KickStarter Pathologic 2 (AKA Pathologic remake)

[Berekän]

Interested to see if this solves the pacing issues the original game apparently has. Almost started a playthrough of it some months ago but learned afterwards that the sequel was actually a remake.

 

[Nano]

I'm still baffled by the publisher mandate to call this Pathologic 2. All it does is confuse people.

 

[alyvain]

I'm still baffled by the publisher mandate to call this Pathologic 2. All it does is confuse people.

I think it's alright. There are at least four Pathologics (original, HD-remaster, the Marble Nest and now Pathologic 2). Of course it would be better if this thing was marketed as Pathologic 2 right from the start.

 

[Wunderbar]

I'm still baffled by the publisher mandate to call this Pathologic 2. All it does is confuse people.

I think it's alright. There are at least four Pathologics (original, HD-remaster, the Marble Nest and now Pathologic 2). Of course it would be better if this thing was marketed as Pathologic 2 right from the start.

how it should've been:
- Pathologic
- Pathologic (no reason to give it a different name: you can't buy original anymore, and there is barely any difference between it and HD remaster)
- Pathologic Remake - Playable Teaser
- Pathologic Remake

 

[Skdursh]

It's been said hundreds of times already, but it's not a remake. The developers have repeatedly stated that it's a reimagining of the original game, a similar story and world, but not the same story and world. Hence the 2.

 

[Wunderbar]

Hence the 2.

2 implies a sequel, not reimagining.

Not to mention that almost every video game remake is a reimagining.

 

[Skdursh]

Hence the 2.

2 implies a sequel, not reimagining.

Not to mention that almost every video game remake is a reimagining.

Does Final Fantasy VII have anything to do with Final Fantasy VI? Numbering something the next in succession does not mean it has to be a direct continuation of it. Just that it has a similar theme.

 

[Wunderbar]

Hence the 2.

2 implies a sequel, not reimagining.
Not to mention that almost every video game remake is a reimagining.

Does Final Fantasy VII have anything to do with Final Fantasy VI? Numbering something the next in succession does not mean it has to be a direct continuation of it.

ok. 2 in the title implies it will be either a sequel, or another entry in anthology series.

 

[Skdursh]

2 in the title implies it will be either a sequel, or another entry in anthology series.

Neverwinter Nights 1 --> Neverwinter Nights 2

Not an anthology, similar themes in the same world, but the two games have no direct relation. There are many other examples of this in literature, movies, games and so on. While it may be personally counter-intuitive to you, it is not a revolutionary idea. The "2" implies an update on the original formula.

 

[Jenkem]

The actors are getting nervous and arguing before the play.

Let's go, the clock is ticking...

 

[Wunderbar]

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/05/23/pathologic-2-review/

this reboot is a godforsaken mess littered with interesting ideas, none of which will be appreciated because it is hobbled by a pervasive crappiness. After only nine hours, I’m on day three of a twelve-day story and my character is dying. I’m infected, I’m starving, and I’m exhausted. This isn’t a description of a tough-but-interesting time I’m having in a bleak world. It’s a reference to the three meters in the corner of my screen (infection, exhaustion, hunger) which have convinced me that, despite a townload of spookiness and intrigue, those nine hours are more than enough. Thanks, Pathologic 2, but no thanks.

 

[Jenkem]

It's like evil dead 2 to evil dead

 

[Mark Richard]

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/05/23/pathologic-2-review/

this reboot is a godforsaken mess littered with interesting ideas, none of which will be appreciated because it is hobbled by a pervasive crappiness. After only nine hours, I’m on day three of a twelve-day story and my character is dying. I’m infected, I’m starving, and I’m exhausted. This isn’t a description of a tough-but-interesting time I’m having in a bleak world. It’s a reference to the three meters in the corner of my screen (infection, exhaustion, hunger) which have convinced me that, despite a townload of spookiness and intrigue, those nine hours are more than enough. Thanks, Pathologic 2, but no thanks.

Couple more quotes:

In between death and resurrection, you meet a creepy stage director in a purgatorial theatre, who curses you and says each death will make things harder. This will happen whether you saved or not. He’s very poetic about it, but in practice he means: “I’m going to permanently knock off the top of your health bar.” Or some other equivalent handicap. At one point he cursed me so that hunger will come quicker. Thanks.

After a bunch of deaths a purgatory man will offer to take away the penalties

Each successive death stacks on the debuffs until eventually Pathologic 2 takes pity and removes them all? So at a certain point its beneficial to intentionally kill yourself to escape the death spiral and restore the game to its factory settings.

 

[Puteo]

I wouldn't be surprised if said "purgatory man" is converting the effect on your stats to an effect on the town and the story. The whole game is about these unforeseen consequences after all.

Shit review from RPS, as to be expected. It would be interesting if Quintin Smith reviewed it as he published the original 'let's play' that generated so much western interest in the game. One of the only 2 good reviewers they ever had.

 

[Cromwell]

Whats the problem with the Meters? Whats the problem with debuffs by death, cant you just not die?

 

[Jinn]

That review looks to have been written by a child throwing a tantrum when their toy didn't do exactly what they thought it should. And from what I can tell this "professional" not only hasn't played the original game, but has only made it 9 hours and into the third day of this one. What a little bitch.

Each successive death stacks on the debuffs until eventually Pathologic 2 takes pity and removes them all? So at a certain point its beneficial to intentionally kill yourself to escape the death spiral and restore the game to its factory settings.

Don't worry. I wouldn't be surprised if this moron completely misunderstood whatever mechanic was at work here because it wasn't explicitly spelled out for him. He clearly likes to cry about games that approach things in unique and interesting ways.

 

[PrettyDeadman]

So, is this GUD?

 

[AnnoyanceCrime]

I would be more worried for the quality of the game if gaming journalists actually did like it.

 

[Safav Hamon]

Put all this together with the samey character models and the clumsy combat, and Pathologic 2 starts to feel less like an interesting failure and more like a budget Skyrim

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

Based Ice-Pick Lodge.

 

[Jinn]

Don't forget this gem.

If the intent here is to follow a Soulsian “hard is good” philosophy and apply it to the survival genre, this is misplaced. Souls games are about reaction, movement, and practice.

Skyrim and Souls games mentioned and unsuitably compared to the game in the same review! I think we just got a game journalism bingo!

 

[Orma]

Pathologic 2 out now
23 MAY @ 8:07PM - ALEX@TINYBUILD

The doors are open. Come in, take your seat, and enjoy the show!

Launch Trailer:

 

[Infinitron]

GOG: https://af.gog.com/game/pathologic_2?as=1649904300

 

[Ivan]

tonight

 

[alyvain]

Please tell me whether it's gonna work fine on potato PCs. The Marble Nest barely worked. I know they said that optimisation is a must, but with IPL you can't be quite sure.