Starfield Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Wilian]

AMD Radeon RX 5700, NVIDIA GeForce 1070 Ti as minimum specs, for something that mostly looks like a xbox 360 game.

Dude, 1070 is 7 year old card. It's time to get over it.

 

[Yosharian]

I will get the game on pc. So the fps problem dosn't really bother me. I am quite impressed with what i saw.

You do realise that if it's running at 30 FPS on consoles then it's probably just optimized like shit, and will therefore run like a turd on PC too, right?

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

I will get the game on pc. So the fps problem dosn't really bother me. I am quite impressed with what i saw.

You do realise that if it's running at 30 FPS on consoles then it's probably just optimized like shit, and will therefore run like a turd on PC too, right?

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor
DeepcoolLT720 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX ATX AM5 Motherboard
Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5200 CL40 Memory
Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card
Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

I am not concerned. Also Consoles are generally low in term of hardware.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

This was always going to be 30 frames.

Most pc fags are in for a shock as well when they see the requirements.

You sell new expensive GPUs by making super good looking games everyone wants to play or by releasing super hyped terribly optimized games everyone wants to play. 2nd type costs less to make. And then you get a bit of action from those overpriced GPUs

Asset density and quality seems pretty high from what I've seen. Clean AA implementation. Plenty use of tessellation which is always a pleasure.

This is all just spazzing out because it's a bethesderp game. Overcompensating for the hype. We go through this every time.

I have a feeling the 'planets' are simply going to be a squared off skybox and their version of a Skyrim dungeon.

 

[Mortmal]

AMD Radeon RX 5700, NVIDIA GeForce 1070 Ti as minimum specs, for something that mostly looks like a xbox 360 game.

Dude, 1070 is 7 year old card. It's time to get over it.

5700 is 2019 only , brand new...

 

[Mortmal]

I will get the game on pc. So the fps problem dosn't really bother me. I am quite impressed with what i saw.

You do realise that if it's running at 30 FPS on consoles then it's probably just optimized like shit, and will therefore run like a turd on PC too, right?

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor
DeepcoolLT720 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX ATX AM5 Motherboard
Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5200 CL40 Memory
Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card
Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

I am not concerned. Also Consoles are generally low in term of hardware.

So with a bit of luck , unchecking some options you may be running starfield on 1080p at 60fps.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

I will get the game on pc. So the fps problem dosn't really bother me. I am quite impressed with what i saw.

You do realise that if it's running at 30 FPS on consoles then it's probably just optimized like shit, and will therefore run like a turd on PC too, right?

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor
DeepcoolLT720 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX ATX AM5 Motherboard
Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5200 CL40 Memory
Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card
Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

I am not concerned. Also Consoles are generally low in term of hardware.

So with a bit of luck , unchecking some options you may be running starfield on 1080p at 60fps.

Oh come on now lol. I hope that was a joke.

 

[Mortmal]

If its dogshit optimization and 30 fps on consoles , then it might not be a joke.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

If its dogshit optimization and 30 fps on consoles , then it might not be a joke.

Bad optimization on console dosn't usually affect PC. Consoles have by default outdated hardware.

 

[Readher]

That's the caliber of developers we're dealing with now, huh.
And you people wonder why I call devs scum.

Whatever you think about your average game dev in a programming position, it's likely much worse.

On two separate occasions where the originally contracted team had essentially stated it was impossible to increase the performance any further, Peter was able to optimize the titles significantly with barely any support or additional tools. I was impressed by his professionalism and responsiveness.

https://www.ph3.at/en/about.html

One skilled person outclassed two separate teams which claimed something was impossible. Industry isn't willing to pay what good software engineers cost (and provide good working conditions), so they're staffed with failures and fresh graduates who are unfit for working on complex AAA games.

 

[Mortmal]

If its dogshit optimization and 30 fps on consoles , then it might not be a joke.

Bad optimization on console dosn't usually affect PC. Consoles have by default outdated hardware.

Well the xbox is like 12 terraflops , completely shitty compare to a late nivdia card which is 81 terraflops . Shitty shitty console indeed, but do you remember how games were looking on a simple PS2 which was a simple 1gigaflop, not terra, of power. Does games looks 12000X better now ? I dont think so.
Ok the PS2 is old , lets look at skyrim working really well on a xbox 360, only 240 gigaflops . Does Starfield looks 50X better than skyrim ? Dont think so either, i genuinely doesnt see something jaw dropping there.
Optimization > hardware , devs got lazy and that hardware consume too much power, raise the bill and heat my room, its already 27°c right now fuuuck...
*Yells at cloud*

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

If its dogshit optimization and 30 fps on consoles , then it might not be a joke.

