Rome Total War II

[Trash]

Don't use the usual tw forums as a guideline on how things stand. By now you got people either blindly bashing or defending the game and it's drowning out the modicum of sensible sounds. The latest patches have made it perfectly clear that the game was shipped wholly unfinished and have made large improvements. The game however still is far from being finished and as such I cannot recommend anyone to play it. Huge bugs like the AI being still unable to use rams and massive balance issues really need to be fixed before the game comes into its own right. Let's just hope they'll keep committing the obvious big resources they've put into patching this one for considerable time longer and it might even become something.

 

[Raghar]

Fuck. I can't turn off battle realism. And all these 40 enemy units are massacring my armies.

Battle realism is on by default on higher difficulty levels. You are stuck with it unless you change difficulty.

No I tried it. When you activate battle realism, you can't deactivate it.
The trouble is said battle realism isn't realistic, it just restricts position of camera, and prevents issue orders during pause.

 

[Trash]

If you want 'battle realism' try out one of the Scourge of War games. Civil War games each focusing on one battle or campaign that have lines of sight, couriers ferrying orders, AI personalities, ammo count, all sorts of weapon stats, morale and all sorts of other goodness. Intercept an enemy courier and you both learn what the AI has in mind for a unit and the order won't come through. Pretty awesome stuff.

 

[Raghar]

I fucking hate ACW games.

 

[Sranchammer]

I fucking hate ACW games.

I hate you.

 

[Disgruntled]

So is the game playable yet? At least with a couple of mods complimenting the patch updates?

Ive given up on a 'fixed' R2. Thats never going to happen.

 

[KoolNoodles]

So is the game playable yet? At least with a couple of mods complimenting the patch updates?

Ive given up on a 'fixed' R2. Thats never going to happen.

Playable? Yes. Enjoyable however, is another matter.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Latest patch at least made campaign AI a lot better. Enemies now build higher tier soldier buildings and tran them, they are also more agressive and can stab us in the back.
A small step but in right direction.

 

[Psquit]

Shogun 2 worth playing? or the game is broken with poor ai?.

 

[Jugashvili]

Shogun 2 worth playing? or the game is broken with poor ai?.

It's actually a decent, enjoyable game. No gamebreaking bugs, average optimization, the AI is nothing fancy but it gets the job done. The mood, flair and overall design are very good, though the historical accuracy, as always, is iffy. Some scenes look like something out of one of Kurosawa's samurai flicks, and Realm Divide provides some artificial but welcome late-game challenge.

 

[Average Manatee]

Shogun 2 worth playing? or the game is broken with poor ai?.

It's cool. A bit lacking in variety, but what are you going to do? Shoehorn flaming pig units into the game?

 

[Corporate_Jew_Master]

Shogun 2 worth playing? or the game is broken with poor ai?.

If you don't mind playing the same faction in different colors and starting positions all the time, go for it. AI is nothing great but it's more aggressive than the rome 2 one at least. (or the prepatch one at any rate, haven't touched the game in a month)

 

[Raghar]

Shogun 2 worth playing? or the game is broken with poor ai?.

It's cool. A bit lacking in variety, but what are you going to do? Shoehorn flaming pig units into the game?

There is a slot prepared for flaming pigs. Look into data files. As companies in HW are saying, "it's ready, but not shipped with."

 

[Space Satan]

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
Total War: ROME II
Current Players 9,205

Peak Today - 28,935
Sid Meier's Civilization V
Current Players 26,155
Peak Today - 52,804

Well, that's just embarassing.

 

[DeepOcean]

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
Total War: ROME II
Current Players 9,205

Peak Today - 28,935
Sid Meier's Civilization V
Current Players 26,155
Peak Today - 52,804

Well, that's just embarassing.

Didn't Civ V got a 50% discount, an expansion released recently and a 33% discount on the expansion? While it is possible that more people play Civ V than Rome II, I think that there are alot of new players because of the discounts.

 

[Raghar]

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
Total War: ROME II
Current Players 9,205

Peak Today - 28,935
Sid Meier's Civilization V
Current Players 26,155
Peak Today - 52,804

Well, that's just embarassing.

Why? Civ fans are hardcore fans. If they released Civ with ASCI graphics, they would still spend more on playing Civ than playing Rome 2.

 

[Trash]

Do hope the apparantly imminent patch 5 will finally make some work of fixing the siege AI. Game is perfectly playable right now apart from it going utterly insane the moment a siege begins.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
Total War: ROME II
Current Players 9,205

Peak Today - 28,935
Sid Meier's Civilization V
Current Players 26,155
Peak Today - 52,804

Well, that's just embarassing.

What a shocker ,shit games are popular with the masses.Stop the presses!!We have breaking news!!!

it's more of an indicator that Rome is even more crappy than low-quality CivV

Yeah that is "clear" indicator.I bet then AirLand battle is even more crappy than both.

