Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Shadenuat]

I am going to go through ideal very easy tunnel totaly not a trap showed by totally no suspicious character to see whats it about for once (because I always help Regill otherwise).

moscow is under cover of snow it's not even 7 am, i am playing pathfinder with tomato juice with vodka. life could have been worse.

oh right i need to finish sosiel quest again before getting to the good parts of the game. already it gets worse.

 

[Desiderius]

I am going to go through ideal very easy tunnel totaly not a trap showed by totally no suspicious character to see whats it about for once (because I always help Regill otherwise).

moscow is under cover of snow it's not even 7 am, i am playing pathfinder with tomato juice with vodka. life could have been worse.

oh right i need to finish sosiel quest again before getting to the good parts of the game. already it gets worse.

That’s a nice one if Trickster’s alive and you made your skill checks with her.

 

[golgepapaz]

Tips for Lann:

1) If you see (reduced) after his damage that's a big issue. Cold Iron Arrows are for sale for a reasonable price at your local arms vendor. You get them for free at level 7 if you stay ZA. DR/Good* is less common but once you get to +5 you bypass it. Magic Weapon, Greater + Hunter's Assurance (Swarm Queen Short Bow) does this at level 8 and lasts several hours.

Ki-strike Cold iron should not work for arrows.Zen archers get that ability for arrows at lvl 17 normally. Also if Greater magic weapon stacks with weapon enhancement it's a Op bug.

 

[Parabalus]

The siege seems incredibly open and a PITA to scrounge every corner, going from Regill's it almost immediately branches into at least 3 different paths.

 

[Desiderius]

Nah once you get the feel for it it’s easy. You have a mission to follow. Don’t get distracted.

 

[Sarkile]

The best run I've had through the siege was to take Regill's suggestion and take out the Giants, opening the gates from the inside as I went. Afterwards, I was able to climb down the scaffolding to open the Eastern gate, and cleared the map in a clockwise manner doing that

 

[Desiderius]

Good God that Garg cave on Hard. Got there. Sort of. Wolj just fought his way up the ramp slaughtering the second to last group just him and Yaker. But all the ones below wanted to Smite Good +4 and focus my MC constantly and High Cleric got off a lucky Enervation that drained four levels from MC after Lann inexplicably woke it up from Nenio's Rainbow Pattern (Big Boss has no SR!) with a big fat crit but still. MC stupidly trying to cast a summons to even up numbers instead of beating face, lose the Casting Defensively roll and get crit on the AoO. Had on Death's Door because first try on Hard but rest of team mopped up quickly.

Epic, epic.

Inversion of the usual Boss with SR masses without just brilliant had me scratching my head.

 

[CaesarCzech]

At this point im convinced that once we can mod this stuff Desiderius needs to be part of difficulty mod that changes difficulty from just adding more of the same enemies to more diverse array of stronger enemies, depending on how easy modding is with mod tools i fully believe that Des can pull off a mod as popular as call of the wild if he restrains himself and actually respects the name of difficulties.

 

[Desiderius]

They’re already doing it.

 

[Parabalus]

Nah once you get the feel for it it’s easy. You have a mission to follow. Don’t get distracted.

You say that, but then there's a tavern with a mini-boss tucked away in the top corner.

So Aru straight from the prison, at lvl 8/2, has the same AB/attack # as a PC ZA. Guess we'll need lvl 11 for the step up.

 

[frajaq]

Why just one?

Unlike Kingmaker there are A LOT of narrow corridors in WotR.

Leave alone having a pet, having 2 characters enlarged can be a problem in some location that sometimes I use reduce person on some melee just for pathfinding.

So bottleneck tactics like in Pillars of Eternity will work well in certain missions?

 

[Infinitron]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous/posts/3110749

Wrath of the Live Orchestra

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[Desiderius]

No, I say finish your mission before clearing out the buildings. If you think he's tucked away get your eyesight checked.

I'm not going to do the reading for you. I've already explained the difference between ZA and Ranger. Aru has a busted ability of her own.

Finally figured out why Gargs felt like such a difficulty spike*, especially on Hard and now feel like an idiot. Luckily all you clowns were maleducated that Good = Estrogen so you probably won't have the same problem.

Spoiler

* - they're all anti-paladins

 

[Sarkile]

No, I say finish your mission before clearing out the buildings. If you think he's tucked away get your eyesight checked.

I'm not going to do the reading for you. I've already explained the difference between ZA and Ranger. Aru has a busted ability of her own.

Finally figured out why Gargs felt like such a difficulty spike*, especially on Hard and now feel like an idiot. Luckily all you clowns were maleducated that Good = Estrogen so you probably won't have the same problem.

Spoiler

* - they're all anti-paladins

Do you mean the cave in Act 2? I haven't completed the Beta yet, so I don't know if they make many more appearances.

 

[Desiderius]

Do you mean the cave in Act 2? I haven't completed the Beta yet, so I don't know if they make many more appearances.

That's where the biggest problem is and where you notice the gap between Nenio, Lann, Wolj, and pet running around like they're invincible while Seelah, MC, and Ember are getting boned for the first time in the game. And of course the ability

Spoiler

Smite Good

isn't just there. Good idea not to ignore it, you know how good it is the other direction. Really looking forward to eating a Mark of Injustice.

