Solasta Solasta: Crown of the Magister Thread - now with Palace of Ice sequel DLC

[Spectacle]

...now the Green Dragon died to 11 damage from a thrown dagger. Wth

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It's not real...

 

[Grunker]

...now the Green Dragon died to 11 damage from a thrown dagger. Wth

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It's not real...

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Just found that out, stupid is me. I wish the Magic Missile bug had a similar explanation :D

 

[Myzzrym]

Is there a known bug with Magic Missile? My MMs literally one-shot everything - what happens is each missile will first deal the appropriate force damage (1d4+1), then it will deal 5 necrotic damage until the target is dead. So one MM = 1d4+1 force damage plus infinite necrotic damage in increments of 5 :S

Wowowo that does sound like a big bug. Could you PM me a save file during combat where that happens? Like, get into a fight, save, throw magic missile to see if the bug triggers. If it does, just send us the save so we can see what the hell is going on lol.

 

[Grunker]

Is there a known bug with Magic Missile? My MMs literally one-shot everything - what happens is each missile will first deal the appropriate force damage (1d4+1), then it will deal 5 necrotic damage until the target is dead. So one MM = 1d4+1 force damage plus infinite necrotic damage in increments of 5 :S

Wowowo that does sound like a big bug. Could you PM me a save file during combat where that happens? Like, get into a fight, save, throw magic missile to see if the bug triggers. If it does, just send us the save so we can see what the hell is going on lol.

Unfortunately I rely on QS and AS. I haven't been able to reproduce it since applying the Sorcerer update, but given that it happened in all the Arena fights as well the Elemental fight, I'm sure it'll happen again. If it does I'll send you the save.

 

[Grunker]

All I waaaaant for Christmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas...

Is more fights like the green dragon in Solasta. First fight since level 3ish that almost made me have to reload. Not the game's fault my Paladin crit his level 3 smite and one-shot it, lol

 

[Grunker]

Meanwhile Myzzrym you can take a look at this lovely bug. Half-plate +1 and Half-plate +2 give the same AC due to a fairly dumb calculation error. Basically Half-plate +1 gets it's enhancement bonus twice; as part of the base AC as well as an added +1 on top.

So: Halfplate of Robustness is properly coded (gives a base AC of 17). Halfplate of Sturdiness is not (gives a base AC of 16 as well as an AC bonus of +1).

Savegame here: https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/08Cry581Gylb7aTz5tQjkL6zQ#Halfplate_funkyness

And screenshots:

Half-plate +1:

Half-plate +2:

 

[Grunker]

Note that only one of my two Halfplates +1 exhibit this behaviour, while the other works as it should.

 

[Galdred]

Regarding itemization, you get +D6 damage crating options (even + 2D4) fairly early on.
It feels like going through Baldur's Gate level with BG2 gear.
I wish they had given more varied perks than raw damage to weapons.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Grunker Your bearded elf chick keeps cracking me up.

 

[Grunker]

Regarding itemization, you get +D6 damage crating options (even + 2D4) fairly early on.
It feels like going through Baldur's Gate level with BG2 gear.
I wish they had given more varied perks than raw damage to weapons.

It's a resource thing for sure. The crafted weapons with added die rolls are very overpowered in an already easy game, but it's easy to code in compared to other enchantments.

 

[Grunker]

Grunker Your bearded elf chick keeps cracking me up.

Not changing that shit back, it's hilarious. For all this game's faults, its odd insistence to implement weird tangential D&D rules are its most endearing point.

My Paladin just got advantage on a roll to persuade an Orc because she spoke Orcish. That is some roleplaying depth I can't recall seeing in any other RPG ever.

 

[Cryomancer]

Can someone explain me, why elementals can be affected by necrotic damage at all? Isn't they are basically immortal personification of water/fire/earth/winds and whatever?

Because they are also made using "positive" energy. Note that on 5E, necrotic damage can affect even undead. On 3E, it heals undeads just like positive energy heals living.

 

[Lacrymas]

There was no necrotic damage in 3.5E, there was negative and positive energy.

