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Star Wars: The Old Republic will kill WoW

Discussion in 'MMO(RP)G / Online Discussion' started by Crispy, Dec 14, 2011.

  1. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    They can, but some are better than others at certain roles.
     
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  2. Popiel Arcane Patron

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    They can, but companions who are ranged by default are better healers than those that are melee by default. Ranged companions have healin' skills which do not require them to move to your character, by consequence they glitch less and are more effective. I think they only mitigated this with strictly post-KotFE companions,
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  3. Rean Instructor Patron

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    I miss the days when it actually mattered which companions you used, your influence with them and how you geared them. Vette was like a walking font of death with endgame gear.
     
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  4. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    I hated those days. It forced you into using a companion you did not like, which depending on your own spec was the healer most of the times for me. Fucking "woohoo Ima jedi!" Gus. :argh:
    Plus availability. Booty Hunters dominated the early servers, because they got their healing companion slapped in their faces 5 mins in. No downtime.
    Good luck playing a dps Jedi, when YOUR healer comes after Balmorra. I spent more time sitting than fighting. Or even kill your healing comp off in the beta. :hahano:
    Everyone and their mother ran with the ewok for a reason...

    Universial companions was a dumbing down decision I actually approved of. Although they went overboard with no gearing and influence being pretty much pointless.
    But whiny entitled brats bring in the money, gotta make it easy enough for them...
     
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  5. MadMaxHellfire Arcane

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    are you out of your mind? the dumb depressed imposter fish is a game changer, i wish i had him on every story because he's just too hilariously idiotic to pass.
     
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  6. Popiel Arcane Patron

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    So, I’m done with Bounty Hunter. ‘Cause of double XP event I even managed to drag her to 75 lvl, which made me laugh, I didn’t expect that. I already started Smuggler and went through Ord Mantell with her, but that’s for another time.

    BH gets a lot of hate (it’s consistently voted/ranked everywhere as the worst storyline, or shares this spot with Smuggler/Consular, last of which I don’t get at all, Consular is a stellar piece), and a lot of it is deserved. It’s a very mundane story with very low stakes up until the very, very end. It’s pretty much completely disconnected from TOR’s overarchin’ narrative. There are some bizarre choices when it comes to themes and plot. You’re supposedly just a random (but talented) bounty hunter who joins the Great Hunt to grab some fame and glory, but then you’re forced to become a Mandalorian and even though game doesn’t strongarm you to adopt all their prestige honour battle blah blah schtick your character still from time to time acts independently as if she did – and you can’t do anything ‘bout it. BH’s companion rooster is rather week, even though you get Gault and Blizz, who are at least funny in a good way. All the rest of them are pure vanilla, and I don’t take it well after already playin’ so many stories and meetin’ so many companions, most of them much better than fuckin’ Mako or, God forbid, Torian Shitorian the Mandalorian.

    Still, as usual with TOR, there were good things ‘bout this plotline. Act 3 gets interestin’. Darth Tormen is an entertainin’ fella. You get to meddle in some politics. Jun Seros was surprisingly decent. He was mostly an absentee antagonist, even more so than Darth Thanaton, but you always had a sense of bein’ pursued by him and his lackeys. A true sinister Jedi Master workin’ from the shadows and not afraid to get his hands dirty in service to the Republic – even though Ardun Kothe from the Agent story had much more screentime and was basically the same type of character, Seros still worked nicely for me. And then there’s the Chancellor, who only plays a role in this particular storyline, which is strange considerin’ that he’s theoretically more important than whole Dark Council combined. Still, he’s a goody two-shoes old grandpa, so I get why they guessed he won’t be as engagin’ as them all.

    BH is a nice class to play, in summary, but it’s nothing special and there’s way too much more good stuff in TOR to recommend it, save for one thing: BH plot is most definitely the first one chronologically, all others plots happen after it, so it might be good to know the big picture from where it begins.

    In the meantime I also finally finished Onslaught with my Consular main character. It’s quite a piece of shit to be honest, I completely don’t resonate with general TOR fanbase, which praises it for goin’ away from KotFE/KotET model – yet I enjoyed these two ones infinitely more than this OH MY GAWD PUB VS IMP WAR AGAIN WOOHOOO schlock.

    EDIT: Oh, one more thing. Skavak, a prologue villain for Smuggler, looks exactly like my Sith Warrior :lol: Quite an immersion breaker here.

    Stories ranked as of now: LS Warrior = LS Consular > LS/neutral Agent > DS Knight > LS/neutral Bounty Hunter > DS Inquisitor
     
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  7. Rean Instructor Patron

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    I only play Dark Side in SWTOR (apart from completing the original storyline as LS Knight) because I find the writing too twee and goody-two shoes with LS.

    I've done all the class stories and my ranking is as follows:

    DS Sith Warrior > DS Jedi Consular > DS Agent > DS Knight > DS Smuggler > DS Trooper > DS Bounty Hunter > DS Inquisitor > LS Knight

    Very similar to Popiel 's.

    I've completed all expansions with DS Warrior and DS Knight, going to attempt the same with my DS Bounty Hunter only because I want to execute people in the expansions by shooting them with my blaster pistol, and I'm curious to see how they do the force user battles with the Bounty Hunter.

    Also, I've seen The Mandalorian recently and want to play a Mandalorian for a bit (but Star Wars: Bounty Hunter was the best game about Mandos).
     
