Codex Review RPG Codex Review: Battle Brothers

[Reinhardt]

e skellingtons are one trick ponies that are there to be bashed with just one or two banal shit boring methods (aka equip 12 flails/axes) and nothing else is to be done about them.

You don't need flails or axes. You can easily break their formation with baits and use of terrain.

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

Darth Roxor let's see the skill trees and stats of your end game Bros.

 

[TigerKnee]

Is Complaining about Skeletons the new Rage-quitting after being rekt by Cursed Hounds?

 

[Darth Roxor]

e skellingtons are one trick ponies that are there to be bashed with just one or two banal shit boring methods (aka equip 12 flails/axes) and nothing else is to be done about them.

You don't need flails or axes. You can easily break their formation with baits and use of terrain.

the terrain just begs to be used!

Darth Roxor let's see the skill trees and stats of your end game Bros.

ok here more or less

Spoiler

You can assume almost every shield guy is a clone of Chomikus, with only minor differences such as weapon mastery or the presence of taunt/nine lives.

2H axe guy. I don't even know why I bothered giving him steel brow.

Greatsword guy. Shield expert is a bit of a bummer but he started off as a shield guy and was later switched to greatsword.

Banner guy. Don't ask me why he has executioner because I don't know. Must have been a "ugh what throwaway perk to pick now" moment.

Archer. You can assume every other archer is also a carbon copy of this one.

 

[Reinhardt]

the terrain just begs to be used!

You don't need to stay at your starting position, if you didn't know.

Also it's fucking auxillaries. Like one of the easiest enemies in the game.

 

[Mortmal]

After reading the review i really dont want to spend money,its like nothing is fun and even the music is "good enough".. That will teach those three indies guys to not book advertisement on front page nor giving free trips and goodies!
This will be lesson for others, pay and you get a massage from prima junta 's delicate hands , dont and you are good for merciless roxorisation.

 

[Infinitron]

After reading the review i really dont want to spend money,its like nothing is fun and even the music is "good enough".. That will teach those three indies guys to not book advertisement on front page nor giving free trips and goodies!
This will be lesson for others, pay and you get a massage from prima junta 's delicate hands , dont and you are good for merciless roxorisation.

Haha - I don't think they'll mind if I post this:

Spoiler

 

[JarlFrank]

What you people are misunderstanding is that the skellingtons are not hard. They're cancerous because they are fucking boring.

I like the game but this much is true. Skellingtons are boring to deal with because they're so predictable. Just use crushing weapons and bash them till their health is gone, that's it.
Wiedergangers at least have the gimmick of rising up after you kill them.
All other enemy tyes (orcs, gobbos, humans) have more varied ways of attacking you (ranged weapons and shit) AND there are more varied ways to deal with them, too (wounding, get their morale down, etc).

Undead are the least interesting and most grindy enemy to deal with, especially the undead legions.

 

[Eyestabber]

ok here more or less

You can assume almost every shield guy is a clone of Chomikus, with only minor differences such as weapon mastery or the presence of taunt/nine lives.

Then I can assume you don't know WTF you're doing, since you can't differentiate between a pure tank/early game footman and a hybrid/late game footman. Not taking berserk/killing frenzy on ANY of your "shield guys" = you're bad. Also, headhunter is very viable IF you have some synergy with it. Here is an example:

No underdog and no rotation. This footman is VERY offense oriented. I made him so because he had Iron Lungs AND the +10% chance to hit the head from his background. See, unlike the bullshit you state in the review, BB actually DOES have a lot of variety in regards to builds. You simply couldn't be bothered to experiment. I'll be returning to this point once I finish my guide update on Steam.

2H axe guy. I don't even know why I bothered giving him steel brow.

Because you don't understand that Steel Brow's effectiveness reduces as you get better helmets and it's only really decent for ppl who can't use good helmets anyway? (eg. archers and duelists). You would know that if you had actually bothered to learn the game. Also, Fearsome with a weapon that is VERY likely to hit the 15 HP threshold without it anyway? Ok...

Greatsword guy. Shield expert is a bit of a bummer but he started off as a shield guy and was later switched to greatsword.

Choosing suboptimal perks when you're learning a game is normal and not at all reason to be ashamed. But claiming the game is badly designed because "I KEEP TRYING TO PICK THE LEAST USELESS PERK!!!" when you leave your 2H without Killing Frenzy and Recover is nothing short of

Banner guy. Don't ask me why he has executioner because I don't know. Must have been a "ugh what throwaway perk to pick now" moment.

