwork Knight
Arcane
So, that quest is pretty much a playable NTR hentai.
Not a terrible idea. The PC is usually the babby who gets lectured on by everyone else in the world, even though he's also usually more capable than them all. It's nice when he gets to teach and explain things to other characters.
Not a terrible idea. The PC is usually the babby who gets lectured on by everyone else in the world, even though he's also usually more capable than them all. It's nice when he gets to teach and explain things to other characters.
hoverdog
dog that is hovering, Wastelands Interactive
Like Geralt and Alvin in the Witcher?
Not a terrible idea. The PC is usually the babby who gets lectured on by everyone else in the world, even though he's also usually more capable than them all. It's nice when he gets to teach and explain things to other characters.
Brotherman Bill
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Arcanum apologists gonna apologize...
Oh and in typical Arcanum fashion, you really can't even try doing anything. Can't raise ruckus, can't take allies with you to the Island, no nothing. You can always just massacre the gnome - but if I recall correctly, the gnomes all have good alignment so you take alignment hits for it. The only reason you can't do anything with it is because the game said so and because it wasn't actually finished on release, so they accidentally a quest resolution.
Phelot
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oh sorry, i thought we were playing the game as it was, not larping. My bad, i hadn't realize there were so many bethesda faggots on these forums.
DraQ
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mood's got nothing to do with shitty quest design
That's true. Mood is a part of good quest design.
Brotherman Bill
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In order for a question to remain open, it has to be a question that has to remain open. You have to justify that somehow. Making the game ignore all your attempts at doing so isn't a good story device, it's just lazy. It's like writing "you're mystified" and leave it at that.
What? I think I'm missing out on some juicy info here. What happened?
DraQ
Arcane
See Morrowind quest involving clicking on several activators scattered all over the gameworld.
grotsnik
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Well, idonthavetimeforthiscrap is right, in that as far as I can remember, you can ignore the fake reporter and head straight to the main office of the Tarantian Telegraph (whose editor has already got a very profitable story out of you and should therefore be reasonable) and no dialogue option will appear - there's a legitimate complaint in that the devs haven't thought to make the conspiracy far-reaching enough to stymie you at every turn; aside from that one option with the fake reporter, you're only stymied because nobody's had time to account for your every movement. In other words, the frustration of the Half-Ogre Island quest was a great idea but would have been even better (and more frustrating) if the player had genuinely had a sense of impotence entirely within the gameworld, rather than a sense of impotence because the devs couldn't put a counter-measure in place against more than one permutation of the player's predictable desire to take down the bastards responsible.
That describes basically all Morrowind's quests.
Herostratus tells it like it is, instead of the other apologetic faggotry going on here, explaining away what was most probably just an oversigt or lack of completion. The most simple explanation is often the correct one.
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If you can get the point across in a few strokes there's no need to make many. The missing NPC and the journalist got the point across.
I can't believe you people sometimes. Arcanum is riddled with bugs and questionable design choices and flaws but this quest isn't of them; believe what you like.
I can't believe you people sometimes. Arcanum is riddled with bugs and questionable design choices and flaws but this quest isn't of them; believe what you like.
What, the simplest explanation is that they forgot to finish a quest and it randomly made sense unfinished?
Herostratus tells it like it is, instead of the other apologetic faggotry going on here, explaining away what was most probably just an oversigt or lack of completion. The most simple explanation is often the correct one.
General Maxson
Arcane
Arcanum is great.
What, the simplest explanation is that they forgot to finish a quest and it randomly made sense unfinished?
Herostratus tells it like it is, instead of the other apologetic faggotry going on here, explaining away what was most probably just an oversigt or lack of completion. The most simple explanation is often the correct one.
Forgot? Yeah, the fact that the game was an unfinished mess of aspiring to greatness was surely a factor of them "forgetting" to finish the quest and implement the mechanics properly.
http://www.cybergamer.com.au/articl...w-with-Josh-Sawyer-of-Obsidian-Entertainment/
New interview, with some more info.
New interview, with some more info.
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