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  8. Popiel Arcane Patron

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    My plan is to eventually, in the future when I get extremely bored, run counterparts of each of my main cast of characters, or at least of the main ones (which I consider to be Force-users + Agent). My main Knight is Dark Side (and male), so I’ll be goin’ Light Side (female), main Warrior is Light Side – so aforementioned run will be Dark Side (and, again, female). I already have some of these mirror characters made. First one I created was a female Miraluka Consular (Shadow spec) – chiefly ‘cause I don’t believe that DS story of Consular will work under any circumstances, so I'm most curious. It’s made for a LS run. How would you judge that, how does that even work? Consular plotline is a very strong piece IMHO precisely ‘cause it seems to be suited for one particular style (LS), which allowed writers to focus on content and not on divergent paths instead (writers for Warrior especially needed to consider those, and they did brilliantly IMHO).
     
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  9. Rean Instructor Patron

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    Same. I already did it with LS male JK / DS female JK, want to ultimately experience all class stories with both because I think every class story has good reactivity with LS and DS choices.

    The DS Consular story is actually the best DS story apart from Warrior because you travel the galaxy executing the plagued Jedi instead of saving them. Basically you play either a psychotic cunt (classic KOTOR DS) or a powermad cunt who wants to take power on the Council. I found it to be one of the most fun experiences I’ve ever had in a SW game because of how unexpected your behaviour is to those around you.
     
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  10. Rean Instructor Patron

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    That said, you should play DS Consular as a female, the male voice actor is boring as hell but the female voice actor is great with DS dialogue.
     
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  11. Popiel Arcane Patron

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    My main character is a LS Consular male and, well, agree to disagree. Nolan North is great for LS Consular IMHO, has this wise master feelin' to him, and he does polite smugness very well if you want that. Don't know 'bout his DS performance though.
     
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    LS Warrior is the best deal. They did a great job allowing you a pragmatic approach without looking like a weak pussy. :obviously:
    I did have a soft spot for my DS Sorc tho. The story crumbled halfway in, but her malkavian charme kept me going, until she rightfully became collocoid empress. :hug:
    She simply had the best lines.

    Yeah, booty hunter's lineup was pretty weak aside from the comedy value. Especially the dark and egdy fag... Torian?
    At least that made the "choice" later hillarious.
    Game: "You can only rescue Vette or Torian, the other will die! Chose wis-
    Pretty much every player: "Vette. Kthxbye."

    Torian, Koth and Theron are prime examples how Bioware's writers are all dreamy eyes over a character aimed at female players, who just end up getting killed by most players.:hahano:
     
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  13. Commissar Draco Codexia Comrade Colonel Commissar Patron

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    Yes my wife hated so much the Card and Disciple so much she played as male Raven/Disciple, the men got the three prime ladies in KOTOR II to choose, the Blind Sith with BDSM kink, the Mandalorian wanabe - who unlike current year strong independent wombyn is kind of cute when you get to know her better and f... ing Kreia daughter the wombyn got only Atton who according to my wifu words: Is kinda hot in rougue way when hardened and f... ing disciple who can bore you to death.
     
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    Speaking of waifus, did anyone here actually keep Lana? I ended up ditching her with EVERY toon in the end. Made me feel a bit of an asshole going from "let's marry" to "I knew I was just a stand in until your love returned" at least 7 times, despite vowing "this char will keep her" every time... :cry:

    On paper she would probably the best match for half of my toons, but there was nothing about her that rustled my jimmies...
    Her model went from horrible to just "meh", and her voice was an emotionless robot.
    I even picked Khem over her, because him wanting to eat my sorc or smth was too hillarious to pass on. Sad.
     
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    Lana is nice.

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    The only proper waifu for a Sith is POWER! UNLIMITED POWER! Why would you pick Anal Kenobi?
     
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    Why would you pick any waifu, especially as an Inquisitor when you have Xalek and Khem Val available?
     
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    Speaking of wifus I picked Ensign Temple ( I know she is not of glorious and :obviously: Hiss race but she digs at least the culture and is not treacherous and slut like the rataka whore you get earlier) as Warrior bred with this ex Jedi chick (totally bimbo but with at least good genes) and as Bounty Hunter stuck to Mako... cause this girl from hood appeal.

    Oh I did got a bit onto Republicuck soldier... picked the soldier chick? Dunno cant remember this class was dull and stopped to play it when it forced me to rescue somebody I did not cared a bit literally had one option in this quest, to brake ceasfire with Empire to rescue some alien shit who deserted his post... cause you can't RP here as Republican sympathizer to Empire or strick disciplinarian for (((some)) reason. :decline:
     
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    Talkin' 'bout romances in this game in more than 3 words: :prosper:
     
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    Got some cartel coins since I'm using the 2FA, bought a stronghold piece with it and then realized it's too big for where I wanted to place it :negative:. Why did they use the same color for both size of hook:argh:?
     
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    i played my dark side agent up to *that point* only to do *that thing*. probably the best the whole game has to offer.

    you say that because you're the king of guy ghosted by npcs too.
     
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  22. Popiel Arcane Patron

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    How could you tell.
     
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    Hey, no slutshaming Kaliyo! She was such a refreshing break from the usual Bioware waifus that always follow the same concept. Kal does not give two fucks, you follow HER around and she uses you as she pleases. :hahano:
    And she helped me get rid of Koth.
    All the butthurt from players who felt threatened in their manliness by her was just the icing on the cake.

    "You and me agent, you and me." :obviously:


    My agent was a womyn tho, so I didn't have to worry if bakta tanks can cure spez STDs...
     
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    probably misquoting: "i demand from my men only to obey my word as it was god's".
    baldie must hang.
     
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