This is Kotaku tier of idiocy and bad gameplay. So your sergeant has bad perks because "I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE SUCKS LESS CUZ I CAN'T INTO MATH!". Where the fuck is either Nimble or Battle Forged!? And WHY IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS NON-RETARDED WOULD YOU PICK HEADHUNTER ON A GUY THAT ONLY HAS 1 ATTACK PER TURN AND WHOSE DAMAGE IS AWFUL ANYWAY!?!? Jesus...there is just so much wrong here I'm not even gonna bother to comment perk by perk, I'm just gonna post a proper SGT and leave it at that:

Archer. You can assume every other archer is also a carbon copy of this one.

Then I can assume you fucking hate your archers, because:
- NO dodge (not mandatory, more on that later)
- NO Nimble/Battle Forged
- NO anticipation
- Fast Adaptation. Unless you pick god awful recruits, FA is a terrible choice. Check online, lots of ppl did the math on FA and the bottom line is simple: only good during the very early game and on people that suck anyway.

Also, crossbowmen differ from archers. I'll post my thoughts on xbowman when I update the guide.

LOOK, Inb4 "I DON'T HAVE TO BE GUD AT THIS GAME, I HAVE A LIFE AND I CAN'T SPEND 450h INTO A GAME JUST TO WRITE A REVIEW, GRAAAAAAAA". I don't have a problem with people being bad at a game, we all have to start somewhere. But I DO have a problem with this:

This isn’t necessarily bad, but what’s much worse is that once you pick the few “must-haves”, you’ll notice you've run out of perks to take and are just comparing what’s left in terms of which is the least useless. It was especially true for me with regard to archers – past a certain point, I could just as well choose perks by closing my eyes and pointing at something random.

You have poor understanding of the mechanics and you're misrepresenting them in the review, turning away potential players from a good game. This is EXACTLY the same shit I p. much "crusaded" against during AoD release. Tons of idiots making bullshit claims about AoD's combat simply because they suck and couldn't be bothered to learn. I wrote guides, I made videos, I made a fucking Ironman run. Nothing changed. Morons gonna moron. And you're very close to joining their ranks with the quoted statement.

Sry breh. I like your reviews and I picked up Blackguards solely because you recommended it (and played it for 100+ hours). But this time you missed the mark even worse than with Underrail.

 

[Parabalus]

You have poor understanding of the mechanics and you're misrepresenting them in the review, turning away potential players from a good game. This is EXACTLY the same shit I p. much "crusaded" against during AoD release. Tons of idiots making bullshit claims about AoD's combat simply because they suck and couldn't be bothered to learn. I wrote guides, I made videos, I made a fucking Ironman run. Nothing changed. Morons gonna moron. And you're very close to joining their ranks with the quoted statement.

Sry breh. I like your reviews and I picked up Blackguards solely because you recommended it (and played it for 100+ hours). But this time you missed the mark even worse than with Underrail.

There is nothing wrong with choosing bad perks, especially on your first playthroughs, but arrogantly stating that they are all bad, bland and deserve no further consideration is horsecock. Darth Roxor is channeling the very essence of

with such a stupid statement, ie. I will pick whatever I want because nothing matters.

I do think the review is rather on point, the game requires a very specific mindset to enjoy. If you play on Ironman you could easily drop 500+ hours into it, I played without and had a good 50ish of enjoyment. Frequent restarts at the beginning of the sparsely documented learning process on ironman would have probably driven me off.

 

[Excidium II]

ok here more or less

You can assume almost every shield guy is a clone of Chomikus, with only minor differences such as weapon mastery or the presence of taunt/nine lives.

Then I can assume you don't know WTF you're doing, since you can't differentiate between a pure tank/early game footman and a hybrid/late game footman. Not taking berserk/killing frenzy on ANY of your "shield guys" = you're bad. Also, headhunter is very viable IF you have some synergy with it. Here is an example:

No underdog and no rotation. This footman is VERY offense oriented. I made him so because he had Iron Lungs AND the +10% chance to hit the head from his background. See, unlike the bullshit you state in the review, BB actually DOES have a lot of variety in regards to builds. You simply couldn't be bothered to experiment. I'll be returning to this point once I finish my guide update on Steam.

2H axe guy. I don't even know why I bothered giving him steel brow.

