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Diogo Ribeiro

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Your drivel:

Volourn said:
Bull. I said Gothic 2 was a an RPG despite its lack of a dialogue skill. Some bonehead disagreed, and said it was actually an adventure game. You basically agreed. So, what is it? Is Gothic 2 a RPG or an adevnture game? Do you need actual dialogue skills for a game to be a RPG or not? Make your choice, and stop "waffling". Until then, I'll be laughingling.

I'm not. You are. Youa re the troll. You guys said if a game doens't have dialogue skillz it's not really a RPG. Youa re wrong. Deal with it.


My statements:

Role-Player said:


Role-Player said:


Care to bury yourself deeper?
 

Shevek

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I just dont think Volourn read any posts. He glanced over them, came to some random conclusion, put on his Gothic 2 Defender outfit and went to town with the trolling and insults.
 

Diogo Ribeiro

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Whipporowill said:
You can't seriously expect him to actually having time to read post as well as answer them?

As I said before I'm pressed for time with work up the wazoo, and I still make an effort. Why can't he? I don't know if Vol is in the same position as me in terms of time and work, but if he's not, it's a pretty piss poor attitude to have considering the person who is given work by about ten different teachers and works on them the whole day can make better use of his time to give some coherent answers while a person who has a lot more time on their hands can't. Even worse is that I find Volourn to be intelligent and capable of making coherent posts and present some valid food for thought, but this "R00fles" this and "Wowsers!" that and "No, you lose. Next =>" phase of his is pretty enerving and time-consuming.
 

Volourn

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"He has that tendency lately."

Oh please. Another one pulling that 'You ahve changed . Youw ere so kewl, and now you suck" types. *yawn* My posting style hasn't changed. You just don't like the fact that it's directed at you now because you are being silly.

I read you silly posts, and sugar coat it all you want; your basic point from what I read was that you need dialogue skills for it to be a realz RPG; if not it's just pretend RPG or some silly pseudo RPG. It's either a RPG, or it's not. Gothic 2, even without dialogue skillz, is a RPG. Deal with it. Again.


"Volourn to be intelligent and capable of making coherent posts and present some valid food for thought"

Bullshit. The fact you think that shows how little you know. Sorry. What you menat to say, however, if Volourn posts exactly like I want him to, or his diatribes are targeted at others, it's all cool; but if it's directed at me, :" Waaaaaaaaa!".
 

Diogo Ribeiro

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Volourn said:
Oh please. Another one pulling that 'You ahve changed . Youw ere so kewl, and now you suck" types. *yawn* My posting style hasn't changed. You just don't like the fact that it's directed at you now because you are being silly.

Drop the mouth stuffing. What I don't like is the fact that someone I could pretty much have decent conversations with suddenly pulls all kinds of stupid crap during conversation. If what you suggest was true - that I'm reacting in some or other way because you're telling me something - than I would've reacted like this earlier, because it's no the first time we disagree in less than friendly terms. Yet, I didn't. But it's too hard to understand this, I guess, and the blame has to be mine.


I read you silly posts, and sugar coat it all you want; your basic point from what I read was that you need dialogue skills for it to be a realz RPG; if not it's just pretend RPG or some silly pseudo RPG. It's either a RPG, or it's not. Gothic 2, even without dialogue skillz, is a RPG.

Your argument (and I use the term loosely here) is starting to get pathetic and with enough holes to drive an SUV through it. I made two statements where I've implied I found a lack of dialogue skills to limit roleplaying, not that it would be the ultimate factor in determining wheter it was an RPG or not. As Whip pointed out, the Ultimas didn't had a speech skill, and I considered them RPGs - on the other hand, the creation and use of such a skill could have improved the roleplaying in the game. Nowhere did I state a lack of it would not make it an RPG, merely that it resembled more of an adventure game in mechanics (which isn't that hard to realize, given the mechanic is widely used in both, but its the CRPG that tends to use dialogue in other ways, and in conjunction with other mechanics). Yet, you keep making the same baseless assumption and going for the radical viewpoint where you have to try and prove yourself as the one with the winning argument.

At this point I don't care wheter you're going to dig yourself even deeper, or if you are finally going to realize what I've said. My point is clear, it's only upon you to understand it or fib some more to try and save face.


Deal with it. Again.

Learn to read. Again.


Bullshit. The fact you think that shows how little you know.

Yeah, maybe I should consider you stupid instead. Hey, y'know what? That's just the kind of material you'd need to make yet another moronic assumption that I have a particular line of thought because I post around here.


