KickStarter Phoenix Point - the new game from X-COM creator Julian Gollop

[Irxy]

So, what's the state of the game right now? Tried to play in in winter, and my squaddies changed gender between 2 prologue missions, thus decided the game is too buggy.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

That's a feature.

 

[Mazisky]

That's a feature.

only if they swapped from male to female, otherwise it's a bug

 

[ArchAngel]

So, what's the state of the game right now? Tried to play in in winter, and my squaddies changed gender between 2 prologue missions, thus decided the game is too buggy.

It is good now.

 

[ArchAngel]

Try it guys and if you got any questions about how to play or quests ask me.

 

[randir14]

What's wrong with the graphics settings? If I select the Ultra preset I get 50 fps, but if I select Very High and then manually raise everything back to ultra, I get 120 fps.

 

[ArchAngel]

Don't know, I play on Medium on my potato PC

 

[Polanski]

I tried to play the New version/dlcs for around 5 hours yesterday, and while it definitely feels a lot better, it is still incredibly unfinished.

 

[Shog-goth]

I tried to play the New version/dlcs for around 5 hours yesterday, and while it definitely feels a lot better, it is still incredibly unfinished.

True, it feels a lot better compared to the incredible mess that was the alleged "1.0", but very far from being good (or mediocre, the best this "game" can eventually achieve).

 

[ArchAngel]

I tried to play the New version/dlcs for around 5 hours yesterday, and while it definitely feels a lot better, it is still incredibly unfinished.

What is exactly that was unfinished?

 

[Polanski]

The tutorial forces you to put your guys right in front the enemies and then lets the enemy hit you until your guy would have died, but is instead kept artificially alive for no explained reason. That does not seem like a good way to teach a system.

Also the tutorial mission aliens uses weapons that the aliens has not evolved yet. Again unexplained.

Then you are forced to take a mission, where you are not allowed to control the load-out, meaning that they have too little ammo for a horde of enemies and I was forced to lose most of my guys and restart without the tutorial.

Then, the first tech I researched told me that I was now able to view the mutation level meter for the world, which I was not and I believe that feature is no longer included.

This was just the first hour or two of gameplay.

 

[geno]

It's your fault for activate the tutorial tbh

 

[cpmartins]

The tutorial forces you to put your guys right in front the enemies and then lets the enemy hit you until your guy would have died, but is instead kept artificially alive for no explained reason. That does not seem like a good way to teach a system.

Also the tutorial mission aliens uses weapons that the aliens has not evolved yet. Again unexplained.

Then you are forced to take a mission, where you are not allowed to control the load-out, meaning that they have too little ammo for a horde of enemies and I was forced to lose most of my guys and restart without the tutorial.

Then, the first tech I researched told me that I was now able to view the mutation level meter for the world, which I was not and I believe that feature is no longer included.

This was just the first hour or two of gameplay.

Oh, had the same problem. Tutorial mission wants me to get the boxes with 5 shity guys and then throws 15 enemies at me at once. Brilliant game design.

 

[Alienman]

Tutorial missions are terrible in nuXcom as well, and it has the same problem as Phoenix Point - there is a lot of story points being presented in them. I remember with the expansion for nuXcom the game forces one of your guys to be captured. Really dislike how these tutorials are presented.

 

[ArchAngel]

The tutorial forces you to put your guys right in front the enemies and then lets the enemy hit you until your guy would have died, but is instead kept artificially alive for no explained reason. That does not seem like a good way to teach a system.

Also the tutorial mission aliens uses weapons that the aliens has not evolved yet. Again unexplained.

Then you are forced to take a mission, where you are not allowed to control the load-out, meaning that they have too little ammo for a horde of enemies and I was forced to lose most of my guys and restart without the tutorial.

Then, the first tech I researched told me that I was now able to view the mutation level meter for the world, which I was not and I believe that feature is no longer included.

This was just the first hour or two of gameplay.

I see nothing bad here. And they want you to get hit so they teach you how to heal. But realistically if you ever played any Xcom like game in your place I would not admit I played a tutorial of any other Xcom like game..

 

[cpmartins]

Shit son I paid for this shit, might as well get the full experience. But I'll skip it now that I know it's trash.

 

[Irxy]

The tutorial forces you to put your guys right in front the enemies and then lets the enemy hit you until your guy would have died, but is instead kept artificially alive for no explained reason. That does not seem like a good way to teach a system.

Also the tutorial mission aliens uses weapons that the aliens has not evolved yet. Again unexplained.

Then you are forced to take a mission, where you are not allowed to control the load-out, meaning that they have too little ammo for a horde of enemies and I was forced to lose most of my guys and restart without the tutorial.