Because you don't understand that Steel Brow's effectiveness reduces as you get better helmets and it's only really decent for ppl who can't use good helmets anyway? (eg. archers and duelists). You would know that if you had actually bothered to learn the game. Also, Fearsome with a weapon that is VERY likely to hit the 15 HP threshold without it anyway? Ok...

Greatsword guy. Shield expert is a bit of a bummer but he started off as a shield guy and was later switched to greatsword.

Choosing suboptimal perks when you're learning a game is normal and not at all reason to be ashamed. But claiming the game is badly designed because "I KEEP TRYING TO PICK THE LEAST USELESS PERK!!!" when you leave your 2H without Killing Frenzy and Recover is nothing short of

Banner guy. Don't ask me why he has executioner because I don't know. Must have been a "ugh what throwaway perk to pick now" moment.

This is Kotaku tier of idiocy and bad gameplay. So your sergeant has bad perks because "I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE SUCKS LESS CUZ I CAN'T INTO MATH!". Where the fuck is either Nimble or Battle Forged!? And WHY IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS NON-RETARDED WOULD YOU PICK HEADHUNTER ON A GUY THAT ONLY HAS 1 ATTACK PER TURN AND WHOSE DAMAGE IS AWFUL ANYWAY!?!? Jesus...there is just so much wrong here I'm not even gonna bother to comment perk by perk, I'm just gonna post a proper SGT and leave it at that:

Archer. You can assume every other archer is also a carbon copy of this one.

Then I can assume you fucking hate your archers, because:
- NO dodge (not mandatory, more on that later)
- NO Nimble/Battle Forged
- NO anticipation
- Fast Adaptation. Unless you pick god awful recruits, FA is a terrible choice. Check online, lots of ppl did the math on FA and the bottom line is simple: only good during the very early game and on people that suck anyway.

Also, crossbowmen differ from archers. I'll post my thoughts on xbowman when I update the guide.

LOOK, Inb4 "I DON'T HAVE TO BE GUD AT THIS GAME, I HAVE A LIFE AND I CAN'T SPEND 450h INTO A GAME JUST TO WRITE A REVIEW, GRAAAAAAAA". I don't have a problem with people being bad at a game, we all have to start somewhere. But I DO have a problem with this:

This isn’t necessarily bad, but what’s much worse is that once you pick the few “must-haves”, you’ll notice you've run out of perks to take and are just comparing what’s left in terms of which is the least useless. It was especially true for me with regard to archers – past a certain point, I could just as well choose perks by closing my eyes and pointing at something random.

You have poor understanding of the mechanics and you're misrepresenting them in the review, turning away potential players from a good game. This is EXACTLY the same shit I p. much "crusaded" against during AoD release. Tons of idiots making bullshit claims about AoD's combat simply because they suck and couldn't be bothered to learn. I wrote guides, I made videos, I made a fucking Ironman run. Nothing changed. Morons gonna moron. And you're very close to joining their ranks with the quoted statement.

Sry breh. I like your reviews and I picked up Blackguards solely because you recommended it (and played it for 100+ hours). But this time you missed the mark even worse than with Underrail.

Desperate nitpicking

 

[Darth Roxor]

Then I can assume you don't know WTF you're doing, since you can't differentiate between a pure tank/early game footman and a hybrid/late game footman. Not taking berserk/killing frenzy on ANY of your "shield guys" = you're bad.

i think the only other shield guy i have there that reached high enough level to get the last 2 rows of perks is the other spearguy

i used to have a bit more damaged-oriented shield guy once tho

unfortunately he died, so it goes

See, unlike the bullshit you state in the review, BB actually DOES have a lot of variety in regards to builds.

does it?

probably my fav part of your pic is that the guy actually has gifted picked

if that doesn't scream "i don't know what else here is actually useful", i don't know what is

You simply couldn't be bothered to experiment.

i did experiment plenty

i barely noticed much difference between most experiment subjects

Because you don't understand that Steel Brow's effectiveness reduces as you get better helmets and it's only really decent for ppl who can't use good helmets anyway?

or more like i must have taken it very early on when i was still mostly in the dark

Also, Fearsome with a weapon that is VERY likely to hit the 15 HP threshold without it anyway? Ok...

at least that i'm 100% sure was a last perk pick that i just put wherever the fuck i wanted

now that i look at it perhaps something better could have been taken like battle-forged

but let me axe you this - would that different perk COMPLETELY OMG CHANGE this guy's build? would it? or would it just stack up more numbers on him?

