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Skyrim: 30 hrs down the drain (Imperial vs Stormcloak spoila

Discussion in 'Bethesda Game Studios' started by Heresiarch, Nov 23, 2011.

  1. Heresiarch Prophet

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    Aela is hot. Her armor is not a chain bikini but its design is so sexy, with just enough revealing. And thanks to her nature, I bet she's a wild beast on the bed.

    And the brothers of the Companions are so cute, funny and manlish too. I bet character will have the most wonderful time in her life if they can have a threesome with her.

    But oh Lydia, she saved my ass so many times and she's loyal and what not. She followed me through anywhere and she's never annoying, whining, nor complaining. She's the perfect type to live together and forever.

    I play as a Nord blonde mage chick btw.
     
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  2. The Wizard Educated

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    Re: Skyrim: 30 hrs down the drain (Imperial vs Stormcloak sp

    talos worship will continue and thrive for one thing.

    that's kinda important for the continued existence of mankind. and no matter how much of a powerhungry asshole he is, at least he understands the underlying problems of the conflict, unlike tullius who at most shows a dislike, at worst is almost indifferent. which shows when you try to forge a truce to fight the dragons, also known as the biggest threat to shit ever.

    the new (mede) empire completely disregards prophecy and the mythic, in a world were you can become a god by just acting like one that's kind of shortsighted to the point of mental retardation.
     
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  3. shiteatingnippledick Arcane Patron

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    Skyrim women seem pretty easy bunch. :lol:
     
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  4. Edwin Scholar

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    You dont need to restart the entire game :lol:

    Its total nvm who you followed in the tutorial.You can change side before you turn in the broken crown(that is your last chance,it was the 2. quest of the legion as I remember).
     
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  5. Edwin Scholar

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    Re: Skyrim: 30 hrs down the drain (Imperial vs Stormcloak sp

    Talos was a Septim(Tiber Septim).As long as the Septims ruled the Talos faith was important because the Septim emperors had a little divine blood in their veins so nobody questioned their right to rule the empire,this helped to keep the empire from falling apart.With the death of the Septim line I cant see the importance of Talos anymore(as citizen of the empire).Yup,he was a human...but I am an orc so who gives a shit anyway.As I see it the Aldmeri Dominion is a big threat and the empire is not what it used to be.If the empire cant stop/defeat the Aldmeri Dominion nobody can,and the elves wont stop after beating the empire because they loathe all humans not just the imperials,a small shit like Skyrim wont stand a chance(with or without Talos nvm) and the empire wont stand a chance without Skyrim...at least General Tullius is not a puppet of the Aldmeri Dominion.

    The Talos worship wont die out in the empire(because Talos was a human and you know that banning religions never works,history proves it) and it can be restored after a victory on the battlefield.What matters is that the empire should be as strong as possible and prepare for war against dominion,because the war is coming just matter of time,maybe not in the soon future(because the elves live long and they have the luxury to plan in centuries not in decades like humans) but it is inevitable

    "the Thalmor invaded Hammerfell and Cyrodiil after Titus Mede II rejected their Ultimatum. Aldmeri forces would push deep into both provinces, taking many cities, including the Imperial City. The Thalmor then faced their greatest defeat, which became known as the Battle of the Red Ring. Despite this, due mainly to the exhaustion of the Imperial Legions, The Great War ended with the White-Gold Concordat, which resulted in Talos worship being outlawed in the Empire, and a portion of Southern Hammerfell becoming part of the Dominion. However, Hammerfell rejected the treaty and left the Empire, continuing to fight the Thalmor until 4E 180, when the Second Treaty of Stros M'kai was signed by both sides, resulting in the Aldmeri forces pulling out of Hammerfell"
     
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    It's important because Talos was Lorkhan-mantled. The Elves were so desperate to outlaw his worship because it's one step towards eliminating humanity and the idea of humanity, which they believe will lead to the world and linear time being unravelled and allowing them to return to the divine beings they believe themselves to be.

    So pretty important
     
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  7. fizzelopeguss Arcane

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    Argonians are gonna fuck shit up. bow low before the lizard cock.
     
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  8. Edwin Scholar

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    If the empire falls its all over,praying at the Talos shrines wont save the citizens of Skyrim(and if you side with Ulfric that will change very little,Talos worship will be still banned in the empire so the elves will still get what they want--->a weak empire which is easy to defeat,after that the elves can eat Skyrim for breakfast Talos worship or not)
     
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  9. Nope Liturgist

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    Re: Skyrim: 30 hrs down the drain (Imperial vs Stormcloak sp

    Talos main importance stems from him being the one deity placed on a high enough pedestal by humanity to force his/their viewpoint on the Mythic. (which happens to be Lorkhan/Shor/Shezarr's viewpoint, probably due to his ascent to divinity by mantling or being mantled)

    Given the track record of the Empire and the Nords when it comes to the Elves i'd bet my money on the Nords.
    The Cyrodiils have a history of being Elf-Slaves who didn't even want to give up their Elven gods after they were freed by the Nords.
    The Nords have a history of popping out Shezarrines who became Heroes to them largely through Elf-slaughter like Pelinal Whitestrake, Ysgramor, Tiber Septim and so on.
     