Again absolutely brilliant area/encounter design. Why would you need the HKs? They're not even Good.

Here. FEEL the need up your ass goody two shoes!

 

[Parabalus]

The black dragon's fang (50k buy in camp) seems to ignore its ICD if you get off multiple attacks with Cleaving Finish. Absolutely fantastic weapon.

No, I say finish your mission before clearing out the buildings. If you think he's tucked away get your eyesight checked.

Doesn't make sense, since one of the three keys to the backdoor for opening the main castle gate is next to him.

The pixel hunting is really worse than in KM, since for some reason they made the camera complete garbage.

Do you mean the cave in Act 2? I haven't completed the Beta yet, so I don't know if they make many more appearances.

That's where the biggest problem is and where you notice the gap between Nenio, Lann, Wolj, and pet running around like they're invincible while Seelah, MC, and Ember are getting boned for the first time in the game. And of course the ability

Spoiler

Smite Good

isn't just there. Good idea not to ignore it, you know how good it is the other direction. Really looking forward to eating a Mark of Injustice.

In my case they spammed that stuff on the NPC crusaders.

 

[Sarkile]

The black dragon's fang (50k buy in camp) seems to ignore its ICD if you get off multiple attacks with Cleaving Finish. Absolutely fantastic weapon.

I really like that weapon. In my case, I noticed its value in the caves below Leper's Smile with a Bloodrager with Cleaving Finish. It might be toned down in future updates or patches, but it was definitely noticeable.

That's where the biggest problem is and where you notice the gap between Nenio, Lann, Wolj, and pet running around like they're invincible while Seelah, MC, and Ember are getting boned for the first time in the game. And of course the ability

Spoiler

Smite Good

isn't just there. Good idea not to ignore it, you know how good it is the other direction. Really looking forward to eating a Mark of Injustice.

Yeah, those Gargoyles wrecked me a couple times. It doesn't help that they flank you couple times throughout the battle.

 

[Desiderius]

It's not going to be toned down, it's a complete trap that makes you waste all your money. There's already too many items with unique effects that will be good the whole game for you to buy (and that go away once you take Drezen) to be wasting money on a +3 Longsword with an Acid Bomb attached. A little damage and y'all are like Pavlov's Dog.

Pixel hunting? Do you know how to use Tab?

That key is on the other side of the room. By complete your mission I mean eliminate the Giants since that opens up a highway to get anywhere you want in the level. Then you methodically clear areas/buildings and have a nice home base to sell your gear that you can always get to.

 

[Parabalus]

Hindsight is 20/20.

What did you buy in C2?

There's a similar sword afterwards in Drezen for another 60k, but you do get a lot of other swords on the way.

Pixel hunting? Do you know how to use Tab?

That's not related to that key, but the whole game. KM also had a lot of this, where supremely important items are in a rubble on the edge of a map.

 

[Desiderius]

Maybe try Perception?

Spoiler

 

[LannTheStupid]

Regarding the videos about the orchestra: it's such a joy when Russians speak Russian and do not have to contort their tongues around weird English sounds and their brains around stupid English grammar.

 

[Desiderius]

Hindsight is 20/20.

What did you buy in C2?

Game is all about hindsight. It's a Roguelike in disguise.

Unfortunately this time I had to buy Scribing Supplies for Nenio. Hopefully that gets fixed soon. Trickery/Perception ring a must. INT Headband with Mind Immunity likewise. Arcana Bracers in Heart. Should have bought Necro Ring there. Rods. Fireball Ring if you can afford it. +1 level Belt is probably good for Nenio, turns a lot of useless stuff into barely viable stuff. Regill's Holy Hooked Hammer. Ceremonial Falcata is also great if you're on that.

Other stuff I'm forgetting.

 

[toroks]

So if an oracle takes nature mystery he gets bonded mount. What types of animals can he choose (medium sized characters like humans)? Can he use that animal both as a normal animal companion, playing separately, in addition to having the option to play mounted? (so you can mount and unmount the animal at will?) Don't have access to beta, just to make that clear

 

[Sarkile]

It's not going to be toned down, it's a complete trap that makes you waste all your money. There's already too many items with unique effects that will be good the whole game for you to buy (and that go away once you take Drezen) to be wasting money on a +3 Longsword with an Acid Bomb attached. A little damage and y'all are like Pavlov's Dog.

Do you have any examples of items that are so exceptionally unique as to relegate a +3 AOE Longsword into shit tier? Other than that smattering of equipment you posted earlier that was extremely situational and had unique effects with extremely low save DCs.

 

[Desiderius]

It's not going to be toned down, it's a complete trap that makes you waste all your money. There's already too many items with unique effects that will be good the whole game for you to buy (and that go away once you take Drezen) to be wasting money on a +3 Longsword with an Acid Bomb attached. A little damage and y'all are like Pavlov's Dog.

Do you have any examples of items that are so exceptionally unique as to relegate a +3 AOE Longsword into shit tier? Other than that smattering of equipment you posted earlier that was extremely situational and had unique effects with extremely low save DCs.

AoE what? A little damage every three rounds? You have casters for that shit. Or Cleave. Your blowing your wad for an Acid Maw.

Yes, I've already posted them, but guess you can't fix stupid. Enjoy your shitty MMO.