SureAI's new project: Enderal - The Shards of Order (Mostly about Enderal SE now)

[Ivan]

resuming my playthru, how far are you Fluent? Did you make it to Ark yet?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

What's the consensus on this? Worth playing?

 

[Popiel]

What's the consensus on this? Worth playing?

No.

That it's essentially Skyrim in highly elaborate disguise just drags it down and down.

 

[LizardWizard]

What's the consensus on this? Worth playing?

No.

That it's essentially Skyrim in highly elaborate disguise just drags it down and down.

That's like saying New Vegas isn't worth playing because Fallout 3 was irredeemable shit.

 

[Salvo]

What's the consensus on this? Worth playing?

It's (obviously) miles better than Skyrim. The krauts certainly poured their love in while crafting the mod, and it shows. Atmosphere and exploration are top notch, with static enemies and hand-placed loot to find, ala Gothic.

Story is ok, functional but nothing special. Unfortunately combat is Skyrim's, although revamped and with a gothic-like system where you get points to spend (skills don't grow with use), which means it's kinda bad.

 

[Popiel]

That's like saying New Vegas isn't worth playing because Fallout 3 was irredeemable shit.

Funny thing is, that's almost true. If Enderal was as good when compared to Skyrim as New Vegas is relatively to Fallout 3 than yes, I would recommend. It’s not as excellent however.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Quality is a lot higher than I expected it to be so far.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I have no idea how a handful of people made this for free.
I spent hours just wandering around Ark interacting with stuff then remembered there's an entire world outside of Ark.
For the people that hate the combat I suggest going a phasmalist/entropy build and focusing on summons.

Spoiler

phasmalist/sinistrope(entropy) is one of the 'hidden' classes

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

resuming my playthru, how far are you Fluent? Did you make it to Ark yet?

I missed this post somehow. I made it to Ark and beyond. Great game. I went through some really weird quests last time I played. Still have my save to load up when I feel like gaming again.

 

[Arnust]

Huh? Neither are actually hidden, you do get some stat boosts and a skill at level 10 of both trees as an "Affinity" though. Really I can't think of any playstyle beyond probably archery being mostly unarguably boring, and even then there's some wild Affinity results from it. Really liked Duel Wield because of being a melee glass cannon all about using attack speed and crit in opportunity rather than unga bunga smash.

And yeah, second playthrough for the Steam release trying to see most of it really shows the pretty amazing scope there is. It really helps there's no or almost no reused dungeons, so exploring is always gonna feel meaningful.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

And yeah, second playthrough for the Steam release trying to see most of it really shows the pretty amazing scope there is. It really helps there's no or almost no reused dungeons, so exploring is always gonna feel meaningful.

I really don't understand how they had the manpower to make so much content. I walk five feet and stumble upon an entirely new dungeon unexpectedly. A guy mentioned he had rats in his attic so I went to check it out, killed some rats and started to look around. Realized I could jump on the haystacks to get up higher and found a ladder exit into a crawlspace where I eventually fell down into a dungeon full of vatyrs.

Huh? Neither are actually hidden, you do get some stat boosts and a skill at level 10 of both trees as an "Affinity" though.

They're intended to be "hidden"(loading screen tips even suggest as much), you can figure out the combinations from reading various books in the game.

 

[DeepOcean]

There was supposedly to be an expansion for this mod, was it released already?

 

[Arnust]

They're intended to be "hidden"(loading screen tips even suggest as much), you can figure out the combinations from reading various books in the game.

Oooh, you were being literal by alluding to the affinity already. My bad.

I really don't understand how they had the manpower to make so much content. I walk five feet and stumble upon an entirely new dungeon unexpectedly. A guy mentioned he had rats in his attic so I went to check it out, killed some rats and started to look around. Realized I could jump on the haystacks to get up higher and found a ladder exit into a crawlspace where I eventually fell down into a dungeon full of vatyrs

I think one of the things that helped was to have so much non-quest related stuff. Sometimes to a fault, as Forgotten Stories did give quests to places where one almost felt missing, but for the most part there's so much stuff that's "just" a cool place to see. Then again, the attention to detail either way doesn't give much grounds to that idea. Hell, there's even an extra part after the tutorial dungeon if you take a hard right hugging the wall with a pretty non insignificant platforming and spider gauntlet, as soon as possible. It's always a curious feeling when you know that there's no way the entirety of the game will be known and mapped.

