Rome Total War II

[BlackAdderBG]

Updated CivV with expansions is leagues better than Rome 2. It is a fact. And Airland Battle is actually better than Rome 2.

Impossible!!! AirLand is not even in the top 100 most played game on Steam!!! It's clearly shittier that Civ V LOL

Updated CivV is like updated Dragon Age II.

 

[J_C]

Updated CivV is like updated Dragon Age II.

Now that was just mean. This kind of comparison just too much. Nothing can be that shitty to be like DAII.

Don't want to link fucking Kotaku, but they "updated" their review after a month for Rome 2. First they said that it doesn't worth playing yet, now it is a big green YES verdict!. Good to see those Sega money is still in work. Too bad other games don't get the same treatment if they get updated.

Not the greatest Total War game of recent times, but that's a relative statement.

On the "better" side of things, though, is the AI. At least in campaigns. In battles it's still terrible, but on the main map I noticed a much smarter ability to do necessary things like carry out naval battles, form alliances in war and even respond to your troop deployments and movements.

What we're left with after all this, then, is a game that's the weakest Total War since the equally-misguided Napoleon.

Yes, this update to the review sounds so obviously paid for that I'm just disgusted...

I'm no Kotaku fan but let us not go all Deus Ex.
(and make no mistake, the parts I quoted are from the updated part of the review)

The fact that they changed the review, when there are other games which would equally deserve updated reviews after the patches says all.

Have you considered that this particular Kotaku reporter may actually be more interested in Rome 2 than, say, New Vegas (or some other game that used to be buggy that you think deserves a second chance (and New Vegas may or may not be one of those.)

It is a much more simple explanation than SEGA paying them to do it (especially when it was such a lukewarm update.) Why would they pay them now anyway since it's already been a while since it was released and the impact this update will have approaches zero. If they were going to pay them off they should have done it eariler.

Updated CivV with expansions is leagues better than Rome 2. It is a fact. And Airland Battle is actually better than Rome 2.

Rome 2 may be worse than Rome 1 or Civ IV but it would still have a fighting chance or better with Civ V.
A fact my ass. What you said is no fact and what I said should not be taken as fact either.

You still have much to learn on the Codex if you take every word seriously.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

Anyone ever tried XAI for Medieval II: Kingdoms? It's supposed to be this great AI overhaul but I'm kinda wary. Way too much shit claims the same. Still, this one looks like it might the real deal....

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?637-XAI-The-game-core-renovation-project

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?327395-XAI-4-0-released!

Isn't that the mod that is in every other mod? Pretty sure if you have one of the big mods they use XAI battle mod in it.

 

[Brinko]

Someone mocked up a new UI

 

[Malakal]

Mocked? Not modded? Fuck me then.

 

[KoolNoodles]

There have been plenty of "mock" UI's that have shown what could have been. Won't ever be modded in or changed though. Not like half the shown features work anyways, so who gives a shit. What a terrible game. Thanks everyone for buying though, they will get it right with MTW3?

 

[Bradylama]

There won't be a MTW3.

For that matter why hasn't there ever been a China Total War? It's not like unit variety is an issue seeing what they did with Shogun 2.

 

[Grinolf]

For that matter why hasn't there ever been a China Total War? It's not like unit variety is an issue seeing what they did with Shogun 2.

Why someone would neen China Total War, when there are Romance of Three Kindoms games?

 

[Jugashvili]

A RoTK Total War sounds like a good idea until you consider that CA's AI is so stupid that it would make Ah-Dou look like a brilliant strategist in comparison.

Aren't Western game imports banned on the Mainland anyways? One would assume the main market for such a game would be China, but I don't think it would be marketable there. They'd probably make a killing in Japan, South Korea and Taiwan though.

 

[Agesilaus]

For that matter why hasn't there ever been a China Total War? It's not like unit variety is an issue seeing what they did with Shogun 2.

Why someone would neen China Total War, when there are Romance of Three Kindoms games?

So that we can actually play during the Spring Autumn and Warring States periods. Pre-Qin China is where it's at, the whole three kingdoms period is over played and was never particularly interesting to begin with. If we have to go down to Han, then history ended with Wang Mang. Let's cut out this popamole, three kingdom romance fiction novel bullshit. You can play paddy-cake with liu bei or whatever 3rd Century AD joker you like, but it's figures like ShangYang, LiSi, HanFei, XunQing, LiuBang, XiangYu, that get business done.

