Preview RPGWatch preview Piranha Bytes' Risen

[Darth Roxor]

EDIT: several dudes are fighting the good fight against Falloutthreezation of cRPGs in the comments section of the Pollack preview. More power to them.

I love how the author of the preview first calls the Oblivions and stuff such 'milestones' in the preview itself, but in the comments he admits a few times that they're severely flawed, but then proceeds to say that they're cRPG milestones BECAUSE.

Yeah, just because.

 

[poocolator]

spell that transforms you into a small creature so you can go through small holes

:shock:

ISN'T THAT WHAT YOUR PENIS IS FOR?

 

[Shannow]

There is an interview that clears up the questions I had about the external "talent" like Rhianna Pratchett that PB hired for the dialogues.

http://www.worldofrisen.de/english/article_215.htm

I think some of it comes down to the translation, the gameplay translates, but the story, characters and dialogue often don’t convert directly. Previous games had just had a straight translation meaning some dialogue was a bit clunky, difficult to understand or contained jokes that worked in Germany but made no sense in English. For Risen that was something they wanted to change and we have.

So this will thankfully not affect me. No Rhianna Pratchett for me, thank you, but no thank you. I always considered the Gothics to have the best dialogue from all games I've played. (Well, G3 didn't have consistent good quality. But that only led to some genericness/soulnessless for a few dialogues. Nothing cringeworthy.) Probably because they talk very much like I/my friends do or would want to *shrug* And maybe because I played PS:T in German
But non-German players always criticised the stilted dialogue and generally didn't like it much. I'm actually quite interested if it will be different this time or if it will simply be a waste of resources.

Fun fact: A few character names were changed for the English version. One of them was "Dick" because it was considered offensive.

 

[PrzeSzkoda]

There is an interview that clears up the questions I had about the external "talent" like Rhianna Pratchett that PB hired for the dialogues.

http://www.worldofrisen.de/english/article_215.htm

I think some of it comes down to the translation, the gameplay translates, but the story, characters and dialogue often don’t convert directly. Previous games had just had a straight translation meaning some dialogue was a bit clunky, difficult to understand or contained jokes that worked in Germany but made no sense in English. For Risen that was something they wanted to change and we have.

So this will thankfully not affect me. No Rhianna Pratchett for me, thank you, but no thank you. I always considered the Gothics to have the best dialogue from all games I've played. (Well, G3 didn't have consistent good quality. But that only led to some genericness/soulnessless for a few dialogues. Nothing cringeworthy.) Probably because they talk very much like I/my friends do or would want to *shrug* And maybe because I played PS:T in German
But non-German players always criticised the stilted dialogue and generally didn't like it much. I'm actually quite interested if it will be different this time or if it will simply be a waste of resources.

Hell yeah. I fell in love with the German writing from some of the very first lines of Gothic 1: The Hero: "Ich heiße...", Diego: "Mir interessiert nicht wie du heißt" (badass); that, coupled with very fitting voice-acting, resulted in pure pwn. I only played Gothic 3 for the voice-acting, and am sad and enraged at the fact that PB apparently did not hire the same actors for Risen. They should have, really. Especially the guy who voiced the nameless hero.

 

[Morkar Left]

Dietmar Wunder would be the ideal voice actor for me. He did the voice acting for the hero in Two Worlds and it was pretty good (equal in quality compared to the nameless hero in gothic).http://www.dietmarwunder.de/

 

[JarlFrank]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuNPdkys1Mk
Gothic 3 voiceacting at its best.

 

[LittleJoe]

pure German

Fascist.

Seriously though, I'm looking forward to this game more than any other for years.

 

[Black Cat]

@ dragonfk

"I believe it's only "no diving" because previewer mentions that if you go out to far into the sea, a big sea monster will catch you and deliver back to the shore."

Shouldn't that be, like, eat you? So the Big Monster is kind and fluffy and acts like a very, very, very big and ugly and full of tentacles Dolphin instead of going all, like, soul crunching time! and stuff?

 

[Darth Roxor]

Shouldn't that be, like, eat you? So the Big Monster is kind and fluffy and acts like a very, very, very big and ugly and full of tentacles Dolphin instead of going all, like, soul crunching time! and stuff?

Don't underestimate Dolphins.

 

[Fat Dragon]

 

[Shannow]

pure German

Fascist.

Nazi, if you please. Fascists are Italians. And obviously no self-respecting German with half a brain and a functioning dick would ever copy faggy Italians in anything... Ooh, wait...

@ dragonfk

"I believe it's only "no diving" because previewer mentions that if you go out to far into the sea, a big sea monster will catch you and deliver back to the shore."

Shouldn't that be, like, eat you? So the Big Monster is kind and fluffy and acts like a very, very, very big and ugly and full of tentacles Dolphin instead of going all, like, soul crunching time! and stuff?

