Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[HoboForEternity]

finished lamasthu's womb level.

the trash mob on this dungeon


this is 1.0 pillars of eternity level of shittyness. in fact this arc is full of trash mobs. some encounters are fun, but from the start, it was mostly "slowly cut trough the fog of war and destroy hordes of enemies" but yeah, after 72 hours apparently ( fuck my ass this game is huge! deadfire took 83 hours for me) you can see the dev's inexperience compared to obsidian. mostly in general polish, QoL and the finer touch of the detail. the levels especially shows.

in the end, i just have all my mages equip fireball in their slots, have harrim cast resist fire, and start spamming fireball EVERYWHERE
the resist spell absorb all the damage while those fuckign spider swarms got blasted off to the first world.
still wonderful game, although the honeymoon is over, i still enjoy it. it won over deadfire in basically ruleset and other minor stuff, since owlcat have the extensive pathfinder IP behind them. deadfire however, won in overall atmosphere, encounter design is definitely superior (most of the time anyway so far) the finer touch like how UI work, etc, deadfire overall have edge over P:K.

eh i am just happy we got several great RPGs this year. plus, if they ever release the turn based combat for deadfire, it would shake things up enough .

 

[ga♥]

What are you even babbling about? You cried about vendors not having healing potions while the game literaly drowned you with them. My first playthrough I had to leave like 100+ "cure moderate wounds" potions in the capital stash because encumbrance and shit.

"dev inexperience" wtf.

 

[HoboForEternity]

What are you even babbling about? You cried about vendors not having healing potions while the game literaly drowned you with them. My first playthrough I had to leave like 100+ "cure moderate wounds" potions in the capital stash because encumbrance and shit.

"dev inexperience" wtf.

there are literally no shops left that sells potion, dunno if intended or a bug, and like other said, you still can function without potion.
As for other criticisms for this game, i think they sre legit.

The UI, information display, etc isnt as intuitive as deadfire, the encounter design are sometimes are a pain in the ass, with occasional great stuff.

Most of the level, looks and feel kinda bland.

And that's okay. I still love the game, no game is perfect and they dont have to be.

 

[ga♥]

Did you buy also haste scrolls?
Just go play PoeII.

 

[HoboForEternity]

Did you buy also haste scrolls?
Just go play PoeII.

lol go suck your russian dicks. Apparently having a criticism of a game is not allowed now.

 

[Lawntoilet]

Did you buy also haste scrolls?
Just go play PoeII.

lol go suck your russian dicks. Apparently having a criticism of a game is not allowed now.

There are definitely valid criticisms of this game, a lot of them even. But a lack of healing options and/or scrolls is not at all an issue, in my experience.
The fact that Chapter 7 actually makes you rely on a lot of your hoarded consumables was the best part of the endgame.

 

[Efe]

i dont understand, it bothers you that some encounters are actually hard unprepared and require countermeasures?
and what is intuitive about deadfire s "information display"?.

 

[Cael]

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Broken record time again, eh? Some people are soooooo sensitive about their chosen game.

Yes or no would stop the "broken record" immediately so you have no reason to obfuscate like this every time it's asked

Some drooling retard on the Internet demands you answer his question and you submissively do so, izzit? In that case, please go kill yourself.

What is it with entitled mother-raping fucks demanding that you do things for them and getting huffy when you don't?

I mean it's obvious you haven't played the game because your comments never have anything to do with the game itself, so you basically have answered it, but if you want to maintain the fiction that you're somehow projecting bigdick energy by obfuscating, then quit whining about people asking it.

Lol! Your entitlement baby instinct shine through so much that it is hilarious. You act as if pointing flaws in the game is somehow an assault on your manhood. Son, if you have a dick that small that you need to demand things of other to feel big about yourself, do us all a favour and kill yourself because you will never amount to anything but oxygen thief status.

 

[Safav Hamon]

I was told to wait a month and the completion rate would be higher than 1%. Nope.

Kingmaker has the lowest completion rate of any CRPG on steam.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I was told to wait a month and the completion rate would be higher than 1%. Nope.

Kingmaker has the lowest completion rate of any CRPG on steam.

why is a long crpg a bad thing?

 

[Safav Hamon]

For further context, only 10% of kingmaker's players have finished Chapter 3. That's less than the percentage of players that beat Pillars of Eternity.

