South Park: The Stick of Truth (PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION)

[Morgoth]

If it's true that I can smack Jewish Elves then possible Day 1 Month 1 purchase.

 

[Carrion]

South Park was good when it started, then it got better, then it got slightly worse, then it became shit, then it became good again and the newest season is/was shit again. At worst it's just horrible, forced crap that shouldn't be watched by humans, but I can't think of an animated show that would've made me laugh more often. The toilet humour in the series is mostly just parody of toilet humour anyway, and that's why it's funny. That trailer didn't make me chuckle even once, but then again, the individual jokes in the series usually aren't that funny when taken out of context. Usually the show is at its best when the stupid things are gradually taken to their extremes throughout a whole episode, which is something that might translate pretty well into a game.

Even if the actual game was funny as hell, I can't see myself playing it, though.

 

[MaskedMan]

I liked Southpark better when they had more than one joke per episode.

 

[J_C]

That trailer didn't make me chuckle even once.

Really? Not even at the part when the Star Trek nerd said something about photon torpedoes while fantasy LARPing and Cartman was like "God dammit Frank...every fucking time dammit....seriously" I thought that was very funny.

 

[Carrion]

Really? Not even at the part when the Star Trek nerd said something about photon torpedoes while fantasy LARPing and Cartman was like "God dammit Frank...every fucking time dammit....seriously" I thought that was very funny.

Okay, maybe that part. It was the hair that made that joke work.

 

[Turisas]

Chris Avellone ‏@ChrisAvellone

Various reactions to leaving a South Park game design meeting http://pic.twitter.com/Ae1t78FM

Must be going great!

 

[pocahaunted]

Kwans and their obsession with shitty humor never ceases to amaze me.

How can you fuckers watch family guy/american retard/south park?

 

[RK47]

Kwans and their obsession with shitty humor never ceases to amaze me.

How can you fuckers watch family guy/american retard/south park?

with a sense of humor?

 

[pocahaunted]

Appreciating toilet and other assorted lowest common denominator jokes a sense of humor does not make.

 

[Micmu]

The game is going to have zero replayability. I'll let my unofficial beta tester (my friend's 9-year-old kid) get tired of it first.

Jesus Fucking Christ, you're letting a 9-year-old watch South Park?

Well, that'll be one interesting social experiment...

Parenting has apparently gone to hell since I was a child

As long as there are no female nipples exposed he will be fine!!!!!!!!!!111 You know nothing about KWA parenting you pricks!

 

[Roguey]

The game is going to have zero replayability. I'll let my unofficial beta tester (my friend's 9-year-old kid) get tired of it first.

Jesus Fucking Christ, you're letting a 9-year-old watch South Park?

Well, that'll be one interesting social experiment...

Parenting has apparently gone to hell since I was a child

As long as there are no female nipples exposed he will be fine!!!!!!!!!!111 You know nothing about KWA parenting you pricks!

My brother watched South Park when he was nine. He's kinder and much more mentally sound than I am.

 

[Haba]

Maybe the fact that he is also a serial rapist? Or does that only count if you're caught?

 

[IDtenT]

Maybe the fact that he is also a serial rapist?

You're talking about in relation to Roguey here.

 

[tuluse]

Don't group South Park with Family Guy. Matt and Trey actually write jokes and don't just use pop culture references. If you don't find it funny, that's fine, but at least they try.

 

[Severian Silk]

Will wait for the game to go on sale. Not a huge South Park fan.

 

[waywardOne]

Don't group South Park with Family Guy. Matt and Trey actually write jokes and don't just use pop culture references. If you don't find it funny, that's fine, but at least they try.

Don't use pop culture? All they do now (since at least 05) is make fun of whatever's in the "news": scientology, the latest think-of-the-children protectionist law, pop music, etc. They suck on pop culture like a crackpipe.

 

[tuluse]

Don't group South Park with Family Guy. Matt and Trey actually write jokes and don't just use pop culture references. If you don't find it funny, that's fine, but at least they try.

Don't use pop culture? All they do now (since at least 05) is make fun of whatever's in the "news": scientology, the latest think-of-the-children protectionist law, pop music, etc. They suck on pop culture like a crackpipe.

I said they craft jokes and don't *just* use pop culture references. All the words I write mean something. You can't just pick which ones you want to read.

 

[waywardOne]

You said Family Guy only uses pop culture and has no jokes apart from that. I said that's all SP is. I think unless we're un-lazy enough to provide examples, this is futile.

 

[tuluse]

Just watch the trailer for the game and you see crafted jokes.

Cartman blowing a spaz because his mom called them druids, and when Kevin uses star trek terminology. These have set ups and punchlines, and the humor comes from the characters' natures.

 

[ohWOW]

Wait, so people really consider SP fun?

 

[waywardOne]

Just watch the trailer for the game and you see crafted jokes.

Cartman blowing a spaz because his mom called them druids, and when Kevin uses star trek terminology. These have set ups and punchlines, and the humor comes from the characters' natures.

But those are already recycled jokes of their own from years ago. It was funny the first time in the LotR episode. This is hardly the originality you're wanting to show.

For the record, I "like" both shows, but they're way too inconsistent in the entertainment value from show to show. I also think SP was funniest in its early years and the opposite for FG.

 

[tuluse]

I didn't make any claims on quality. Just that Matt and Trey continue to craft real jokes while Family Guy relies (almost) entirely on pop culture references and I want to add non-sequitors. You take those out of a Family Guy episode and you probably have ~30 seconds of show. You take those out of a South Park episode and you probably have ~12 minutes of show a lot of which is a boring plot.

 

[waywardOne]

Okay, but I don't see any difference. A typical current SP takes one hot pop topic and stretches it thinly over the entire episode. Are there random interjections during? Sure, but hardly hand-crafted jokes in the traditional exposition-setup-punchline meaning. The more they try to comment on the topic, generally, the worse the episode is as they try to tightrope between entertaining and proselytizing, and failing at both. SP is at its best when they just focus on kids being stupid and funny (like when the boys wanted the girls' future-predicting device).

FG is rarely tied in to any current event outside of the non-sequiturs. Basically any episode focusing on Brian and/or Stewie is completely detached from real life. Lois-centric shows are usually the equivalent of SP ones, where they try to show how stupid people are by mocking one side in a current topic, typically ending up preachy and unfunny.

 

[sser]

South Park doesn't get preachy, it's pretty self-aware of its own limits and makes fun of them constantly. Remember the giant poop episode? Where they took a floating Emmy graphic and picked it out of the screen and stuck it into a pillar of shit? There's nothing genuinely new or original about any show, everything has been done before. A lot of people like South Park because it is strong at delivering jokes in a lot of different ways and, at times, telling oddly compelling stories. Family Guy has started to grind on people because there is almost no difference between any average episode whatsoever and its creators very, very rarely go out on a limb when it comes to story -- probably one effect of working for Fox.

 

[Roguey]

I haven't seen it since the mid-2000s but I remember South Park could get very annoyingly preachy. Usually via speech in the last few minutes of an episode.