Suikoden I&II HD Remaster Gate Rune and Dunan Unification Wars

[jungl]

Remaster looks good. Suikoden 1+2 look like dogshit. Modified rpgmaker 95 visually.
First game is relatively short and fun the second game is a slog with shit encounter design like the 6 man soldier and the reused boss+story elements from the first game.

 

[laclongquan]

CRT games are for the blind~ Never looking back, not even with fake-emulation.

Back to topic, They do look good. At least, much better than the original, graphic-wise. Just dont do full 1920x1080 rez and you will be fine~

 

[mediocrepoet]

Remaster looks good. Suikoden 1+2 look like dogshit. Modified rpgmaker 95 visually.
First game is relatively short and fun the second game is a slog with shit encounter design like the 6 man soldier and the reused boss+story elements from the first game.

This is funny, I'd have basically said the opposite. The second game is basically the first game but improved, so you could just skip the first one.

Besides, the second one has that awesome cooking minigame and Gabocha!

Don't you diss Gabocha. I will fight you!

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

The first Suikoden was the best. It was 15 hours long and felt like a weighty war epic. Lots of major character deaths. When you escaped from the crumbling castle and the montage of all of the character endings played with the mournful music playing, it felt like a lot had happened. There was a lot of sacrifice and loss to change things.

S2 is technically better (no more inventory micromanagement issues, better balance, better art, etc). However, Suikoden II was a 40 hour long game but only like 2 guys died, so when the ending montage plays you realize that pretty much everybody survived and lived happily ever after. It also retconned a couple character deaths from S1. It feels like the series got tamer as it went on. Then you reach S3 which was 65 hours long and literally only one guy died (during the first 5 hours) and you probably didn't like him either. The games got increasingly bloated but it felt like less and less happened. S5 killed more people off again but that game didn't feel weighty like S1 did.

 

[jungl]

butler bro> joffrey and nanami

 

[Terra]

Seems they've added diagonal movement and new sprites for it too.

 

[Bigg Boss]

I will probably pick this up so I do not need to play the PS4 or emulate it. Never played the og much so it might not bug me if the sprites are shit.

 

[somerandomdude]

Am I a terrible human being for laughing during the "Die Pig!" cutscene in Suikoden 2?

 

[Jermu]

It is one of the most memorable scenes in Suikoden 2
Luca best villain

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

I found Windy to be more intimidating than him, being a wicked woman who has bewitched the king and took over the kingdom, sicced the armies on the heroes, and relentlessly pursued Ted for hundreds of years. The villain of 3 was intriguing but sadly that game felt really unfinished and the exposition dump at the end was incoherent.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I was always bummed that they didn't release an expanded stand alone version of the cooking game.

 

[Ysaye]

Apparently they brought the original artist back (Junko Kawano) to redo/touch up the artwork in this.

 

[arekks]

See the power of the science!​

 

[Nifft Batuff]

99% of these remasters put the graphics in an uncanny valley. It's better to play the originals, where the chosen graphics style makes sense and it is consistent. And, if you need other modern QoL features, you already have them when you use emulators.

 

[Rahdulan]

Well shit.
https://www.rpgsite.net/news/14712-...nd-dunan-unification-wars-delayed-out-of-2023

 

[Terra]

Better than releasing another Konami botch job, like the Silent Hill "HD" collection. So long as the end result is great, I can wait. Not like I haven't played these games untold times in the past.

 

[flyingjohn]

Better than releasing another Konami botch job

The delay was probably Konami finding a even cheaper port studio.

 

[AlwaysBrotoMen]

Suikoden games do not have brothels . If so it would be considered one of the greatest on par with Witcher 3

 

[mediocrepoet]

Suikoden II is worth playing just for the cooking minigame. Or at least that's how I felt back in the day on the PSX. Mobile gaming may have changed that now.

 

[Late Bloomer]

Suikoden II is worth playing just for the cooking minigame. Or at least that's how I felt back in the day on the PSX. Mobile gaming may have changed that now.

Holy shit dude... your avatar.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Suikoden II is worth playing just for the cooking minigame. Or at least that's how I felt back in the day on the PSX. Mobile gaming may have changed that now.

Holy shit dude... your avatar.

I like yours too. Very Vault Boy takes a pee or something.

 

[Rahdulan]

Suikoden II is worth playing just for the cooking minigame. Or at least that's how I felt back in the day on the PSX. Mobile gaming may have changed that now.

It kills me that cook-off minigame is actually limited by its own storyline rather than being infinitely replayable with randomly chosen judges and opponents.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Suikoden II is worth playing just for the cooking minigame. Or at least that's how I felt back in the day on the PSX. Mobile gaming may have changed that now.

It kills me that cook-off minigame is actually limited by its own storyline rather than being infinitely replayable with randomly chosen judges and opponents.

500%, I was so bummed when it ended, I wanted to replay it just to make more sweet omelets and stuff.

 

[Thorakitai]

The first Suikoden was the best. It was 15 hours long and felt like a weighty war epic. Lots of major character deaths. When you escaped from the crumbling castle and the montage of all of the character endings played with the mournful music playing, it felt like a lot had happened. There was a lot of sacrifice and loss to change things.

S2 is technically better (no more inventory micromanagement issues, better balance, better art, etc). However, Suikoden II was a 40 hour long game but only like 2 guys died, so when the ending montage plays you realize that pretty much everybody survived and lived happily ever after. It also retconned a couple character deaths from S1. It feels like the series got tamer as it went on. Then you reach S3 which was 65 hours long and literally only one guy died (during the first 5 hours) and you probably didn't like him either. The games got increasingly bloated but it felt like less and less happened. S5 killed more people off again but that game didn't feel weighty like S1 did.

Calling Suikoden II "tame" is rich when you have Luca Blight and his onscreen antics of butchering civilians, a certain traitor's decisive actions (Assassination, Helping Luca Blight capture fleeing refugees, him capturing a city with a deceptive tactic that involves releasing capture soldiers, so that the city's supply is depleted faster and the soldiers and the citizens fight each other) and lore regarding the City States of Jowston and the Kingdom of Highland is rather grim.

Sure, the main characters suffered less deaths but the nations are devastated as hell by the war.

 

[Vyadhis]

The first Suikoden was the best. It was 15 hours long and felt like a weighty war epic. Lots of major character deaths. When you escaped from the crumbling castle and the montage of all of the character endings played with the mournful music playing, it felt like a lot had happened. There was a lot of sacrifice and loss to change things.

S2 is technically better (no more inventory micromanagement issues, better balance, better art, etc). However, Suikoden II was a 40 hour long game but only like 2 guys died, so when the ending montage plays you realize that pretty much everybody survived and lived happily ever after. It also retconned a couple character deaths from S1. It feels like the series got tamer as it went on. Then you reach S3 which was 65 hours long and literally only one guy died (during the first 5 hours) and you probably didn't like him either. The games got increasingly bloated but it felt like less and less happened. S5 killed more people off again but that game didn't feel weighty like S1 did.

Is this from a recorded VHS or crt royale.s video? Looks excellent either way.