But claiming the game is badly designed because "I KEEP TRYING TO PICK THE LEAST USELESS PERK!!!" when you leave your 2H without Killing Frenzy and Recover is nothing short of

1. this one iirc has a lot of inbuilt fatigue boosts. he doesn't need recover.
2. no killing frenzy is a consequence of what i indicated before i.e. that he was remade from a shield guy and thus was short on perks. and given his abysmal morale and high melee defence, with the last perks i preferred to give him more stuff that would let him avoid getting hit (and start running), i.e. the reach advantage + underdog
3. so in other words i should have made this guy more of a clone of the axedude? got it!

This is Kotaku tier of idiocy and bad gameplay. So your sergeant has bad perks because "I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE SUCKS LESS CUZ I CAN'T INTO MATH!". Where the fuck is either Nimble or Battle Forged!?

he barely ever gets hit

why would i pick nimble or battle forged on someone who barely ever gets hit?

And WHY IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS NON-RETARDED WOULD YOU PICK HEADHUNTER ON A GUY THAT ONLY HAS 1 ATTACK PER TURN AND WHOSE DAMAGE IS AWFUL ANYWAY!?!?

because i ran out of useful supportive things and started picking something that would offset his lack of offence

perhaps i'm misremembering, but doesn't the standard have a +% to hit the head, just like other pikes? so there you have the reason for headhunter

also, i see your bannerman and i see very little difference in how he actually behaves

does that anticipation or whatever other stuff magically make him something else than just "stand behind with 1 kinda shitty attack a turn and toot from time to time"?

also i can just as well lol @ your recover and polearm mastery on the bannerman. both are completely wasted.

but it's k, i guess you just ran out of things to pick and started picking stuff at semi-random

also gifted again for double lol

Then I can assume you fucking hate your archers, because:
- NO dodge (not mandatory, more on that later)
- NO Nimble/Battle Forged
- NO anticipation
- Fast Adaptation. Unless you pick god awful recruits, FA is a terrible choice. Check online, lots of ppl did the math on FA and the bottom line is simple: only good during the very early game and on people that suck anyway.

this guy doesn't have dodge, iirc some others do. does it matter? does it make him superdifferent? also, he barely ever gets hit in melee.
nimble/battle-forged -> he barely ever gets hit in melee.
anticipation -> one or two others do have it. but considering my archers usually operate by first murdering the other archers before they can hit mine, well. and again - superdifferent build differences that adds supermuch difference?
fast adaptation -> in case you didnt notice, this guy has NO stars in ranged combat. that i managed to get him over 90 is a miracle. also, "check online lots of ppl did the math" are you fucking serious?

Also, crossbowmen differ from archers.

that is true, the crossbowguy was different a bit

altho dun remember how now and i'm too lazy to check

You have poor understanding of the mechanics and you're misrepresenting them in the review

am i now

There is nothing wrong with choosing bad perks, especially on your first playthroughs, but arrogantly stating that they are all bad, bland and deserve no further consideration is horsecock.

except the vast majority of them are in fact bad and bland

'hey want a free boost to some stat? ok here you go!' - best perks

 

[Eyestabber]

Do you even know what "nitpicking" means? Nitpicking would be doing this:

For example, an ambition to get a company standard requires you to gather 2k gold, after which you obtain said standard and a sergeant’s sash, both of which are items that let you specialise characters into morale boosting banner bearers.

Wrong. Those are two different ambitions. The "get 2k gold" gives you the standard and the "have a man with rally the troops" gives you the sash.

THAT is nitpicking because the point is ultimately irrelevant. What I did in the quoted post was replying to Roxor's bullshit that "perks are useless, HUURRR" by pointing out he doesn't know WTF he is talking about. The usefulness of perks IS a relevant point, because it ties into character progression which happens to be a CORE mechanic of the game. If you take Roxor's cock off your mouth, you'll quickly realize that I'm right. I never argued points like "game is repetitive" and "it could have a bit more content" because I agree with them and see no need to argue.

probably my fav part of your pic is that the guy actually has gifted picked

if that doesn't scream "i don't know what else here is actually useful", i don't know what is

Heavy archer. No gifted. Some builds are tight on perks, others aren't.

i did experiment plenty

i barely noticed much difference between most experiment subjects

Since you already equated "builds" to "archetypes", it only follows that you wouldn't see much difference. It's almost like saying Xenonauts has only "pew pew" guy and "kaboom" guy.

3. so in other words i should have made this guy more of a clone of the axedude? got it!