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  10. Tel Prydain Augur

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    I'm frankly just thrilled and heartened that Bethesda were even capable of creating sides with a little nuance. I can't tell if they ACTUALLY did it on purpose, or is if this is a "thousand monkeys on a thousand typewriters" situation.

    Still :salute:

    As for the situation itself, you can gamble short-term for long-term gain or ensure your immediate security by putting your long-term future at risk.
    It's a pity that your choice is unlikely to actually affect jack-shit when TES6 rolls around.
     
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  11. pocahaunted Arcane

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    Spoilers below.

    I'm not sure if it has been mentioned before, but you do have the option to ignore the faction quests and then, later on, you can try to sue for peace without interfering with the status quo after dealing with Alduin for the first time via the Jarl in Whiterun.

    Not sure if peace is actually agreed upon, because I didn't bother to try. I might load up a later save to test it out.
     
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    Re: Skyrim: 30 hrs down the drain (Imperial vs Stormcloak sp

    Maybe the decadent Nibanese but not Colovian Highlanders who happen to man the Legions. There was Talos cult who wanted to kill the Uriel Septim VII and replace him by stronger emperor in Morrowind. Talos is God of Soldiers, Settlers and Adventures in Cyrodil which means he is not so easily to be sidetracked or forgotten as those groups are most strong willed and/or backboned.

    And besides Cyrodil has their own heroes like Reman, Alesia and Centurion Bravilus. Nords are not as outsdanding as they wanted to be seen.

    Thanks for list I picked this Dibella Priestress, Sienna she has very sexy voice.... and is trained in horizontal tango. :smug:

    I'll marry her after Ulfric will die, there will be much drinking and singing.
     
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  13. sea inXile Entertainment Developer

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  14. Nope Liturgist

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    Reman is the only one that comes to mind, being the one to unite them all.
    Alessia is a bit of a strech considering she predates the Imperial-Colovian-Nibanese identity by a whole Empire and had the likes of Pelinal and Morihaus fighting with her.
    Centurion Bravilus doesn't ring any bells, can't seem to find him on TIL or any of the wikis either.
     
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  15. abnaxus Arcane Patron

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    Pretty sure Ysgramor wasn't a Shezzarine. He was just the most badass Nord in Tamriel history.

    Thalmor trying to outlaw Talos worship show that they're not strong enough (yet) to simply invade Cyrodiil and Skyrim and simply eliminate all humans (the only sure way to completely remove the idea of Talos/Ysmir/Lorkhan). They're pussies having to use underhanded tactics.

    Looking at that list, though, there's some quality trolling from Bethesda. You can marry that fugly Dunmer nirnroot farmer chick. :M
     
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  16. Luzur Prestigious Gentleman Good Sir

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    they named Bravil after him, IIRC
     
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  17. I married Aela. :smug:

    As for the Civil War quests, really fucking disappointing.
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    There's almost no resolution. I sided with the Legion and after killing Ulfric, nothing happens. The Jarls loyal to the Stormcloaks are switched around and you can hear some stuff in Dawnstar about how everyone is glad Skald is gone, and in Whitehelm people hate you for getting rid of Ulfric, but there is still no High King or Queen and most people still talk about how Skyrim is in Civil War.

    I would have preferred there to have been a Moot, like the one that the Jarl of Solitude wants only says can't happen because of the War, where you have to convince all the Jarls to pick a new High King, and then the Emperor comes to make it official. That would have been a great way to end the Civil War and the Main Quests.
     
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  18. Luzur Prestigious Gentleman Good Sir

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    exactly...the whole thing felt very anti-climactic after Ulric had died.

    like no one cared.
     
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  19. Black Cat Prestigious Gentleman Magister

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    Indeedy. Teddy Farkas is pretty cute and charming for a big dumb brute.
     
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  20. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    Everyone knows how it'll turn out:

    Nerevarine finally stops dicking around in the land of snakes and monkeys, and comes back. Seeing Vvardenfell's now a crater, things get to a logical conclusion: Nerevarine goes around kicking ass and taking names like a good Dunmer. And of course, proclaim everyone N'wah.
     
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  21. abnaxus Arcane Patron

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    Bethesda won't ever make Nerevarine return, let alone come up with a canon Nerevarine, Nerevarine could be a Khajiit or Argonian FFS.

    If there's ever going to be a game set in Akavir, there's probably going to be some bullshit of the Nerevarine getting owned by Tosh Raka or something.
     
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  22. Drakron Arcane

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    True, what can be said about the Nerevarine could be said about the Eternal Champion (Arena) ... the problem arises from Corprus that might make the Nerevarine immortal but that leads to the "Elminster effect".
     
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  23. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    Call me an racist conservative fascist misogynist, but from a mythological perspective I found a non-male Dunmer Nerevarine a jarring concept, even just to play as.
     
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  24. Ed123 Arcane Patron

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    You are a fascist, but they certainly could've done more with the theme of the Nerevarine being reincarnated into an Argonian, for example.
     
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  25. Drakron Arcane

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    Why?

    Nerevar was a Chimer that themselves were Altmeri that abandoned Summerset Island and followed the prophet Veloth.

    Nerevar was never a Dunmer because he was killed before Azura cursed the Chinmer.

    From the "mythological perspective" it makes no difference if the Nevarine is a Dunmer or a Almer and since Nevarine was very close to Azura he can pretty much be of any race as Azura is worshiped by pretty much every race, especially by the Khajitt.
     
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