Bad optimization on console dosn't usually affect PC. Consoles have by default outdated hardware.

Well the xbox is like 12 terraflops , completely shitty compare to a late nivdia card which is 81 terraflops . Shitty shitty console indeed, but do you remember how games were looking on a simple PS2 which was a simple 1gigaflop, not terra, of power. Does games looks 12000X better now ? I dont think so.
Ok the PS2 is old , lets look at skyrim working really well on a xbox 360, only 240 gigaflops . Does Starfield looks 50X better than skyrim ? Dont think so either, i genuinely doesnt soemthing jaw dropping there.
Optimization > hardware , devs got lazy and that hardware consume too much power, raise the bill and heat my room, its already 27°c right now fuuuck...
*Yells at cloud*

Sorry but yes... Starfield looks way better than skyrim. And not only in post processing but also in cluttering specular maps overall models and textures. Does look top notch graphics? Not of course not. But they are also different games to start with. Starfield has a lot of features as it stands that skyrim dosn't like procedurally generated terrain. And a lot of other things.

Say it looks like skyrim is to say something completely insane. Starfield looks way better even better than the skyrim special edition. If i wish to speculate is that this game is more CPU intensive than GPU intensive. This is why at 4k is capped at 30fps in consoles.

But again in consoles. The whole point of console is pricing. So you have machine that are sold brand new with outdated hardware. Even when a console is just released usually the hardware is already outdated.

The only cases wich a game that works well on console works bad on pc are the bad ports. But there is no reason why if a game runs worse on console should run even worse on PC.

There are far many example of even unoptimized games that runs bad in console and way better on pc even being unoptimize.

Conan exiles for istance is one.

You can't just write Optimization>Hardware as Optimization relies on hardware to start with. If you have bad hardware dosn't matter how much your game is optimized you will always hit bottlenecks.

 

[tritosine2k]

If its dogshit optimization and 30 fps on consoles , then it might not be a joke.

Bad optimization on console dosn't usually affect PC. Consoles have by default outdated hardware.

Well the xbox is like 12 terraflops , completely shitty compare to a late nivdia card which is 81 terraflops . (...)

Doesn't really matter if both have TAA/DLSS and that means all shading+geometry is undersampled garbage ( =shit in shit out). The better the display the more obviously, and that means displays suck too.

Apple headset with eye tracking and sub 10 tf is ULTRA eloquent compared to this stuff.

 

[Bendu]

Gonna be honest. On the one hand this seems like the most interesting game from Bethesda Game Studios since Morrowind. Settings looks interesting, I like the art design and exploring the universe with your own spaceship and crew will be probably intriguing. And since this is a new IP, I'm okey with their character system. But it's still a game from BGS, so story, story telling, characters and C&C will probably suck.

 

[Stavrophore]

One of leaked concept art showing easter egg small critter:

 

[Zariusz]

One of leaked concept art showing easter egg small critter:

Toad Howard

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Gonna be honest. On the one hand this seems like the most interesting game from Bethesda Game Studios since Morrowind. Settings looks interesting, I like the art design and exploring the universe with your own spaceship and crew will be probably intriguing. And since this is a new IP, I'm okey with their character system. But it's still a game from BGS, so story, story telling, characters and C&C will probably suck.

More or less my feelings about it.
On a superficial level pretty much anything about it is appealing to me. I like the aesthetic they went for, I like the setting, the vibe, the ideas and possibilities they are offering and the gameplay they showed so far doesn't even look half bad, especially by their standards (and good fucking riddance, retarded VATS).
My main skepticism comes from the fact that they are... Well, who they are. BGS never really NAILED a game for me, so far. And yes, I mean not even Morrowind or Daggerfall, which were also cases of "Some good and some bad, but mostly bad".

 

[Wilian]

AMD Radeon RX 5700, NVIDIA GeForce 1070 Ti as minimum specs, for something that mostly looks like a xbox 360 game.

Dude, 1070 is 7 year old card. It's time to get over it.

5700 is 2019 only , brand new...

Oh my bad. I had no memory AMD was SO behind the curve still at the time.