 

[Raghar]

There are suspicious number of posters that have clue about Chinese history. Is it related to the unified picture on the left?

Also why is Horikita Maki everywhere?

 

[Grinolf]

So that we can actually play during the Spring Autumn and Warring States periods. Pre-Qin China is where it's at, the whole three kingdoms period is over played and was never particularly interesting to begin with. If we have to go down to Han, then history ended with Wang Mang. Let's cut out this popamole, three kingdom romance fiction novel bullshit. You can play paddy-cake with liu bei or whatever 3rd Century AD joker you like, but it's figures like ShangYang, LiSi, HanFei, XunQing, LiuBang, XiangYu, that get business done.

But Total War franchise wasn't about exploring less popular perionds of history before. So if CA ever decide to make China Total War, I am pretty sure that it would be about Three Kindoms.

 

[Morgoth]

Expect Empire II, and expect it to be shit.

 

[Malakal]

Why would anyone make a game set in China, who will buy it, chinese? There is no market for that. At least Japan has weaboo legions of masterwork katana wielders. My bet is either on another Medieval - this shit is really popular after all - or a more modern game, perhaps even set in the American civil war. Yes, that boring old conflict no one cares about but since americans cream themselves just thinking about it there is a huge market.

 

[Kattze]

I think medieval India total war would be very great. Muslims would be specialising in cavalry and horse archery, with the Hindus more focused on elephants and infantry.

Dawn of Islam scenario (around 1000s or 1100s) :Just take Ghorids, Ghaznavids, Sindh and various Rajput kingdoms in the North (just like in broken crescent) and various Hindu kingdoms in the south like Cholas + Sri Lanka and some parts of Sumatra etc.

Decline of Delhi (around 1400s): Delhi Sultanate and various breakaway provinces (ie. Bengal) + remaining Rajput kingdoms in the North and Bahmani successor states in Deccan vs Vijayanagar

Collapse of the Mughals (around 1700s): Rump Mughals in Delhi, Afghans, Sikhs and breakaway Nawabs in the North, Marathas in the South. Option of trying to parley with foreign European powers such as UK, France, Netherlands to gain military equipment etc.

 

[Tigranes]

My dream game was a Warring State or ROTK TW game, but (1) they will never do it because they'd rather do the same setting over and over, (2) at this point, CA being what it is, I'm sort of glad.

 

[Kattze]

It would also be great if they revisit the Americas campaign in the kingdoms expansion for m2tw. They should not go the lazy route of giving aztecs, tlaxcalans and tarascans the same fucking units. Also, more tribes in north america and not just the fucking apaches.

 

[oldmanpaco]

I'm to lazy to read this thread and its been 6 weeks since I played the game. Is it fixed yet?

 

[Spectacle]

Why would anyone make a game set in China, who will buy it, chinese? There is no market for that. At least Japan has weaboo legions of masterwork katana wielders. My bet is either on another Medieval - this shit is really popular after all - or a more modern game, perhaps even set in the American civil war. Yes, that boring old conflict no one cares about but since americans cream themselves just thinking about it there is a huge market.

I'm actually surprised they didn't do an American Civil War expansion to Empire. The ACW isn't really a suitable setting for a full TW game since there's only two factions (unless you go full alt history with foreign interventions etc.), but it would be a perfect setting for a focused scenario DLC.

 

[7/10]

LOL. Codex believes that CA won't make a third game, just because CA said so. These jokers don't even have control over whether or not to release a game in an alpha state. They'll make whatever Sega tells them to.

 

[rashiakas]

more like 0/10.

 

[praetor]

LOL. Codex believes that CA won't make a third game, just because CA said so. These jokers don't even have control over whether or not to release a game in an alpha state. They'll make whatever Sega tells them to.

i really want to believe that Sega is the "evil publishers" and that CA are the good guys, but based on interviews etc, i'd say CA has some of the biggest dumbfucks in the industry.

 

[Raghar]

Dumbfucks^2 (CA) + dumbfucks(SONY) = 2^dumbfucks

 

[Brinko]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...Gain-Experience-Barbarian-Ancillary-Spam-Fix)

Anyone tried this? Looks pretty interesting but knowing TWC modders it probably breaks the game to the point of not even playing.

 

[Merkwürdigliebe]

Warhammer Total war, it's happening!