Review RPG Codex Review: Pillars of Eternity, by Decado

[Decado]

Something Awful liked the review too.

This hurts me more than any Codexian meanness.

 

[Hatred]

"He" is not putting any reviews on "his" website because he is dead. Jesus Christ.

Seems more than mildly dishonest to use his name that way then. I don't give two fucks about the film industry or Mr Ebert though so idk why you would expect me to know he was dead.

 

[Cadmus]

Something Awful liked the review too.

This hurts me more than any Codexian meanness.

Go to them now, they call you, you can't refuse

 

[Vault Dweller]

Now look at the author of the review. Is the author's name "Roger Ebert"?

You got me there. He is still putting shit reviews on his website. Why is that. Also wtf you got against bank tellers.

"He" is not putting any reviews on "his" website because he is dead. Jesus Christ.

 

[Jools]

The obisidian forums like this review.

Quelle surprise.

Fairly lulzy how they all turn into review-critics, or review-reviewers. But it's probably because even that is more entertaining than PoE...

 

[NotAGolfer]

In this thread we learn that reviewing games is serious business.

Are you implying it isn't?


Have to start playing Expedition: Conquistador right now, that gem was buried in my backlog long enough.
Thx thread, at least this means it wasn't a complete waste of time to read you.

 

[Decado]

"He" is not putting any reviews on "his" website because he is dead. Jesus Christ.

Seems more than mildly dishonest to use his name that way then. I don't give two fucks about the film industry or Mr Ebert though so idk why you would expect me to know he was dead.

Because you made a comment about one of the reviews he wrote, except he didn't write it, which makes your entire comment stupid and invalid? Seriously this is embarrassing, go away.

 

[Hatred]

Because you made a comment about one of the reviews he wrote? Seriously this is embarrassing, go away.

You brought the fucker up as though he was somehow relevant to the discussion and I went onto his website to get the gist of who the fuck he is and how he is relevant to discussion. Turns out he isn't and is on record saying video games aren't an artform. Not sure why you are embarrassed. You seem to be flip flopping a lot here on your emotions.
Maybe a hug will level you out some.

 

[Decado]

Because you made a comment about one of the reviews he wrote? Seriously this is embarrassing, go away.

You brought the fucker up as though he was somehow relevant to the discussion and I went onto his website to get the gist of who the fuck he is and how he is relevant to discussion. Turns out he isn't and is on record saying video games aren't an artform. Not sure why you are embarrassed. You seem to be flip flopping a lot here on your emotions.
Maybe a hug will level you out some.

This isn't fooling anyone.

 

[NotAGolfer]

Why doesn't Hatred have a Possibly Retarded tag?

Or are tags just there for lulz and betting nowadays?

edit:
Turok Gotcha! Stahp with the brofist harvesting!

 

[Turok]

Nice review, 100% accurate.

 

[Sensuki]

Rolf

 

[Immortal]

Rolf

 

[NotAGolfer]

I know that face.
Where do I know that face from?
Is it one of these faces, you know?

 

[Weirdstuffinspace]

Something Awful liked the review too.

This hurts me more than any Codexian meanness.

Go to them now, they call you, you can't refuse

And take that shill infinitron with you

 

[Lurker King]

The amounts of posts dedicated to discussing PoE probably outnumbers the discussion of all of those games combined. For the Codex at least, it's obviously the most significant cRPG release in years.

No, it's the most controversial cRPG release in the last years, and that is a huge difference. The reason is simple: on the one hand, we have players that are frustrated (or felt betrayed) by Obsidian. The kickstarter was successful, but the game was a complete waste of money and opportunities. PoE has a simplistic combat system, copious and superficial writing, etc. I’m not going to even discuss the amount of experimental shit that Sawyer did in the game, his dismissive remarks about grognards, etc. On the other hand, we have players that can’t conciliate the fact that the game sucks with their blind adoration for some developers at Obsidian. They will deny all the problems of PoE in the most shameless manner. Thus, the Codex is split between impartial players that are calling Obsidian on their shit and fanboys that can’t acknowledge their failure.

 

[Athelas]

The amounts of posts dedicated to discussing PoE probably outnumbers the discussion of all of those games combined. For the Codex at least, it's obviously the most significant cRPG release in years.

No, it's the most controversial cRPG release in the last years

You say that as if something can't be both controversial and significant. It was already the most discussed RPG on the Codex before it was even released. Which is rather odd, you'd think the Codex's tastes would slant towards something more Fallout-ish rather than something like PoE.

complete waste of money and opportunities

I don't think you understand the definition of 'complete waste'. The NWN2 engine was practically made out of cardboard and it gave us Mask of the Betrayer less than a year after NWN2's release. The PoE engine is actually surprisingly solid and polished and should be a good foundation for future RPG's - it already is, with T:ToN.

 

[tuluse]

PoE's combat isn't simple at all. It might suck, but it's quite complex.

 

[Lurker King]

PoE's combat isn't simple at all. It might suck, but it's quite complex.

Tanks upfront, damage dealers in the back. Kill them all!

 

[Sensuki]

The mechanics are complex but the execution is simple. BG1 also has fairly simple combat but there are instances where you need to do something a bit different - react to Mages, spells and status effects. You can pretty much just ignore everything in Pillars of Eternity.

I believe that's somewhat intentional because Something Awful and badgame at large do not want to care about that stuff. They do want the illusion of choice at character creation and in dialogue though - which is what they got.

 

[Average Manatee]

PoE's combat isn't simple at all. It might suck, but it's quite complex.

At first glance you might consider it to be of moderate complexity, but when you play the game you realize that most of it is of little importance. Even Decado states that itemization and stats feel basically irrelevant.

 

[Turok]

The amounts of posts dedicated to discussing PoE probably outnumbers the discussion of all of those games combined. For the Codex at least, it's obviously the most significant cRPG release in years.

No, it's the most controversial cRPG release in the last years, and that is a huge difference. The reason is simple: on the one hand, we have players that are frustrated (or felt betrayed) by Obsidian. The kickstarter was successful, but the game was a complete waste of money and opportunities. PoE has a simplistic combat system, copious and superficial writing, etc. I’m not going to even discuss the amount of experimental shit that Sawyer did in the game, his dismissive remarks about grognards, etc. On the other hand, we have players that can’t conciliate the fact that the game sucks with their blind adoration for some developers at Obsidian. They will deny all the problems of PoE in the most shameless manner. Thus, the Codex is split between impartial players that are calling Obsidian on their shit and fanboys that can’t acknowledge their failure.

This happen when you already live more than 20 years and play almost all rpg in market, everything got repetitive and nothing is new.

Is time to leave the games for the kids my friend.

 

[Sensuki]

I consider myself a post-gamer.

 

[tuluse]

Sensuki explained it better than me.

Yes the act of combat is often simple in the game, but the system of combat is complex.

 

[Vault Dweller]

This happen when you already live more than 20 years and play almost all rpg in market, everything got repetitive and nothing is new.

Oblivion is an amazing RPG if it's the first game you play. It has like skills and weapons and you fight monsters. How awesome is that?