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[Surlent]

Gameplay wise KotR2 is already PST2.
Hell, it's almost story wise as well.

 

[Sammael]

Planescape was discontinued. Curiously enough, though, even though several companies approached WotC for the Planescape license, they were not willing to let go of it, and I've heard that its value is very high - second only to the value of the FR license. Whether this means that WotC has future plans for Planescape or not is unclear. Note that they had no problem selling licenses to other settings, such as Ravenloft and Dragonlance.

 

[Surlent]

How can its value be so high if the whole setting is discontinued ?
Do the old products still sell so well then ?

 

[Sol Invictus]

I still have some of their limited edition manuals and mod books from when I won the Torment fansite contest.

 

[Kuato]

I don't think the Planescape setting is too hard to understand, or just for "smart folks". I think that many people just found the setting a bit too out there. For the hardcore that loved it (of which I am one), they loved it a lot.

Unfortunately licenses which bring with them a built-in audience which is too small to really be profitable yet also hardcore and fanatical enough to be considered a nuisance (whether true or not doesn't really matter when it comes to perceptions) isn't going to make a publisher very eager to develop it much. This is probably why we'll also never see a proper Shadowrun RPG, which makes me much sadder.

As I was trying to point out in my earlier post about the underwater timetraveling soccer player dream person, is Planscape really that far out when compared to other popular rpgs that I would definutely classify as being out there. If Planescape is as "out there" as some these other rpgs the potential interested audience could be much larger than any of us think.

again look these metacritic standings

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platfor ... apetorment

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platfor ... alfantasyx

 

[Avin]

Planescape can be discontinued by 3rd edition BUT Sigil is still an official product, even more in the Planar Handbook. If you chek wotc's "deities and the planes" forum you'll see that the actual cosmology is not so liked as the Great Wheel.

Nothing prevents a company for making a Sigil game.

 

[Volourn]

Yo, Kuato, look at the number of votes there, dude. How can you use that as a sign of some excellent popularity based on 11 friggin' votes.

 

[Sol Invictus]

11 votes? Where did you get the number from, Volourn? Those RPGDot polls are fucking sad, if that's true.

 

[Rhombus]

11 votes? Where did you get the number from, Volourn? Those RPGDot polls are fucking sad, if that's true.

He was talking about the polls/votes on the metacritic site..

PsT: 9.9 based on 11 votes.

Final Fantasy X: 8.5 based on 110 votes.

 

[Volourn]

Not RPGDot. I'm referring to Kuato's link for PST user ratings. And, it was 21 'professional' reviews.

I have no idea how many people voted on RPGDot.

 

[Sol Invictus]

Oh, that. Well, just look at the Site Reviews. PST scored 91% and its lowest score is 80%.

FFX's lowest score is 60%.

 

[Kuato]

Oh, that. Well, just look at the Site Reviews. PST scored 91% and its lowest score is 80%.

FFX's lowest score is 60%.

Exactly the kind of stuff publishers should be taking into consideration and some do

Im just saying with scores like that Planescape is a Realm not to be Forgotten

 

[mrmarcus]

Review Scores =/= Profit scores.

 

[Dgaider]

mrmarcus is correct. Good reviews are nice and prestige has a certain value to a publisher, but at the end of the day Planescape: Torment's biggest sin was probably that it wasn't as outlandishly profitable as Interplay wanted/needed.

 

[Kuato]

Review Scores =/= Profit scores.

I wouldn't go as far as saying review scores = profits but I would say they do tend to have an effect on potential sales

how safe would it be to say reviews don't effect sales

 

[ElastiZombie]

Unfortunately licenses which bring with them a built-in audience which is too small to really be profitable yet also hardcore and fanatical enough to be considered a nuisance (whether true or not doesn't really matter when it comes to perceptions) isn't going to make a publisher very eager to develop it much. This is probably why we'll also never see a proper Shadowrun RPG, which makes me much sadder.

Ah.. Shadowrun. It is a terrible shame that Microsoft is sitting on that license and not developing anything with it. I still enjoy playing the Sega Genesis version of that game. Not to mention the PnP version. Of course, I suppose there's nothing stopping someone from developing a Shadowrun inspired CRPG..

 

[Jaesun]

This is probably why we'll also never see a proper Shadowrun RPG, which makes me much sadder.

Why don't you guys call us some of your Microsoft buddies and buy the rights to Shadowrun from them.

I'd LOVE so see a Bio developed Shadowrun.

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

I'd like to see BioWare make Hitler: A Homoerotic Depression Era CRPG in the Jewish Ghetto. Hell, the reactions from the initial announcement would be fantastic, not to mention the inevitable GameSpy/IGN/GameSpot previews and interviews where they try to build hype for such a game.

PS. I added the "homoerotic" part for all the guys out there who request more romance options. It's time for you all to come out of the closet. :D

 

[Volourn]

"PS. I added the "homoerotic" part for all the guys out there who request more romance options. It's time for you all to come out of the closet."

 

[Fez]

I'm sure folk here would be happy to come out of the closet for that.

 

[Dgaider]

I'd like to see BioWare make Hitler: A Homoerotic Depression Era CRPG in the Jewish Ghetto. Hell, the reactions from the initial announcement would be fantastic, not to mention the inevitable GameSpy/IGN/GameSpot previews and interviews where they try to build hype for such a game.

Are you kidding? Hell, I'd like to write that!

 

[Sol Invictus]

Oh. I would pay to see that game.

 

[ElastiZombie]

I'd like to see BioWare make Hitler: A Homoerotic Depression Era CRPG in the Jewish Ghetto. Hell, the reactions from the initial announcement would be fantastic, not to mention the inevitable GameSpy/IGN/GameSpot previews and interviews where they try to build hype for such a game.

PS. I added the "homoerotic" part for all the guys out there who request more romance options. It's time for you all to come out of the closet. :D

It would definitely give the "Violence in Video Games" people something else to complain about for a change.

 

[Fez]

If you think of the outcry that'd happen if they made that game, it'd be so worthwhile.

It'd be like feeding time at the howler monkey pen.

If any previews described the game as having "balls-deep", gayness I'd buy it.

You could make it compatible with a force-feedback joystick. Mmmmmm...

 

[Reklar]

Reklar, remember that just because the average age of gamers is going up, the average IQ doesn't have to follow.

Very true, but if that's the case I wish they would stop making references to older games, especially ones with turn-based combat and isometric views, as out-dated. Sure there's room for innovation, but that doesn't mean you throw out the tried and true with the things that can be improved upon, like graphics and cliched storylines. Okay, so I'm preaching to the choir, but damnit I want to see smart progress in the gaming industry, not rehashed crap.

-Reklar
(a Fallout/RPG fan)