 

[Cryomancer]

There was no necrotic damage in 3.5E, there was negative and positive energy.

Negative energy(3E) = necrotic damage(5E).

In 3E/Pf1E, a lot of offensive necromantic spells deals negative, OHK, physical damage, or attribute damage. All of the same spells on 5E dishes "necrotic" damage. In DDO, a epic level pale master can be walking with two death auras each one dishing ridiculous amounts of damage healing him, his minions and damaging nearby enemies and cast negative energy burst to heal himself by a lot while damages nearby non undeads. And your hireling and party members, can be reanimated and get the zombie template if he dies which makes you able to heal him too. I am playing a second life, lv 15 pale master in DDO and an loving it. Necrotic Ray can deal ludicrous amounts of damage and inflict a negative level if the enemy fails the FORT save.

Really wish that someone will mod The 5th edition pale master from grimoire entreteinment into BG3 or Solasta. Or that Tactical Adventures homebrew this class favor and sells it as a DLC. Will re download solasta to try the new sorcerer class; this time I will gonna play with 2x damage to party and 50% enemy hp cuz I prefer to kill & die faster. Will gonna play as a shock arcanist with 3 more sorcerers.

 

[copebot]

Doing the Caer Falcarn mini campaign with Ironman on blind with a new party, and I think it's actually quite a lot better than most of the content in the main campaign. You get the feeling that the main campaign was put together when they were earlier in development. Not having lots of weird assed vertically oriented rooms also tends to help the encounters.

There's also a pretty good way of regulating rests used in some of the early levels that could just be used in other dungeon designs using the tool. You just put the long rest area after a level of a dungeon, and then just don't have a pathway back once they enter the new level.

The game also benefits a lot from getting rid of / abstracting away the lengthy travel times. The little notes in the environment also tell a better story than in most of the MC. It's a little weird that this custom campaign has more area descriptions than the majority of the MC proper.

The Sorcerer is sort of interesting, as this is the first time I've encountered the class in any 5E context first hand. Their access to metamagic is what makes them special/different, but I would have kind of just preferred a wizard with metamagic feats.

 

[Grunker]

Another bug if you're still interested Myzzrym:

I'm level 10 and I think I've completed every sidequest in the game. When I completed the last one, this old, already done side-quest appeared in my mission board. If I accept it, the screen closes, but I don't get the quest. It's still there when I open the board.

Savegame: https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0zuXJsdatfzx0w0xbm243Ps6w#quest_board_weirdness_

 

[Grunker]

Well, I'm done. It tells you everything you need to know about this game's encounter design that during the final battle, while fighting the same goddamn monsters you fought on level 4, the enemy gets a non-threatening boss while you get the assistance of *TWO* dragons

Positives:
- Some of the best actual fluff-roleplaying, if not the best, in the business. Rolling Arcana checks to recognize tablets that give you some lore and will be worth alot to the factions of the game, getting advantage on speech checks on Orcs if you know Orcish, having Insight reveal if a person is lying or maybe just giving you an edge on a Persuasion check. Really cool.
- On paper what might be the best systems of a D&D RPG ever. Look at how cool this shit is:

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Yep, that's my paladin standing horizontally on a spider's web with her Cloak of Arachnids. Sick stuff. And there's a bunch more of that, 5E rules are implemented pretty well, you're excited to level up, you have many options during combat etc.

Negatives:
- Horribru story but honestly who cares
- Mediocre-to-bad encounter design that fails to utilize the genius systems
- Absolutely insane difficulty curve. Remember when Mortmal mocked me as a God amongst men because I didn't need to rest after 6 encounters? Past level 4, I don't think there's a Codexer who will have to rest in that span of encounters - and past level 6? Nigga please. You are not allowed to rest for the final sequence of fights in the game (5 fights total). I didn't know that so I burned *everything* on the first encounter and had nearly no spells left for the final fight. I still beat it, because your gear is absolute insanity at that point while monsters are still flailing at your with natural weapons and few threatening abilities. And did I mention some of the enemies are the same enemies you fought at level 4 while you get two dragons fighting for you? Yeah, it's close to winnable without even contributing.