No. Reach Advantage, for instance, is terrible for a 2H Axeman.

or more like i must have taken it very early on when i was still mostly in the dark

Fine.

now that i look at it perhaps something better could have been taken like battle-forged

You don't say...

but let me axe you this - would that different perk COMPLETELY OMG CHANGE this guy's build? would it? or would it just stack up more numbers on him?

Nice excuses, m8.

why would i pick nimble or battle forged on someone who barely ever gets hit?

Because 1) ranged attacks exist, 2) if your Sarge dies you're REALLY screwed mid-to-late game and 3) so you can use your SGT to bail out ppl who get in trouble and NOT get him killed.

because i ran out of useful supportive things and started picking something that would offset his lack of offence

perhaps i'm misremembering, but doesn't the standard have a +% to hit the head, just like other pikes? so there you have the reason for headhunter

also, i see your bannerman and i see very little difference in how he actually behaves

does that anticipation or whatever other stuff magically make him something else than just "stand behind with 1 kinda shitty attack a turn and toot from time to time"?

also i can just as well lol @ your recover and polearm mastery on the bannerman. both are completely wasted.

but it's k, i guess you just ran out of things to pick and started picking stuff at semi-random

also gifted again for double lol

This quote proves you never faced more than maybe one or two geists at the same time. Once they force you to spam rally with your sargeant Recover becomes mandatory. Not exactly a random perk, eh? As for polearm mastery, it helps reducing fatigue consumption. So...not a random choice.

As for tactics, I also use my SGT to help with positioning by rotating 2H into position for an AoE strike, rotating archers away from charging Orcs/Necrosavants and bailing out whoever gets into trouble. That can only be achieved with high fatigue, hence Recovery. So, no, it's not just hiding behind a dude and rallying from time to time, tho that IS the main function of a SGT.

this guy doesn't have dodge, iirc some others do. does it matter? does it make him superdifferent? also, he barely ever gets hit in melee.
nimble/battle-forged -> he barely ever gets hit in melee.
anticipation -> one or two others do have it. but considering my archers usually operate by first murdering the other archers before they can hit mine, well. and again - superdifferent build differences that adds supermuch difference?
fast adaptation -> in case you didnt notice, this guy has NO stars in ranged combat. that i managed to get him over 90 is a miracle. also, "check online lots of ppl did the math" are you fucking serious?

Archers get hit by ranged weapons all the time. Once you start meeting Master Archers and copious amounts of goblins I can assure you your archers will die LONG before they can kill all archers on the other side. But anyway, wtf do you want with "would it be so different"? NO, it would still be a "Board Game Like Tactical RPG" made by a 3 dudes team with (understandably) almost no animations.

It's funny how you demand completely different playstyles and god knows how many viable builds, while completely forgetting that the very games you referenced (X-Com and JA2) DO NOT HAVE such features. Last I checked, every guy in X-Com eventually becomes "Flying Heavy Plasma dude with (maybe) a blaster launcher and (maybe) space magick". JA2 has fighter, support (mechanic/medic) and...melee? If you're feeling funny, I guess? Stealth? Not much variety the way I see it, when push comes to shove you just have soldiers that are good at shooting stuff and soldiers that aren't. Does the lack of build variety damn those games? No. Then WHY does it damn BB?

except the vast majority of them are in fact bad and bland

'hey want a free boost to some stat? ok here you go!' - best perks

If you wanna call them "bland" because they don't have much impact in the way you play the game, I'll just say "whatever floats your boat, I guess". But here is the thing: when you say "perk choices don't matter!!!" you're implying that, well, they REALLY don't matter aka encounter design is balanced around passive scaling and perks only give you an illusion of choice. Good examples of this would be both PoE and Witcher 3. You can win regardless of how badly you fuck up your builds.

In BB...not so much. First of all, there is no passive leveling. Either you take a perk/stat or you don't. And I can say from experience with 100% certainty that if you botch MOST of your builds (because you were trying some crazy shit) you WILL get anally raped come the FIRST late game crisis or even before that. So, guess what: your leveling choices DO matter. And although several perks have barely noticeable effect (eg: anticipation) some of them are pretty blatant in their effect. Rotation, Berserk, Recover, Duelist. Just to name a few.

 

[Gulnar]

Tbh i had pretty much the same opinion: a great engine, a mediocre game.

 

[hivemind]

so many desperate fanboys lmao

 

[MRY]

I like the idea of Roxor being called in by the president, Armageddon style, to deprogram some cult member that no one else can rescue.

