Shadowrun Shadowrun Returns - Dead Man's Switch Original Campaign

[rusty_shackleford]

p. sure neurosurgeons typically don't get phds

 

[Lacrymas]

She's doing a phd in neuroprosthetics, so maybe she's some kind of bio-technician and not a surgeon.

PS. this is my current avatar

I can't find the portrait without any extra stuff in it. I'm going for a sniper/shaman build this time.

 

[OSK]

To become a neurosurgeon in the US where this game takes place in, it costs between $300 000 and $600 000 depending on what type of neurosurgery you are going for. That is only for the expenses in medical school and doesn't cover living costs. What kind of bartender makes that kind of money even in the span of 8 years it takes to become a surgeon?

Loans. It's not uncommon for doctors to have hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt upon graduation.

Sex work does technically make more money, but most of it goes out to your pimp and wouldn't be faster or better in any way. Unless you have a ridiculously popular OnlyFans, I guess.

The internet has replaced pimps.

 

[Lacrymas]

If you can pay off medical school and/or feel secure enough to pay back your loans by being a bartender (and have enough time to be a bartender and attend medical school at the same time) AND sex work is safer and easier in this universe, then this dystopian future is better than our current reality ;d

 

[V_K]

Let's ignore the fact that they will be paying her if she's writing a PhD and not the other way around.

Sweet Euro naivete.

 

[Lacrymas]

Don't you get payed when you are writing a PhD in the US? Rofl, what a circus.

 

[NJClaw]

Don't you get payed when you are writing a PhD in the US? Rofl, what a circus.

Everywhere in the world you can start a PhD without a scholarship.

 

[OSK]

If you can pay off medical school and/or feel secure enough to pay back your loans by being a bartender (and have enough time to be a bartender and attend medical school at the same time) AND sex work is safer and easier in this universe, then this dystopian future is better than our current reality ;d

Bartending is a common job to do while in college. It's decent pay with hours that are outside of usual class hours. The pay isn't to pay back your student loans, but to cover living expenses and pay tuition not covered by loans.

Where did it say sex work is safer?

Don't you get payed when you are writing a PhD in the US? Rofl, what a circus.

Usually, but there's no minimum or anything. It's usually only just enough to cover living expenses.

 

[Lacrymas]

Everywhere in the world you can start a PhD without a scholarship.

Sure, but at least in Bulgaria and Germany only a minority of PhD students don't get paid. I assumed you either get nothing or have to pay to write a PhD in the US by the way he said it.

 

[Lacrymas]

Bartending is a common job to do while in college. It's decent pay with hours that are outside of usual class hours. The pay isn't to pay back your student loans, but to cover living expenses and pay tuition not covered by loans.

She says she pays for her studies/PhD with bartending.

Where did it say sex work is safer?

She implies sex work is the better option if she were willing to do it.

 

[Pink Eye]

Maybe by sex work she meant being a streamer/vtuber?

 

[OSK]

Bartending is a common job to do while in college. It's decent pay with hours that are outside of usual class hours. The pay isn't to pay back your student loans, but to cover living expenses and pay tuition not covered by loans.

She says she pays for her studies/PhD with bartending.

Loans don't always cover everything. I had loans and financial aid, and I still had to pay some tuition out of pocket.

She implies sex work is the better option if she were willing to do it.

Better pay, not safer.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Maybe by sex work she meant being a streamer/vtuber?

She clearly meant being a fart seller, but didn't want to have a stroke from trying to fart too hard.

 

[Delterius]

She manages to afford an education as a doctor by being a waitress?

the milennial fantasy

Let's ignore the fact that they will be paying her if she's writing a PhD and not the other way around

I mean this part is fine tbh. Why would there be grants for phd candidates in the age of corporatocratic feudalism?

 

[Lacrymas]

Bartending is a common job to do while in college. It's decent pay with hours that are outside of usual class hours. The pay isn't to pay back your student loans, but to cover living expenses and pay tuition not covered by loans.

She says she pays for her studies/PhD with bartending.

Loans don't always cover everything. I had loans and financial aid, and I still had to pay some tuition out of pocket.

She implies sex work is the better option if she were willing to do it.

Better pay, not safer.

We don't know any of this from the things she says (i.e. whether she has loans or not). What she says is that she pays for her PhD through bartending and implies sex work would be faster somehow.

I mean this part is fine tbh. Why would there be grants for phd candidates in the age of corporatocratic feudalism?

Yeah, I thought that maybe she implies you don't get paid to write a PhD in the dystopian future.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

we have a massive worthless phd surplus irl, if the fantasy world is similar maybe the fantasy is that the government pulled their head out of their asses and stopped subsidizing it

 

[Lacrymas]

Too many "worthless" PhDs only in a capitalist nightmare world where knowledge always has to be directly translated to money and has no other use or value beyond that. Don't get me wrong, most PhDs are suffocatingly myopic and boring, but that's another issue. I doubt Cherry Bomb's PhD in neuroprosthetics would be seen as worthless in the corpocratic machine.

 

[NJClaw]

Too many "worthless" PhDs only in a capitalist nightmare world where knowledge always has to be directly translated to money and has no other use or value beyond that.

If PhDs in the world function ANYTHING like here in Italy, then most of them are worthless regardless of the capitalist nightmare where knowledge always has to be directly translated to money and has no other use or value beyond that. Wasting public funds on what is basically a scam to inflate your supervisor's curriculum isn't "research" and has nothing to do with "knowledge".

 

[Lacrymas]

Oh, I'm intimately aware of the many failings of the academic system, don't worry about that. I was mostly commenting on that article's reasoning, which is that most PhD holders won't find a "real" job after they are done with the PhD. Which is probably true, but that doesn't mean the PhD system/concept is bad and should be cut like the article suggests, but that the economy/economic regime in general is bad.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Too many "worthless" PhDs only in a capitalist nightmare world where knowledge always has to be directly translated to money and has no other use or value beyond that. Don't get me wrong, most PhDs are suffocatingly myopic and boring, but that's another issue. I doubt Cherry Bomb's PhD in neuroprosthetics would be seen as worthless in the corpocratic machine.

how much will you pay me to get a phd in eating pizza

 

[Lacrymas]

Another thing I noticed:

The screens are showing little red pills (I know they are soda cans, but they look like pills). I, too, have seen the Matrix, game. I'm not too sure what it's supposed to say outside the reference ;d

 

[Mauman]

I was under the impression that Cherry Bomb was a habitual liar.

Take whatever she says with a grain of salt.

 

[OSK]

Are they ever going to make another Shadowrun RPG? While not masterpieces by any means, I really enjoyed the series.

 

[Roguey]

I was under the impression that Cherry Bomb was a habitual liar.

Take whatever she says with a grain of salt.

In the short story, yes, but in the game itself I don't recall her being anything other than a friendly bartender.

 

[Mauman]

In the short story, yes, but in the game itself I don't recall her being anything other than a friendly bartender.

THAT could be the lie this time around