 

[Old Hans]

Gonna be honest. On the one hand this seems like the most interesting game from Bethesda Game Studios since Morrowind. Settings looks interesting, I like the art design and exploring the universe with your own spaceship and crew will be probably intriguing. And since this is a new IP, I'm okey with their character system. But it's still a game from BGS, so story, story telling, characters and C&C will probably suck.

I thought this was me for a second.

 

[lycanwarrior]

If its dogshit optimization and 30 fps on consoles , then it might not be a joke.

Bad optimization on console dosn't usually affect PC. Consoles have by default outdated hardware.

Well the xbox is like 12 terraflops , completely shitty compare to a late nivdia card which is 81 terraflops . Shitty shitty console indeed, but do you remember how games were looking on a simple PS2 which was a simple 1gigaflop, not terra, of power. Does games looks 12000X better now ? I dont think so.
Ok the PS2 is old , lets look at skyrim working really well on a xbox 360, only 240 gigaflops . Does Starfield looks 50X better than skyrim ? Dont think so either, i genuinely doesnt see something jaw dropping there.
Optimization > hardware , devs got lazy and that hardware consume too much power, raise the bill and heat my room, its already 27°c right now fuuuck...
*Yells at cloud*

Optimization takes a lot of resources (time and money), which might not always return a positive ROI.

 

[EvilWolf]

AMD Radeon RX 5700, NVIDIA GeForce 1070 Ti as minimum specs, for something that mostly looks like a xbox 360 game.

Dude, 1070 is 7 year old card. It's time to get over it.

The 1000 series is the best series nvidia ever put out, they thought AMD was going to blow them out of the water that generation and they poured everything into it. The 4000 series equivilents make marginal improvements at best, especially for the price. Once you realize RTX is a meme for lazy developers to skimp on doing good lighting and that it's useless without DLSS (which unless you game from your couch is a washed out mess) it becomes obvious that you get far more out of a 1000 series card.

 

[quixotic]

If you go over the trailer with a fine tooth comb there’s a lot of questionable shit in it. Like the fact that your ship’s interior isn’t loaded with the planet, you have to switch cells and go through a loading screen everytime you want to go back into your ship.
So you have a loading screen when you fast travel back to your ship, and ANOTHER loading screen to go INSIDE your ship.

 

[ColaWerewolf]

If you go over the trailer with a fine tooth comb there’s a lot of questionable shit in it. Like the fact that your ship’s interior isn’t loaded with the planet, you have to switch cells and go through a loading screen everytime you want to go back into your ship.
So you have a loading screen when you fast travel back to your ship, and ANOTHER loading screen to go INSIDE your ship.

Unless I'm mistaken, they haven't specifically shown the fast travel system in action. It's very likely that you'll have the option to fast travel directly inside your ship.

 

[Akachi]

If you go over the trailer with a fine tooth comb there’s a lot of questionable shit in it. Like the fact that your ship’s interior isn’t loaded with the planet, you have to switch cells and go through a loading screen everytime you want to go back into your ship.
So you have a loading screen when you fast travel back to your ship, and ANOTHER loading screen to go INSIDE your ship.

Remember when SSDs practically removed loading screens or reduced them to a few seconds? I'm so glad we have such fast technology, that way they could make them a hardware requirement and make use of the insane speed to give us loading screens again and take us right back to where we started.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

If you go over the trailer with a fine tooth comb there’s a lot of questionable shit in it. Like the fact that your ship’s interior isn’t loaded with the planet, you have to switch cells and go through a loading screen everytime you want to go back into your ship.
So you have a loading screen when you fast travel back to your ship, and ANOTHER loading screen to go INSIDE your ship.

Unless I'm mistaken, they haven't specifically shown the fast travel system in action. It's very likely that you'll have the option to fast travel directly inside your ship.

They actually did. The moment your ship take flight there is a tiny scene playing. It is most likely then when you get teleported you will get teleported outside in front of your ship. And when you interact with the door inside the hangar will load up and you will find yourself inside the ship. Wich is something i don't mind. Seems like to be sort of an hub based system they said terrain is often procedurally generated and mixed with handcrafted point of interest.

What really makes me lol is that some people thinks "OMG if it runs 30 fps 4k on console must be run terrible on pc" wich is a peasant take.

Even skyrim run terrible on console and great on pc. There is absolutely nothing in hardware level that a console does better than a pc.