 

[hivemind]

See, unlike the bullshit you state in the review, BB actually DOES have a lot of variety in regards to builds. You simply couldn't be bothered to experiment

there is nothing interesting to experiment against
encounters and enemies are samey as fuck so why bother getting into the absolute nitty gritty of scrounging through the character system

BB is a 20-30 horus game for anyone that doesn't suffer from some sort of an autism-lite obsessive disorder that they don't mind banal repetition

 

[Parabalus]

except the vast majority of them are in fact bad and bland

'hey want a free boost to some stat? ok here you go!' - best perks

There are only 4 pure stat boosts in the entire perk tree even if you are being very liberal with naming them.

Gifted vs FA is interesting on archers, I picked FA first time, same as you, but interchanging it with gifted is worth it depending on where your guy's RA caps out and what you're shooting at. It's a compelling gameplay choice, if it's not relevant that's a problem of the game being too easy, not a fundamental one.

there is nothing interesting to experiment against
encounters and enemies are samey as fuck so why bother getting into the absolute nitty gritty of scrounging through the character system

BB is a 20-30 horus game for anyone that doesn't suffer from some sort of an autism-lite obsessive disorder that they don't mind banal repetition

I can't recall a game in recent memory where every perk choice felt so hard, it's remarkably well balanced. That's a fact regardless of your thoughts on the merit of the core gameplay, I do agree it gets repetitive, can't really imagine how people get triple digit hours in it.

No. Reach Advantage, for instance, is terrible for a 2H Axeman.

Disagree, it's brutal on 2h axes. You can aggressively position for round swings knowing you will easily hit 100+ Mdef and be invulnerable.

 

[Excidium II]

Do you even know what "nitpicking" means?

It's nitpicking because it's a review not a strategy guide.

 

[hivemind]

It's nitpicking because it's a review not a strategy guide.

rated retarded because of the pointless full quote

 

[Jaedar]

Roxor said:
Banner guy. Don't ask me why he has executioner because I don't know. Must have been a "ugh what throwaway perk to pick now" moment.

This is Kotaku tier of idiocy and bad gameplay. So your sergeant has bad perks because "I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE SUCKS LESS CUZ I CAN'T INTO MATH!". Where the fuck is either Nimble or Battle Forged!? And WHY IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS NON-RETARDED WOULD YOU PICK HEADHUNTER ON A GUY THAT ONLY HAS 1 ATTACK PER TURN AND WHOSE DAMAGE IS AWFUL ANYWAY!?!? Jesus...there is just so much wrong here I'm not even gonna bother to comment perk by perk, I'm just gonna post a proper SGT and leave it at that:

Libelous slander! Glorious Jaedar has best perks. Best bannerman of all the brothers!

 

[Darth Roxor]

Nice excuses, m8.

excuses?

it's the fucking core of my argument you goddamn illiterate

check your fucking "heavy archer" - the ONLY PRACTICAL DIFFERENCE between him and mine is that he has heavier armour, and this ISN'T ANYTHING governed by the character advancements - the characters in this game are ruled in 80% by their gear, 20% by their perks

I could probably take another archer I have and the only difference would be that my dude has pathfinder + something else while yours has battle-forged + recover

and what do you fucking know, what ACTUALLY MATTERS FOR THEM, they have THE SAME. Everything else is flavour at best.


The same is true for your sergeant vs my sergeant. The same is true for "zomg you coulda taken something else instead of fearsome". The same is true for "WOW WHY NO KILLING FRENZY." It matters little to nothing if I picked those perks over the ones I have. The characters would still be acting the same and doing the same things.

This isn't differentiation. It's just min-maxing using a pool of lacklustre shit. In essence it isn't at all different from MMO-like "do I pick +1% damage or +3% hp?"

Also notice how many of these perks we have shared among different dudes to boot too - brawny, battle rage, rotation, berserk, colossus, battle-forged. You also seem to pack recover on everyone and gifted on most. And you are trying to tell me something is NOT up here?

 

[JarlFrank]

I like the idea of Roxor being called in by the president, Armageddon style, to deprogram some cult member that no one else can rescue.

Are you gonna make a game about it?

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

All I want to know is how you managed to get two guys killed in the tutorial fight against the weasel? (See your obit screenie).

 

[Jrpgfan]

All I want to know is how you managed to get two guys killed in the tutorial fight against the weasel? (See your obit screenie).

I didn't even know you could lose a brother in that battle, thought it was scripted so all 3 of them survive.

edit. Nvm you were talking about the second fight.