Yep, it's getting more forgiving for the sake of the casuals. But if it ate you, you'd simply reload. Thus that is saved at the expense of immersion and credibility. But reloads aren't really immersive either and maybe they'll provide a halfway plausible explanation in some half-sentence...

 

[Drakron]

Nazi, if you please. Fascists are Italians. And obviously no self-respecting German with half a brain and a functioning dick would ever copy faggy Italians in anything... Ooh, wait...

Hitler was Austrian you know ...

 

[PrzeSzkoda]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuNPdkys1Mk
Gothic 3 voiceacting at its best.

Geil. Ich will Snapper jagen :ice ice baby ice ice:

 

[Shannow]

Nazi, if you please. Fascists are Italians. And obviously no self-respecting German with half a brain and a functioning dick would ever copy faggy Italians in anything... Ooh, wait...

Hitler was Austrian you know ...

And the Nazis were German and fascism was created in Italy. Your point being?

 

[Morbus]

If they had better roleplaying elements than "true" RPGs that was just incidental and a sign of how much certain companies whose names start with "B" fail at significant RPG-elements...

Bethesda, BioWare, Blizzard... Bob Bates...

 

[MetalCraze]

You should be happy you can't hear how russian translation of Risen will be. Calling it a fucking horrible shit is too modest.

 

[Black_Willow]

You should be happy you can't hear how russian translation of Risen will be. Calling it a fucking horrible shit is too modest.

Won't you have an Ukrainian translation?

 

[MetalCraze]

Unfortunately not, as it's ND's contract. ND is probably the worst bunch of translators you'll ever encounter. They use the same 4 voice actors to localize every single game - and they probably found them on the street because they can't act for shit. What else to expect from publishers that use 4chan memes in the descriptions of their videos and comments on youtube? Yep Risen is that fucked.

 

[Jaesun]

Unfortunately not, as it's ND's contract. ND is probably the worst bunch of translators you'll ever encounter. They use the same 4 voice actors to localize every single game - and they probably found them on the street because they can't act for shit. What else to expect from publishers that use 4chan memes in the descriptions of their videos and comments on youtube? Yep Risen is that fucked.

lol dude, that is serious fuck up man.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Unfortunately not, as it's ND's contract. ND is probably the worst bunch of translators you'll ever encounter. They use the same 4 voice actors to localize every single game - and they probably found them on the street because they can't act for shit. What else to expect from publishers that use 4chan memes in the descriptions of their videos and comments on youtube? Yep Risen is that fucked.

And people still wonder why Skyway is such a bitter cunt.

 

[Shannow]

Unfortunately not, as it's ND's contract. ND is probably the worst bunch of translators you'll ever encounter. They use the same 4 voice actors to localize every single game - and they probably found them on the street because they can't act for shit. What else to expect from publishers that use 4chan memes in the descriptions of their videos and comments on youtube? Yep Risen is that fucked.

And people still wonder why Skyway is such a bitter cunt.

Because he pirates the games and plays them in English?

 

[Darth Roxor]

Unfortunately not, as it's ND's contract. ND is probably the worst bunch of translators you'll ever encounter. They use the same 4 voice actors to localize every single game - and they probably found them on the street because they can't act for shit. What else to expect from publishers that use 4chan memes in the descriptions of their videos and comments on youtube? Yep Risen is that fucked.

And people still wonder why Skyway is such a bitter cunt.

Because he pirates the games and plays them in English?

How can you imply that? Skyway is an honest customer that pays for all games he acquires in order to raise his level of hatred - not only are they SHIT but also with a SHITTY translation and a SHITTY waste of cash.

 

[Shannow]

How can you imply that? Skyway is an honest customer that pays for all games he acquires in order to raise his level of hatred - not only are they SHIT but also with a SHITTY translation and a SHITTY waste of cash.

Mea culpa.
for his willingness to play shitty localized versions instead of going with english versions. Since almost any new game is multi-language (one of the very few good developments) you need to be very hardcore to do that.

 

[MetalCraze]

You just don't really know how much shitty russian publishers are. There are no words to describe that fail. F.e. the game I recentrly "demo'ed" - aka Combat Mission Shock Force Marines released by 1C - still has no 1.11 patch (which came out 9 months ago) while Battlefront's version is already at 1.20. Well 1C is shit so no wonder - right now they sell some game for $20 that is freely available for download from a developer's site.
And it took ND 6 months to release 1.3 patch for TW and only because everyone bawww'd. Not only that but they were selling 1.4 patch later on. Yes separately.

And the exactly same shit goes on with every single game published by russian retarded publishers. You want me to pay for a game that I will never be able to patch just like some crap from shitty backwater pirates?

 

[Deleted member 7219]

You should be happy you can't hear how russian translation of Risen will be. Calling it a fucking horrible shit is too modest.

Can't you get English voiceovers?

I think play.com ship to the backwater parts of Europe.