This fact - the incredibly poor balance and so-so encounter design - harms the game beyond redemption. From level 6 to 10 I did not enjoy my time with the game despite this being like my dream game on paper. It's really impressive what they've been able to achieve with such obviously limited resources. Everything in the game is amazing - except actually playing it, because it demands nothing from you.

You can turn up the difficulty and you'll have to pay more attention, but the difficulty from the settings is just penalties to your to hit chance and saves while the enemies get bonuses. So enemies don't get more threatening or numerous - you just get fucked more by variance while your opponents get blessed by it. And it still won't be hard.

I really hope they make an encounter/difficulty patch for this one. The company is called 'Tactical Adventures' and the game is clearly about 5E combat. As a result, the trash story and characters are easily forgiven.

Bad gameplay is not.

 

[Lacrymas]

I guess it's great you can continue playing something you don't enjoy, I can't. Especially because there are so many other better games I'd rather play.

 

[Grunker]

Normally I'd bin it, but this game has so many things in it I love to bits. It's a special case.

 

[Mortmal]

Well, I'm done. It tells you everything you need to know about this game's encounter design that during the final battle, while fighting the same goddamn monsters you fought on level 4, the enemy gets a non-threatening boss while you get the assistance of *TWO* dragons


Negatives:

- Absolutely insane difficulty curve. Remember when Mortmal mocked me as a God amongst men because I didn't need to rest after 6 encounters? Past level 4, I don't think there's a Codexer who will have to rest in that span of encounters - and past level 6? Nigga please. You are not allowed to rest for the final sequence of fights in the game (5 fights total). I didn't know that so I burned *everything* on the first encounter and had nearly no spells left for the final fight. I still beat it, because your gear is absolute insanity at that point while monsters are still flailing at your with natural weapons and few threatening abilities. And did I mention some of the enemies are the same enemies you fought at level 4 while you get two dragons fighting for you? Yeah, it's close to winnable without even contributing.

Looking at the completion rate for the first gems its 25.9% , so on the codex people wont have trouble but it's apprently too hard for most people still. Last part was indeed without rest, but those are 5-6 medium encounters,its what it should be all the time . Strangely only happens in the end. I bet it was supposed to be like that since the beggining but they had no time to change the last part.

 

[Desiderius]

26% is really high these days. Can’t remember the last game I finished and wasn’t because too hard.

 

[Grunker]

Looking at the completion rate for the first gems its 25.9%

why are you assuming that's related to difficulty. isn't it kindda normal for most games to just stay unplayed in people's library. in fact 1/4 of all people getting the first gems sounds kindda high

 

[Vault Dweller]

Looking at the completion rate for the first gems its 25.9% , so on the codex people wont have trouble but it's apprently too hard for most people still. Last part was indeed without rest, but those are 5-6 medium encounters,its what it should be all the time . Strangely only happens in the end. I bet it was supposed to be like that since the beggining but they had no time to change the last part.

Low completion rates are typical these days, not because games are too hard but because people get easily bored and move on, and yes, 26% is pretty high.

Pillars of Eternity: 41% beat chapter 1, 26% chapter 2, 16% chapter 3, 14% beat the game.

 

[Mortmal]

26% is really high these days. Can’t remember the last game I finished and wasn’t because too hard.

its not the completion rate of the whole game its the first chapter.Completion is 5.1%.

 

[Mortmal]

Looking at the completion rate for the first gems its 25.9% , so on the codex people wont have trouble but it's apprently too hard for most people still. Last part was indeed without rest, but those are 5-6 medium encounters,its what it should be all the time . Strangely only happens in the end. I bet it was supposed to be like that since the beggining but they had no time to change the last part.

Low completion rates are typical these days, not because games are too hard but because people get easily bored and move on, and yes, 26% is pretty high.

Pillars of Eternity: 41% beat chapter 1, 26% chapter 2, 16% chapter 3, 14% beat the game.

Age of decadence 2% to 0.9% for late game achievements.