 

[Cael]

I was told to wait a month and the completion rate would be higher than 1%. Nope.

Kingmaker has the lowest completion rate of any CRPG on steam.

why is a long crpg a bad thing?

There is a difference between long and incomplete. Bugmaker is the latter despite the avalanche of fixes.

 

[Lawntoilet]

You act as if pointing flaws in the game is somehow an assault on your manhood.

There are definitely valid criticisms of this game, a lot of them even.

 

[Cael]

You act as if pointing flaws in the game is somehow an assault on your manhood.

There are definitely valid criticisms of this game, a lot of them even.

Like most hypocrites, it is OK if you do it, but if someone else does it, pop goes the weasel. It is not as if it is that rare. The whole SJW and Black Lives Matter camp do it all the time.

 

[Lawntoilet]

You act as if pointing flaws in the game is somehow an assault on your manhood.

There are definitely valid criticisms of this game, a lot of them even.

Like most hypocrites, it is OK if you do it, but if someone else does it, pop goes the weasel. It is not as if it is that rare. The whole SJW and Black Lives Matter camp do it all the time.

Except you don't ever make specific, accurate criticisms of the game's actual issues, which would indicate you've actually played it. You just say "too buggy to play" (not true as of right after launch), "muh SJW" (a bit, but just as much trolling of SJWs), "stat bloat" (true in Ch6 but less of an issue than the banal encounter design) or just the fact that you hate Pathfinder rules (fair enough, I don't like PnP Pathfinder much either, but it works well in the game).
Saying that your vague and useless criticisms are vague and useless for discussing the game isn't hypocrisy it's just the truth.

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

Pillars is finished more because A) it's easier and more accessible to steamroll through, and B) Kingmaker's excellent p'n'p system makes people want to constantly start new characters, where in PoE it really doesn't matter. Kingmaker kicks people's butts because it takes a brain to play and be good at where other RPGs like Pillars just requires you to breathing.

 

[Lawntoilet]

I was told to wait a month and the completion rate would be higher than 1%. Nope.

Kingmaker has the lowest completion rate of any CRPG on steam.

Pillars is finished more because A) it's easier and more accessible to steamroll through, and B) Kingmaker's excellent p'n'p system makes people want to constantly start new characters, where in PoE it really doesn't matter. Kingmaker kicks people's butts because it takes a brain to play and be good at where other RPGs like Pillars just requires you to breathing.

1. Kingmaker is extremely long
2. It's fun to restart and sink time into trying new builds
3. It's significantly harder to git gud than PoE
4. Chapter 6 sucks and I bet a lot of people quit there and restart

Or maybe people just find it boring? Harder games than this have higher completion rates.

PoE1&2 are both much more boring than PFK

 

[Safav Hamon]

fluent

Or maybe people just find it boring? Harder games than this have higher completion rates.

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

Or maybe people just find it boring? Harder games than this have higher completion rates.

Doubt it. People probably rage quit and proceed to leave negative reviews on Steam about how unbalanced the game is. Trust me, I've read many of them on there, most with hundreds of hours played yet leaving a Negative and complaining how in their latest ragequit the RNG is rigged, or the devs don't know how to make encounters, or any number of excuses and reasons why the player is impatient and can't cope with a challenging and hardcore CRPG. I highly doubt it's boredom. Just look at the Steam reviews and see.

 

[Safav Hamon]

FYI, this game isn't challenging. Just tedious and poorly balanced.

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

FYI, this game isn't even challenging. Just tedious and poorly balanced.

Oh, my mistake, I must have missed that in my 500 hours of playing.

 

[Safav Hamon]

I'm glad you found enjoyment in such banal encounter design

PoE1&2 are both much more boring than PFK

Yet only 10% of players finished Chapter 3 of Kingmaker.

 

[Lawntoilet]

FYI, this game isn't challenging. Just tedious and poorly balanced.

It's based on 3.PF, it never had a hope of being balanced.
It's not tedious until Chapter 6 encounters though (maybe Chapter 4-5 kingdom management if you really hate running your kingdom)

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

I need muh balinse, all classes should be equal and homogenized. Balinse is very impotdant.

 

[ArchAngel]

I need muh balinse, all classes should be equal and homogenized. Balinse is very impotdant.

Damn man, you are turning more Codexian by the day :D
Next you are going to start posting Sawyer memes and start talking about niggers and jews