Then, the first tech I researched told me that I was now able to view the mutation level meter for the world, which I was not and I believe that feature is no longer included.

This was just the first hour or two of gameplay.

I see nothing bad here. And they want you to get hit so they teach you how to heal. But realistically if you ever played any Xcom like game in your place I would not admit I played a tutorial of any other Xcom like game..

It shows how terribly unpolished the game is. If you get so many wtfs during the tutorial, expecting the actual game to be any better would be weird.

 

[thesheeep]

The tutorial forces you to put your guys right in front the enemies and then lets the enemy hit you until your guy would have died, but is instead kept artificially alive for no explained reason. That does not seem like a good way to teach a system.

Also the tutorial mission aliens uses weapons that the aliens has not evolved yet. Again unexplained.

Then you are forced to take a mission, where you are not allowed to control the load-out, meaning that they have too little ammo for a horde of enemies and I was forced to lose most of my guys and restart without the tutorial.

I see nothing bad here. And they want you to get hit so they teach you how to heal. But realistically if you ever played any Xcom like game in your place I would not admit I played a tutorial of any other Xcom like game..

It shows how terribly unpolished the game is. If you get so many wtfs during the tutorial, expecting the actual game to be any better would be weird.

Tutorials are often just so badly done in games.

And I just don't get it.
Tutorials are among the most important parts of a game - way more important than final bosses (since way less people will ever actually see those).
A game's first impression is quite possibly the most important impression.

What I get is that you have to cheat a little in tutorials in this kind of game to get certain points across.
But this can be done so much better.
instead of forcing players to send units to specified positions, build a level so that they only can be sent along a certain path.
To show how healing is done, let the first few enemies shoot with a certain number of guaranteed hits, damage, etc.

Now, if this was early access, and not fully released (at least I see no EA sticker or such on EGS) with full price and DLCs already out to be purchased.

They might fix and improve it eventually, of course, but by now I don't even think it will be finished by the time it is released on Steam.

 

[ArchAngel]

The tutorial forces you to put your guys right in front the enemies and then lets the enemy hit you until your guy would have died, but is instead kept artificially alive for no explained reason. That does not seem like a good way to teach a system.

Also the tutorial mission aliens uses weapons that the aliens has not evolved yet. Again unexplained.

Then you are forced to take a mission, where you are not allowed to control the load-out, meaning that they have too little ammo for a horde of enemies and I was forced to lose most of my guys and restart without the tutorial.

Then, the first tech I researched told me that I was now able to view the mutation level meter for the world, which I was not and I believe that feature is no longer included.

This was just the first hour or two of gameplay.

I see nothing bad here. And they want you to get hit so they teach you how to heal. But realistically if you ever played any Xcom like game in your place I would not admit I played a tutorial of any other Xcom like game..

It shows how terribly unpolished the game is. If you get so many wtfs during the tutorial, expecting the actual game to be any better would be weird.

You might have different expectations.
I will agree that tutorial is kind of strange but the rest of the game is much better.

 

[lightbane]

It shows how terribly unpolished the game is. If you get so many wtfs during the tutorial, expecting the actual game to be any better would be weird.

So far it seems that PP is a Chink copy of Nu-Xcom, with all that entails.

 

[ArchAngel]

It shows how terribly unpolished the game is. If you get so many wtfs during the tutorial, expecting the actual game to be any better would be weird.

So far it seems that PP is a Chink copy of Nu-Xcom, with all that entails.

Nah, it is like what Pathfinder Kingmaker is compared to Dragon Age Origins.

 

[Brinko]

Did this piece of shit ever add those behemoths that you would land on to drill neurotoxin into? I remember that from the fig campaign but with how much of a train wreck Gollop has produced I stopped following the updates of this shit after January.

 

[prengle]

fuck JULIAN GOLLOP all my niggas hate JULIAN GOLLOP.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

The tutorial forces you to put your guys right in front the enemies and then lets the enemy hit you until your guy would have died, but is instead kept artificially alive for no explained reason. That does not seem like a good way to teach a system.

Also the tutorial mission aliens uses weapons that the aliens has not evolved yet. Again unexplained.

Then you are forced to take a mission, where you are not allowed to control the load-out, meaning that they have too little ammo for a horde of enemies and I was forced to lose most of my guys and restart without the tutorial.

Then, the first tech I researched told me that I was now able to view the mutation level meter for the world, which I was not and I believe that feature is no longer included.

This was just the first hour or two of gameplay.

Oh, had the same problem. Tutorial mission wants me to get the boxes with 5 shity guys and then throws 15 enemies at me at once. Brilliant game design.

You're not supposed to grab all the boxes, you're supposed to grab as many as possible and flee. The game explicitly tells you this.

 

[Daedalos]

Is this GUD, yet? Should I BUY?