KickStarter Phoenix Point - the new game from X-COM creator Julian Gollop

[Shog-goth]

What really pisses me off is the fact that they just have to re-proprose the simulationist, class-less and action point approach of the original X-Com, updating graphic and UI and write a barebone story for narrative purposes to please those who believed in Gollop (aka the backers goons like me) and would have been willing to invest in them again. In addition to this they could have had a potential new long-selling future classic in their hands, instead of this forgettable tragic travesty. Gollop should only be ashamed of himself, he managed to rape his own legacy.

 

[ArchAngel]

What really pisses me off is the fact that they just have to re-proprose the simulationist, class-less and action point approach of the original X-Com, updating graphic and UI and write a barebone story for narrative purposes to please those who believed in Gollop (aka the backers goons like me) and would have been willing to invest in them again. In addition to this they could have had a potential new long-selling future classic in their hands, instead of this forgettable tragic travesty. Gollop should only be ashamed of himself, he managed to rape his own legacy.

I think you are overestimating your importance.

 

[Shog-goth]

I think you are overestimating your importance.

Do you think the mass give a fuck about this "game"? They betrayed and lost their loyal audience (like me and the other backers) and gained no new one. As soon as the NuNuXCOM comes out this "game" will only be good for bundles, lowest tier of course.

 

[sser]

Going onto Epic Games should have been a red flag because it shows a lack of confidence in their own product. Even a Gollop goo gobbler like myself could see that.

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

Shame really, they went from this gritty, dirty, hobo scavenging survivors fighting fkr scraps to generic power ranger shit. In addition to everything else that was changed PLUS the Epic shenanigans. Dont forget they pretty much said "Yeah we went to epic, you dont like it - too bad. We are rolling in dough and preorders and do not care".
People tend to remember that

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

Also those short stories were pretty rad, they set up the stage for this desperate battle really well, then you boot up the game, watch the intro which is kinda meh, and then just jump in with your power rangers.
Sad!

 

[ArchAngel]

You storyfags are hilarious.

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

You storyfags are hilarious.

True. I like a good story. Nothing wrong about that

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

They racked the cash, thanks to the original design, from the goons like me that backed in good faith and then use it to chase the NuXCOM train, and I suspect this was the plan from the start. Unfortunately they are still running.

Is it pozzed like NuCom is though?

The latest X-Com release looks like it's basically 'aliens and non-whites team up to kill white men'.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

They racked the cash, thanks to the original design, from the goons like me that backed in good faith and then use it to chase the NuXCOM train, and I suspect this was the plan from the start. Unfortunately they are still running.

Is it pozzed like NuCom is though?

The latest X-Com release looks like it's basically 'aliens and non-whites team up to kill white men'.

*XCOM.
Enforcer was the last X-Com.

 

[ArchAngel]

You storyfags are hilarious.

True. I like a good story. Nothing wrong about that

It is when talking about Xcom like games where story is last thing that matters. UFO story was "Here are aliens in their flying saucers, go kill them all!"

 

[Togukawa]

You storyfags are hilarious.

True. I like a good story. Nothing wrong about that

It is when talking about Xcom like games where story is last thing that matters. UFO story was "Here are aliens in their flying saucers, go kill them all!"

Yeah. Good thing they butchered the art style of phoenix point for the sake of the story .

 

[Shog-goth]

Yeah. Good thing they butchered the art style of phoenix point for the sake of the story .

In fact the story is a boring and derivative shit and they had to change a great art style to fit in more with it. Now both sucks, it seems reasonable.

 

[Alienman]

I find the story one of the better parts of the game, it has a certain melancholic feeling of doom & loss.

 

[Shog-goth]

I find the story one of the better parts of the game, it has a certain melancholic feeling of doom & loss.

I consider it banal and boring but I respect your opinion. I'm so upset with PP that probably I'm unable to find even a little good thing about it.

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

You storyfags are hilarious.

True. I like a good story. Nothing wrong about that

It is when talking about Xcom like games where story is last thing that matters. UFO story was "Here are aliens in their flying saucers, go kill them all!"

Story was pretty good, much better than previous xcoms. As Alienman said, it was about melancholy, loss and decay.

 

[Shog-goth]

We do not have an exact date yet, but it will be this month. We will most likely announce the release date next week. There will also be a trailer. I can share a bit of info about what can you expect:

Legacy of the Ancients - delves into the secrets of the Antediluvian Civilization that predated modern human civilization on Earth. Explore ancient ruins for knowledge of this precursor civilization, and use its secrets to research a whole new line of Phoenix Point weapons and technologies. But beware: the ancients left powerful guardians to watch over their secrets, and know that you won’t be the only one seeking to control this ancient knowledge; new rivals will rise up as the legacy of the ancients is revealed to humanity.

Includes:

• new story missions and cinematics
• new mission types
• new enemies and new evolutions for the old ones
• new environments
• new points of interest on the globe with a unique way of exploration
• new resources with a unique way of obtaining
• new researches
• 6 new powerful weapons to manufacture

 

[Great Deceiver]

Didn't read the thread, is this complete shit or mildly entertaining? How does it compare to nuXC?

 

[Togukawa]

Bland and soulless nuxcom clone, with a simplistic mobile tier geoscape but a better combat engine.

Playing combat missions is fun for a while, but it gets horrendously repetitive fast.

 

[ArchAngel]

Didn't read the thread, is this complete shit or mildly entertaining? How does it compare to nuXC?

Much better. Gollop was mostly inspired by Xcom Apocalypse. It was released very buggy and unfinished but they have been slowly improving it over the months. The next patch might bring it to a very nice state (one that comes this month with DLC2) where it is fun and balanced at same time. For now it lacks balance (in way that it is too easy atm).

 

[Jimmious]

ArchAngel did they ever mention anything about the Steam release again? Supposedly should come soon

 

[ArchAngel]

ArchAngel did they ever mention anything about the Steam release again? Supposedly should come soon

It is 1 year after Epic release so in December. From what they done and said so far DLC3 will be done for Steam release. They also plan to improve diplomacy, AI and research by then. And vehicles.

 

[Anthedon]

So they took sweet, sweet Chinese Epic money to run an extended beta test?

 

[Togukawa]

So they took sweet, sweet Chinese Epic money to run an extended beta test?

Not even that. Beta tests are for feature complete software. It wasn't even remotely feature complete at release, and they are still adding essential things like the promised evolution system now.

This was Epic money for early access / alpha test. So far the game doesn't immerse me at all, and I have very little hope of that changing for the steam release.
Hopefully the true release will still be a game worth playing, but I expect it will forever remain a massive missed opportunity.

 

[ArchAngel]

I think the next patch will be very good version of the game and unless they also introduce some nasty bugs with it, it will be a good time for people that have waited to finally jump in.

Especially those that like to play on hardest challenge might find the game worth playing.