So I just bought Neverwinter Nights 2 Platinum off Steam

[Cynic]

Would be great if someone made a mod for the Shandra thing.

 

[Deleted member 7219]

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What happened to Shandra annoyed the hell out of me because it was so unnecessary. You SHOULD have been able to affect what happened.

 

[Sannom]

bla bla

He's not there yet! You're talking of something else entirely!

 

[Deleted member 7219]

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Whatever happened to her, the player should have had more choice. That isn't really a spoiler is it?

 

[Cynic]

Hey hey, don't ruin shit for me! The Deathknight does not approve of spoilers when he gives a shit about a game, which is of course very rare, so don't spoil shit!

Does the game amp up the difficulty now that I have an extra party member cuz shit, it was pretty easy already even on Hardcore.

 

[Jaesun]

oh yes the difficulty will be going up, due to what you will soon be facing.

 

[Cynic]

awesome

 

[sser]

My 6 Barb/2 Bard is noticeably bad, but ah well. The Druid is more or less carrying my crew from the background right now. Seriously, what can the Druid not do?

 

[Cynic]

My 6 Barb/2 Bard is noticeably bad, but ah well. The Druid is more or less carrying my crew from the background right now. Seriously, what can the Druid not do?

She's pretty strong but I hate the goody two shoes nature of Druids, they are basically hippies who aren't cool enough to smoke weed, and without the weed, what the fuck is the point of being a hippy.

Why couldn't there have been a dark druid who like, pushes the earth to it's limit to kill and maim where she sees fit, because she's vengeful against people fucking up the earth all the time. Make it interesting ffs.

 

[Jaesun]

The nice thing about the NWN2 engine and toolset, is you CAN do that Cynic.

 

[Cynic]

Yeah that is wicked. Sadly, I don't have the time to do that kind of stuff...someone do it for me?

It would have been great to have a fully scripted proper NPC that was that cool. Bishop comes close I guess. Evil Ranger is not very typical so he's quite refreshing.

 

[sser]

My Barb fucking sucks!

 

[Cynic]

Is there some mod where you can in game edit your character and respec them or something like that?

 

[Xor]

The pace picks up considerably in act 2. It's shorter than act 1, but there's much less faffing about.

Also, the game really doesn't increase in difficulty until a certain enemy introduced late in act 2 (IIRC).

If you really hate elanee (I don't blame you), there's a really fun scene involving her toward the end of the game, and you get to make some interesting choices involving her. You'll know it when you get there.

And if you don't want to know what happens, don't read the spoilers.

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Personally I kind of liked everything they did with Shandra. She was interesting as a fish out of water character. And if the scene being discussed earlier ended any other way then it wouldn't be nearly as effective and people would probably take a different solution than the one presented every time.

This thread inspired me to play through the OC again. I discovered a console command "showcomments" that shows all the developer comments in dialog and everything else. That includes the vocal direction, which they have even for many characters who aren't voiced, as well as notes for the scripters.

 

[Cynic]

I discovered a console command "showcomments" that shows all the developer comments in dialog and everything else. That includes the vocal direction, which they have even for many characters who aren't voiced, as well as notes for the scripters.

That's pretty cool, might check that out. Cool that you're inspired. I think it's a pretty awesome game honestly, not sure why so much hate was there for the OC. Sure, it's lame at the start and some companions are fucktards but I can deal with it because the experience overall is pretty fun. Story is picking up as well. You are actually wondering what the fuck is going to happen next. It's quite refreshing when compared to Biofail.

But I think on a low performing PC it would be close to unplayable. I'm already raging on my laptop since I've had to switch over. It really is shit for a game that came out so long ago to be such a huge weight on a modern PC, even a laptop and as far as laptops go mine is not bad at all. Maybe it's just a Nvidia vs ATI thing.

 

[Xor]

I wouldn't really recommend reading the comments for your first playthrough; although I can't think of any specific instances of it there might be some spoilers in them. Also it makes the regular text much harder to read. I've already played through the OC a few times though (not quite 7 yet, but I'm working on it), so I generally know what everyone is going to say and I don't mind the extra text.

 

[Gord]

My 6 Barb/2 Bard is noticeably bad, but ah well. The Druid is more or less carrying my crew from the background right now. Seriously, what can the Druid not do?

She's pretty strong but I hate the goody two shoes nature of Druids, they are basically hippies who aren't cool enough to smoke weed, and without the weed, what the fuck is the point of being a hippy.

Why couldn't there have been a dark druid who like, pushes the earth to it's limit to kill and maim where she sees fit, because she's vengeful against people fucking up the earth all the time. Make it interesting ffs.

They should lean more towards true neutral alignent, I guess. In the end most seem to end up more towards neutral good.
Give them a bit more of a survival-of-the-fittest, natural selection and guardian of nature attitude.

 

[Cynic]

Doesn't dnd have an alignment requirement for Druids? At least I think 2nd edition did, that's when I stopped...

 

[Razz]

My main problem with NWN2 OC wasn't one that I usually see mentioned on the Codex, probably because most people quit playing along the way somewhere. It started off slow but Act 1 was overall OK. Act 2 got very interesting in points and I had a lot of fun with that, it's the real meat of the game. Act 3 however is one of the biggest rush-jobs I've ever encountered in a game, it was shameful. They clearly ran out of budget/time at that point and a lot of the planned stuff got cut.

(Not really spoilers per se but don't want to give any hints)

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The worst thing is that they resolve a lot of the most important story ends with one of the lamest plot devices I've ever seen, the "big open space". Brave hero, go to "big open space" and there you will find the next step in your quest. Very coincidentally we just encountered your mortal enemy walking across a big open space, we suggest you go and slay him. Etc.

It was a shame, too, as I was quite enjoying it till that point.

 

[Gord]

Doesn't dnd have an alignment requirement for Druids? At least I think 2nd edition did, that's when I stopped...

I thought they have to be neutral-something, anything should be fine as long as it is including neutral?

@Razz:

It may be a bit rushed towards the end (unfortunately a lot of games are), but I don't get what you want to say with your spoiler part here.

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Personally I thought the trial had both some of the best and one of the worst scenes of the game. The whole build-up and the trial itself is great, but the outcome sucks. At least if you did REALLY well, you should be able to avoid Lorne.

 

[Deleted member 7219]

I've got to say that if you really want to avoid spoilers you should just play the game. When Fallout: New Vegas came out I avoided this place like the plague in case I read something that ruined it for me.

 

[Cynic]

My char is a wizard / fighter / eldritch, maybe because I am a wizard, Sand seems kind of pointless especially since his spells suck bad.

 

[Gord]

First time I played a sorcerer and used Sand mostly for crafting, although I think he's missing a few spells that might be useful for that.

 

[Xor]

You can supply sand with scrolls to improve his spell selection easily enough; that's one huge advantage wizards have over sorcerers. There are plenty of merchants that sell scrolls and they drop often enough anyway.

 

[Gord]

Yes, you can, but his school of magic prevents him from using spells from the opposite school, so he will never be able to learn some spells.