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Codex Interview RPG Codex Interview: Chris Avellone on Pillars Cut Content, Game Development Hierarchies and More

Discussion in 'News & Content Feedback' started by Infinitron, Apr 30, 2018.

  1. Phanax Novice Patron

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    Or indeed, a restoration mod. *cough* *cough*
     
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  2. 2house2fly Erudite

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    I had been under the impression he wasn't involved in God Of War 2, which I liked a lot more, and thought "good riddance" but then I looked it up recently and turns out he was involved after all. So, good not riddance
     
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  3. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    MCA Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2
    Man, reading about the NDA/non-compete screwjob makes my blood boil. Even trying that sort of thing should be illegal. Reminds me of why my grandfather used to say that one of the two things communists got right was hanging all the lawyers.

    Chris Avellone related to your wonderful Tony Jay anecdote, and the well-known saga of Ron Perlman's quest for your blood, when South Park was being worked on did Matt and Trey ever drop by Obsidian?

    Human sacrifice! Mass hysteria!

    It gives a man hope against hope for Freedom Force 3.
     
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  4. grotsnik Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Only at the Codex do you feel like you’re following a Mad Max chase sequence when you’re reading a 50-page thread. Batshit and extraordinary.

    Honestly really glad to hear you’re happier now, Chris - looking forward to seeing what comes next.
     
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  5. Bohrain Savant Patron

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    Chris, in terms of narrative presentation what kind of features a game should have to get the most of it in your opinion?
    By this I mean stuff like is first or third person exploration inherently better compared to isometric view in terms of playing around with environmental storytelling? And do voice acting and cutscenes accomplish enough given how much resources they take?
     
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  6. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer

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    Of all the things Chris said in this thread, this hit me the hardest. That is pretty damning shit. Lucky for me, I won't have time to play Pillars 2 for a while, so I can follow your advice and play it after a few DLCs.
     
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  7. Mebrilia Arbiter

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    Chris what is your favourite character on Planescape Torment?
     
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  8. Chris Avellone Arcane Developer

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    Again, not trying to be a dick, but it is for the best.

    We found with PoE1 that the patches, later updates, and expansions fixed a lot of problems people had with the initial release.

    If the story also comes back as a plus (which shouldn't be affected by this), am happy to give it a shot.
     
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  9. VentilatorOfDoom RPG Codex Staff

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    Can only be Dak'kon.
     
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  10. Phanax Novice Patron

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    Have you had those shots you promised to do with Infinitron yet?
     
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  11. Kem0sabe Arcane

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    Chris Avellone thanks for the honest opinion.

    During your time there (at Obsidian) do you feel that the trend of releasing unfinished games was endorsed internally with a "release now and patch later" approach to development or was it simply down to circumstances of working with tight publisher and budgetary deadlines? I ask this because the "buggy obsidian classic" has become an accepted part of gaming culture and obsidian seems to have a track record to back that meme up.
     
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  12. Chris Avellone Arcane Developer

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    I liked them all, but after working with Beamdog on potential sequels, I did find myself gravitating toward Xachariah again and again.

    Fall-From-Grace is always an easy win, however. She's the nicest, kindest succubus in the multiverse.
     
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  13. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Hah! We picked up some hints about that, as you may have noticed: http://www.rpgcodex.net/article.php?id=10784

    Care to tell us more this project?
     
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  14. conan_edw Savant Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    So, can we get that answer :desu:
     
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  15. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Kingmaker
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  16. Chris Avellone Arcane Developer

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    No, I just owe him an apology, which I will likely do through cartoons to solidify how serious my apology is (seriously).

    He has a very difficult task on the site to post updates, and it can't be an easy thing to juggle in his off-time hours.

    Ininitron, if you're reading this, I owe you an apology - my previous comments were only teasing, and I recognize it's hard to be focused on RPG news 24/7 if you have, well... an actual job... that should be taken into account and respected. :: Respectful bow ::
     
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  17. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    So, uh, what are you drinking?
     
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  18. Chris Avellone Arcane Developer

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  19. Mebrilia Arbiter

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    Wait uh? Potential sequels? Did i read it right? *passes out*
     
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  20. Phanax Novice Patron

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    OK, very serious question here. Are you actually at all worried about any blowback from being so candid about a former employer? The game industry might be large, but it can also be damn small at the same time.
     
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  21. VentilatorOfDoom RPG Codex Staff

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    Nonsense, Infinitron posts Codex news during his working hours, so yes, the Israeli Defense Forces are directly financing the RPG Codex news service.
     
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  22. Phanax Novice Patron

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    Fuck off dipshit I've given Infinitron his booze money already I can post whatever the fuck I like.
     
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  23. Mebrilia Arbiter

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    It is well know Codex can cause corruption over time... I been polite and kind at first too... Then i started to be edgy not even realizing that.
     
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  24. Chris Avellone Arcane Developer

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    No, but good question.

    Aside from making up what Obsidian chose to never pay me, I set aside a legal fund to deal with any repercussions, and I will fight anything they bring to the table, tooth and nail. I welcome it.

    If confronted with evil (as categorized by existing employees who will soon resign - check back in a week or two for the latest round, even though one of them dropped yesterday), I will be prepared to fight it. I guarantee I have more in my bank account than Obsidian does, since they rarely think more than 2 months in advance - and unfortunately, their very, very expensive lawyer charges by the hour, which is unfortunate, but he knows, remora-like, what to attach himself to to get the most financial gain.

    But it's all okay - Paradox has already been in touch, and they aren't too happy with how Obsidian handled the work they asked for. Future revelations will likely be much more fun than mine.
     
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  25. taxalot I'm a spicy fellow. Patron

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    I finally am done reading this thread.

    Wow, that sure was both interesting, funny, and painful. I had to go through horrible conditions at work last year, and while it was hardly on the scale MCA experienced, I can sure sympathize.

    The thing to note here : everyone who has posted in this thread is telling the truth. This kind of stuff is far too serious to lie nonchalantly about. People can indeed have vast different outlooks based on friendships, positions, departments, and just... time. Things are always okay until they are not.

    But I have to admit, and god I certainly hope I am not being offensive in an way Chris Avellone , but reading this entire thing made me wonder about your current mental state at the moment.

    I understand you mean and felt everything you wrote, but everything that you have posted here could have far reaching consequences, even in the upcoming years. Nobody likes whistleblowers, not because they are telling the truth, but because they fear if they hire one circumstances might make an enemy out of them. Anyway, what I am trying to ask is : are you alright and fully aware of eventual personal difficulties that might result of these posts ? Sometimes emotions take over and however true and honest your word, one regrets phrasing it out loud later.
     
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