What you menat to say, however

Don't presume to know what I want to say or not.


if Volourn posts exactly like I want him to, or his diatribes are targeted at others, it's all cool; but if it's directed at me, :" Waaaaaaaaa!".

Go fuck yourself.

You, more than anyone, should know what you posted there is plain and utter bullshit, Volourn, and as proof I can perfectly dig up situations where we disagreed, as I've said before, in less than friendly ways, where you directed your 'diatribes', as you put it, against me or something I said, and yet I didn't reacted in any out of the ordinary way. I had no reason to do so then, and I certainly don't have a reason to do so now - and I certainly wouldn't do it over simple disagreements.

Play the victim all you want, and lie all you want, but don't do it at my expense. Ever. Again.
 

Volourn

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Go tell it to the mountain.

Gothic 2 is a RPG. As much as PST, NWN, or yes even FO (though I do like FO more).

So, you think it's "just less of a RPG"? Meh. Whatever. Play semantics all you want.

That is all.


"You, more than anyone, should know what you posted there is plain and utter bullshit, Volourn, and as proof I can perfectly dig up situations where we disagreed, as I've said before, in less than friendly ways, where you directed your 'diatribes', as you put it, against me or something I said, and yet I didn't reacted in any out of the ordinary way. I had no reason to do so then, and I certainly don't have a reason to do so now - and I certainly wouldn't do it over simple disagreements."

Oh, please. You are breaking my heart. It's a good thing I'm not worried what you or others think of me.. if I did, maybe I'd shed a tear.


"Go fuck yourself."

Impressive. All because I think Gothic 2 is a full fledge RPG even though it has no dialogue skillz.

R00fles!

I actually thoguht my first post in this thread was pretty cool; but you had to go all melodrmaatic on me.

Geez. Why watch soap operas when the 'net is one.
 

Avin

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volo, is that true the word on the forums that you live in your mother's basement?
 

Volourn

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"volo, is that true the word on the forums that you live in your mother's basement?"

No. The truth is is that I live in YOUR mother's bed. :P
 

Avin

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do you make menáge à trois with my father and mother or it's just her?
 

Volourn

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Just your momma. He video tapes it.. expect a birthday present. :cool:
 

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Volourn said:
non skill checked free dialogue trees can work in building a good game atmopshere and still have role-playing
Like I said, dialogue skills is my #1 way; but the other way isn't completely hopeless.
I just want to derail the flame war here and, actually, agree with what Volourn said _originally_.
Think about it, the 'skill' is a number you can check beforehand or after. It doesn't restrict role-playing to have _all_ the choices available to all kinds of characters as long as subsequent difficulty checks are made and outcomes are accounted for.
On the other hand, it hurts the gameplay/replayability somewhat, due to the obvious 'lack of discovery' aspect. :)

I, personally, would vote for expanding the dialogue tree with skill checks versus chopping it down, and have complex outcomes with _several_ skill checks on them. This might help to avoid the aforementioned PS:T choice-but-no-choice dilemma.
 

Diogo Ribeiro

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Volourn said:
Impressive. All because I think Gothic 2 is a full fledge RPG even though it has no dialogue skillz.

R00fles!.

I would ask you to deliver actual proof of the bullshit you're posting, but we all know you'd fumble for it as there is none to be found (your reluctance when it comes to dealing with the part of my post where I said I could present situations that nullified your assumptions speaks louder than your silence), and since I don't want to bore anyone else here to tears by asking something which you'd answer with the usual nonsensical and hyperbolic crap, I'm not going to fuel the fire anymore.

Blabber on if you must, but at this point, it's painfully obvious you're being an asshole, if not an outright troll. Congratulations, hope your career works out, but as I implied before, you're not going to do it at my expense. You still can go fuck yourself; you, and your moronic attitude of playing the victim and misunderstanding things on purpose. Those who don't have shit for brains can spot your piss poor argument a mile away, along with your baseless accusations - and that's all I need of them.

At this point, the garbage you posted only entertains you and no one else. Enjoy it while it lasts.
 

Avin

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Volourn said:
Just your momma. He video tapes it.. expect a birthday present. :cool:

he's a pervert. probably selling it on internet for cash. just don't surprise yourself when in your porn emule searches you find yourself in "home made amateur porn sexx wifey chicken blowjob series anal 4".

anyway, after that, do you live or not in your mommy's basement? it wasn't me that said that.
 

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