Poll: Do you like the new section called The Drama Zone?

[Crispy]

What do you think? Do you like it or not?

 

[Raghar]

Considering criticism of KCD2 is in that forum, and the forum is invisible for normal viewers... I don't like that idea.

Gaming Drama was small subforum of general gaming forum, and it was small hidden without unnecessary exposure. "Aggregation Settings" is functional thus I think it was unnecessary change.

 

[Fedora Master]

It's completely missing the point.

 

[Chudolfler]

I wouldn't really know because I can't see it. So I guess No, I can't stand it!

 

[Hoodoo]

Cringe move by cringe mods

 

[KörangarTheMighty]

Voted no. I don't think that information pertaining to the content of games should be split from all the other discussion of those said games. In a thread about a game I see no problem with multiple facets of the game being discussed by different people/groups of people simultaneously. If there's a market for non-culture war discussion it will emerge organically and be maintained naturally by the participants. If not, then there's no real market for it. Splitting threads just leads to needless confusion and has the potential to mislead people in any number of ways.

And just to head this off at the pass before someone retorts with it - I don't care if people are driven off by cultural discussions. They need to grow a thicker skin and argue for what's supposedly good despite the vocal opposition and potential embarrassment. If they lack the conviction, it's likely their takes were shit anyway.

 

[Odoryuk]

I suppose only autistic users can access it?

 

[Habichtswalder]

I actually prefer that the Drama Zone is now its own section instead of a sub-forum hidden in General Gaming.

But it should be available to everyone. It's probably weird for new users (without access) to constantly see posts or entire threads moved to a section that is invisible to them. It will seem to them like it was deleted.

 

[Haba]

It is absolutely retarded.

 

[Yuggoth]

It sucks, as I'm still not autistic enough to access it.

 

[Jenkem]

 

[Vic]

It sucks, as I'm still not autistic enough to access it.

Is this your first account?

A) No
B) No
C) Fuck you Vic, you made me nuke my last account and now you're back at it again with your shit.

 

[Lucumo]

Now I need to scroll more, so that's a "no".

 

[445k]

It sucks since I can't see it.

 

[The people of Duckburg]

It's the exact same shit as everywhere else on the net today. Devs shove their utterly retarded politics into their games. People react to it. The mods start screeching about not wanting politics or drama and try to censor it. But it's always, ALWAYS, the people reacting to what the devs put in the game or in some cases vomited up on social media, that get silenced. Never will you admit that it's the devs themselves that are entirely at fault for filling their games with propaganda. Look at, say, the Mystic Land thread. Is it "derailed" by a bunch of politics posting? No, because the dev hasn't shoehorned in blatant propaganda or acted like a dumbfuck on social media (yet(to my knowledge)). When people start yelling about politics, it's almost always because the devs threw the first stone.

Stop trying to discredit people's dislike for that by labelling it as "just drama" or "unrelated politics". It's dishonest and manipulative. It's the same thing that essentially all other sites do today. And it's always in favor of one political side. When it's something like the drama about that Harry Potter game, the drama will be seemingly everywhere. But once you flip the sides, discussion immediately gets banned and those that take part in it get mocked with something like "they just want to start more drama over nothing". It's the exact same shit as elsewhere; leftists pretending to be enlightened centrists and steering all discussion by using double standards. Go yell at the devs and their globalist funders/rulers to stop putting the shit in all media instead.

And yeah, hiding it away is still censorship, especially when coupled with the ever present condescending tone of "it's just drama".

 

[DJOGamer PT]

The slipt is fine, but if it's meant to be like GD (only accessible to older members) then its stupid for it to be visible but inaccessible to the public user and newfags
Either go all in "hidding" it like it's done for GD, or make it fully public like the other gaming forums

 

[Odoryuk]

The slipt is fine, but if it's meant to be like GD (only accessible to older members) then its stupid for it to be visible but inaccessible to the public user and newfags
Either go all in "hidding" it like it's done for GD, or make it fully public like the other gaming forums

I always kinda assumed that when the things get ugly and schizoposters start typing shit that could get the forum owners in jail, it's all moving to GD (General Discussions, I assume), why creating something new for this?

 

[Tarkleigh]

What problem does the new section solve? I am quite confused on what the upside is compared to the old "Gaming Drama" subforum

 

[DJOGamer PT]

The slipt is fine, but if it's meant to be like GD (only accessible to older members) then its stupid for it to be visible but inaccessible to the public user and newfags
Either go all in "hidding" it like it's done for GD, or make it fully public like the other gaming forums

I always kinda assumed that when the things get ugly and schizoposters start typing shit that could get the forum owners in jail, it's all moving to GD (General Discussions, I assume), why creating something new for this?