 

[The_Sloth_Sleeps]

This mod is an INCREDIBLE effort and ATM I am just letting it all sink in. Far better than the original Skyrim of course. I'm staggered by how much detail is in the world (compared to Skyrim).
The quests are pretty decent so far as well. I don't know if I'm a fan of the lore and world as such, but I don't think anyone can afford to be that picky - its been great so far.

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

Yeah, it's incredible. I urge you guys to play Nehrim sometime too, if you can still stomach the Oblivion engine. Nehrim is super good as well, one of the best ever IMO.

 

[HoboForEternity]

i want to try it but i dont have skyrim in my steam. i could ask my cousin for library sharing again tho

 

[Gorn]

What's the consensus on this? Worth playing?

It's good for the wandering around and exploring. The bad:
1) Melee mobs can't handle Y-axis
2) Most dungeons end up following the same pattern

I remember not finishing it but it was fun until it wasn't

 

[Gord]

There was supposedly to be an expansion for this mod, was it released already?

The standalone Steam Release includes it - actually the Steam Version ist required to play it afaik.

 

[MediantSamuel]

I liked it a lot, played maybe 20 hours. The main story was pretty good until I got bored about halfway through. I liked how it subverted my expectations a few times. "Fun until it wasn't" is a pretty good summary of it. I was also expecting more side quests but it seems I did the larger half dozen or so.

Better than Skyrim, but it still has Skyrim's sleep inducing combat, so. At least the npcs are more interesting to talk to.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I liked it a lot, played maybe 20 hours. The main story was pretty good until I got bored about halfway through.

I'm 40 hours in and have completed like 4 parts of the main quest, a handful of sidequests, and have most of the map unexplored

 

[MediantSamuel]

I liked it a lot, played maybe 20 hours. The main story was pretty good until I got bored about halfway through.

I'm 40 hours in and have completed like 4 parts of the main quest, a handful of sidequests, and have most of the map unexplored

... Apparently I played 42.6 hours, whoops.

 

[Biscotti]

Did the expansion add any new towns? I remember playing the original mod, hearing and reading about a bunch of different towns and cities, only to find out pretty much all of them were in ruins or deserted. IIRC, basically only Riverville and Ark were fleshed out. I vaguely recall some town in the desert that I was excited to visit, only to be extremely bummed out upon discovering it's completely devoid of content, and just has a bunch of generic no-name NPCs roaming around.

Still a great mod though, I'm not gonna complain about some parts of the world feeling a bit unfinished and empty when the game is already jam packed with quality content churned out by a couple of Germans in their free time.

 

[Urthor]

Did the expansion add any new towns? I remember playing the original mod, hearing and reading about a bunch of different towns and cities, only to find out pretty much all of them were in ruins or deserted. IIRC, basically only Riverville and Ark were fleshed out. I vaguely recall some town in the desert that I was excited to visit, only to be extremely bummed out upon discovering it's completely devoid of content, and just has a bunch of generic no-name NPCs roaming around.

Still a great mod though, I'm not gonna complain about some parts of the world feeling a bit unfinished and empty when the game is already jam packed with quality content churned out by a couple of Germans in their free time.

it added a ton to the Undercity. Not much outside of the main hub

 

[Biscotti]

That's a shame. I liked wandering around the Undercity though, so I'll take what I can get.

 

[Kaethar]

Been playing this game a lot, it's proper. Even random locations like, for example, Powder Cliff are interesting to explore because the game gets you interested in the events of the area.
I agree with some parts of the game not feeling fleshed out though, Ark, Undercity and Riverville all feel a million times more lively than Duneville (even though it's such a great concept for a city) since there's like 5 NPC's in there that actually talk (that side quest from the alchemist was really funny though). I still need to expore the Frostcliff Mountains since I've only visited the tavern, hope they did some cool stuff with that area.