Shadowrun Shadowrun: Dragonfall vs Hong Kong (No Plot Spoilers!)

[Delterius]

Can't we just like every Shadowrun game.

This is the Codex, everything is shit except for games from the 80s/90s with simple systems.

My favourite Shadowrun game is Hong Kong and it seems like most Codexers dislike it.

I only like it less than Dragonfall.

This thread needs more

 

[Silva]

Save yourself the trouble and play Shadowrun Genesis instead.

Yeah, except if he wants to, u know, read games.

 

[Silva]

What I wanted is a Shadowrun open-world ala Genesis in the GTA real-time engine with tactics in the form of instructions for teammates ala Fallout 1/2. So when shit hits the fan, Bob the decker takes cover while Fred samurai goes in guns blazing and Jenny the mage auto-heals party members. And basic commands like "retreat" and "All in" for when I need to get out or risk everything. Gimme some cool shit like augmented reality, matrix and astral visual layers and an alive Seattle sprawl with dozens of persistent contacts and factions and C&C, and I will be cumming over the ceiling.

But please, no walls of text. Keep it simple and direct. Enough of reading games, I want to play them this time.

Can you do it Glitch?

 

[Jason Liang]

... GTA *is* Shadowrun Genesis. Shadowrun Genesis was basically GTA 0.

I am more motivated than ever to put out a good Shadowrun module.

 

[Silva]

By the way, fans of the tabletop game should really check The Sprawl rpg. We had a session last night and it was a blast. It was the best experience of Shadowrun I've ever had, and no one in the group wants to get back to the default rules.

 

[Falksi]

So I thrived on both Returns & Dragonfall big time, probably the best 2 PC games I've played in a long time. Tried Hong Kong, was OK but too dull for me.

Are there any other games which are similar to Dragonfall & Returns them which I may have missed? Not necessarily cyberpunk, just games which have similar good qualities which these games did (great stories, good combat, interesting characters, C&C etc.)

 

[Sykar]

JA2 1.13 in SR 2nd edition world.

CUMMING BUCKETS

I'd rather have a faithful 2nd edition adaptation with proper matrix space, self modified/build cyberdecks, custom programs, proper rigging including vehicular combat, astral space, meta magic and ritual magic. Now that would make my dream "cum" true.

 

[Jason Liang]

So I thrived on both Returns & Dragonfall big time, probably the best 2 PC games I've played in a long time. Tried Hong Kong, was OK but too dull for me.

Are there any other games which are similar to Dragonfall & Returns them which I may have missed? Not necessarily cyberpunk, just games which have similar good qualities which these games did (great stories, good combat, interesting characters, C&C etc.)

None that has everything balanced as well as Dragonfall. Dragonfall has the right balance of game length, combat complexity (complex enough to be fun, simple enough for the AI), well told stories with proper stakes yet still innovative, etc... Dragonfall is a greater RPG experience than the sum of its parts.

That said, you are probably looking for a game with similar squad-based, turn-based, tactical gameplay. The top games in this group include ToEE, JA 2 and Invisible Inc. None have Dragonfall's story but you'll enjoy these games if you haven't tried them before.

A game that's similar in that it's greater than the sum of its parts is Sengoku Rance.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

So I thrived on both Returns & Dragonfall big time, probably the best 2 PC games I've played in a long time. Tried Hong Kong, was OK but too dull for me.

Are there any other games which are similar to Dragonfall & Returns them which I may have missed? Not necessarily cyberpunk, just games which have similar good qualities which these games did (great stories, good combat, interesting characters, C&C etc.)

Realms of Arkania HD.

 

[Teut Busnet]

So I thrived on both Returns & Dragonfall big time, probably the best 2 PC games I've played in a long time. Tried Hong Kong, was OK but too dull for me.

Are there any other games which are similar to Dragonfall & Returns them which I may have missed? Not necessarily cyberpunk, just games which have similar good qualities which these games did (great stories, good combat, interesting characters, C&C etc.)

Have you tried some of the user created stuff?

I thought 'CalFree in Chains' and 'The Third Eye' were decent (while the 'Vox Populi' remake of the first is a bit weird - with chars behaving like you have / haven't talked to them before etc.).

Also, if you're looking for great combat there's always Battle Brothers, but you have to make your own story there.

 

[GarfunkeL]

JA2 1.13 in SR 2nd edition world.

CUMMING BUCKETS

I'd rather have a faithful 2nd edition adaptation with proper matrix space, self modified/build cyberdecks, custom programs, proper rigging including vehicular combat, astral space, meta magic and ritual magic. Now that would make my dream "cum" true.

While I understand where you're coming, I think the mechanics of JA2 are far better suited for computer gaming. SR2 mechanics, while okay enough to make playing easy enough, not so much. But Matrix, ritual/metaplane magic, rigging and extended decking are not mechanics-dependent. Granted, impossible in the JA2 engine but I was talking more about the systems and mechanics of JA2 1.13 than strictly using the game itself.