Compartmentalization
GD is not one big mosh-pit of a forum, but a series of sub-forums each categorised by their specific topics
It's simply neat organization imo
"Gaming Drama" threads are specific and boast heavy traffic, so why not have it's own space?

 

[Fedora Master]

Something that most other forums do, except the Codex (Infinitron), is MAKE A POST TELLING PEOPLE TO COOL IT WITH THE ANTI-NIGGER REMARKS before ripping the thread apart or banning people.

 

[Jonathan "Zee Nekomimi]

fag gay move just like crispy, but i'm not really surprised on that aspect.

 

[Atlantico]

This place is not a democracy is it? No.

So this poll is... not going to be taken seriously. Mods being bored and disappointed that people didn't even notice the irrelevant new category they made.

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

Of course I don't like it for a number of reasons.

1.) It's busy work for busy bodies. It relies on moderators to find things they think are just a little too extreme for the general masses and then prune threads accordingly. Guess what. That's going to be a big job now and it's probably going to get even bigger until the game industry self destructs.

2.) You can't do this impartially. Define "drama" without saying, "I know it when I see it." Also, let's just say that you come up with a concrete, unbiased set of criteria for yourself now on what is and isn't drama. Eventually there will be more of it and you may or may not be busier than you are now down the road. At some point, you're going to toss that criteria for your own personal priorities.

3.) It pisses people off. Let's just ignore how irritating it is to have threads change size and post counts in those threads change on a daily basis, which is annoying. Even people in favor of it now are going to run in to posts suddenly disappearing because they got moved to another forum. No one is going to experience that a few times and think, "Man, it's great that what I was reading is now elsewhere."

But the biggest reason is...

4.) No one here put politics in video games. People aren't posting here to vote on politics making it's way in to these games. It's a reaction to it. The reason it's a negative reaction is because no one wants this shit other than the fund managers and the faggots HR managers hired in these companies. Oh, and apparently the Department of Homeland Security in the United States and various other government agencies around Europe. It's going to keep happening. Hiding it isn't going to make things better, either.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

In a thread about a game I see no problem with multiple facets of the game being discussed by different people/groups of people simultaneously. If there's a market for non-culture war discussion it will emerge organically and be maintained naturally by the participants. If not, then there's no real market for it.

Except in this context, there's no "multiple facets" being discussed
It's just the one facet that's so obsessively discussed that it drowns out all other discussion attempts
This split ensures both camps of posters can have their preferred discussion

Splitting threads just leads to needless confusion and has the potential to mislead people in any number of ways.

What's so confusing here?
You want to discuss mechanics, quests and plot structure? Go to "Gaming Discussion"
Want to discuss associated social media shitstorms and the game's cringe and even possible subversive elements? Go to "Gaming Drama"

They need to grow a thicker skin and argue for what's supposedly good despite the vocal opposition and potential embarrassment.

Only a fool wastes his time arguing against a wall
And on these matters the vast majority of posters are already dead set on a specific postion and no amount of great quality effort posting is going to change that

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

It's the exact same shit as everywhere else on the net today. Devs shove their utterly retarded politics into their games. People react to it. The mods start screeching about not wanting politics or drama and try to censor it.

They're entirely disingenuous about it also. They'll claim it's all about "representation", yet how many of these games offer a left handed option? There's far more left handed people out there than queers. It's probably a lot easier to do a model mirror in a game than it is to script all the gay stuff, particularly with new animations, yet you'll see queer stuff before you'll see that.

Look at, say, the Mystic Land thread. Is it "derailed" by a bunch of politics posting? No, because the dev hasn't shoehorned in blatant propaganda or acted like a dumbfuck on social media (yet(to my knowledge)). When people start yelling about politics, it's almost always because the devs threw the first stone.

This is 100% the case. Look at KCD2. The first one was received pretty well because there wasn't a lot of political nonsense in it. The only complaining about that game were from places like Kotaku that claimed the medieval European setting game didn't have a bunch of black people and queers. The people they were complaining to probably aren't going to buy the game anyway. It happens in a lot of media these days, from table top gaming to comics to movies and now video games. They add in this queer shit and diversity, and then their sales tank. Why? The people they're catering to don't buy this stuff.

It's the same thing that essentially all other sites do today. And it's always in favor of one political side.

I would argue that this site is overly moderated now, and that's the reason why they also feel the need to split the forum. Would this be a problem if there wasn't a push to keep everything about one game in a singular thread? Could you make the argument that a thread is being derailed if you had a handful of threads about a particular game? Or a dozen threads about one game? What exactly was wrong with allowing a dozen threads about one game in the first place?