 

[Space Satan]

it's more of an indicator that Rome is even more crappy than low-quality CivV

 

[J_C]

Don't want to link fucking Kotaku, but they "updated" their review after a month for Rome 2. First they said that it doesn't worth playing yet, now it is a big green YES verdict!. Good to see those Sega money is still in work. Too bad other games don't get the same treatment if they get updated.

 

[Declinator]

Don't want to link fucking Kotaku, but they "updated" their review after a month for Rome 2. First they said that it doesn't worth playing yet, now it is a big green YES verdict!. Good to see those Sega money is still in work. Too bad other games don't get the same treatment if they get updated.

Not the greatest Total War game of recent times, but that's a relative statement.

On the "better" side of things, though, is the AI. At least in campaigns. In battles it's still terrible, but on the main map I noticed a much smarter ability to do necessary things like carry out naval battles, form alliances in war and even respond to your troop deployments and movements.

What we're left with after all this, then, is a game that's the weakest Total War since the equally-misguided Napoleon.

Yes, this update to the review sounds so obviously paid for that I'm just disgusted...

I'm no Kotaku fan but let us not go all Deus Ex.
(and make no mistake, the parts I quoted are from the updated part of the review)

 

[Trash]

Anyone ever tried XAI for Medieval II: Kingdoms? It's supposed to be this great AI overhaul but I'm kinda wary. Way too much shit claims the same. Still, this one looks like it might the real deal....

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?637-XAI-The-game-core-renovation-project

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?327395-XAI-4-0-released!

 

[J_C]

Don't want to link fucking Kotaku, but they "updated" their review after a month for Rome 2. First they said that it doesn't worth playing yet, now it is a big green YES verdict!. Good to see those Sega money is still in work. Too bad other games don't get the same treatment if they get updated.

Not the greatest Total War game of recent times, but that's a relative statement.

On the "better" side of things, though, is the AI. At least in campaigns. In battles it's still terrible, but on the main map I noticed a much smarter ability to do necessary things like carry out naval battles, form alliances in war and even respond to your troop deployments and movements.

What we're left with after all this, then, is a game that's the weakest Total War since the equally-misguided Napoleon.

Yes, this update to the review sounds so obviously paid for that I'm just disgusted...

I'm no Kotaku fan but let us not go all Deus Ex.
(and make no mistake, the parts I quoted are from the updated part of the review)

The fact that they changed the review, when there are other games which would equally deserve updated reviews after the patches says all.

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
Total War: ROME II
Current Players 9,205

Peak Today - 28,935
Sid Meier's Civilization V
Current Players 26,155
Peak Today - 52,804

Well, that's just embarassing.

What a shocker ,shit games are popular with the masses.Stop the presses!!We have breaking news!!!

it's more of an indicator that Rome is even more crappy than low-quality CivV

Yeah that is "clear" indicator.I bet then AirLand battle is even more crappy than both.

Updated CivV with expansions is leagues better than Rome 2. It is a fact. And Airland Battle is actually better than Rome 2.

 

[Trash]

Pretty much everything is better than Rome 2. It may one day turn out to be a good game but as it is now it's an unfinished mess.

 

[Declinator]

Don't want to link fucking Kotaku, but they "updated" their review after a month for Rome 2. First they said that it doesn't worth playing yet, now it is a big green YES verdict!. Good to see those Sega money is still in work. Too bad other games don't get the same treatment if they get updated.

Not the greatest Total War game of recent times, but that's a relative statement.

On the "better" side of things, though, is the AI. At least in campaigns. In battles it's still terrible, but on the main map I noticed a much smarter ability to do necessary things like carry out naval battles, form alliances in war and even respond to your troop deployments and movements.

What we're left with after all this, then, is a game that's the weakest Total War since the equally-misguided Napoleon.

Yes, this update to the review sounds so obviously paid for that I'm just disgusted...

I'm no Kotaku fan but let us not go all Deus Ex.
(and make no mistake, the parts I quoted are from the updated part of the review)

The fact that they changed the review, when there are other games which would equally deserve updated reviews after the patches says all.

Have you considered that this particular Kotaku reporter may actually be more interested in Rome 2 than, say, New Vegas (or some other game that used to be buggy that you think deserves a second chance (and New Vegas may or may not be one of those.)

It is a much more simple explanation than SEGA paying them to do it (especially when it was such a lukewarm update.) Why would they pay them now anyway since it's already been a while since it was released and the impact this update will have approaches zero. If they were going to pay them off they should have done it eariler.

Updated CivV with expansions is leagues better than Rome 2. It is a fact. And Airland Battle is actually better than Rome 2.

Rome 2 may be worse than Rome 1 or Civ IV but it would still have a fighting chance or better with Civ V.
A fact my ass. What you said is no fact and what I said should not be taken as fact either.