NWN The Blades of Netheril: Doom of Icewind Dale - NWN1 OC sequel DLC from Ossian's Luke Scull

[Crispy]

Thanks for the reply, but, no offense, I don't think you read my previous posts very carefully (which is understandable). TonyK isn't working in anything, even the OC, no matter what I try. And there are multiple reports out there saying the same thing.

I suspect it's an update to EE that occurred relatively recently (within the last couple of years, maybe) which has made TonyK completely incompatible with it, but Lacrymas may have his Steam settings or at least his NWNEE installation configured never to update.

 

[Lacrymas]

I have the latest update, but I'm using the GOG version, so that might be why it's working for me. Did you try booting up HotU to see whether it works there? Also, there is a "modify mod" button in the NIT when you click on TonyK's in the upper right corner of the window. Can you try clicking that to see if it changes anything?

 

[Gargaune]

Thanks for the reply, but, no offense, I don't think you read my previous posts very carefully (which is understandable). TonyK isn't working in anything, even the OC, no matter what I try. And there are multiple reports out there saying the same thing.

Oh, my bad. I would suggest you double-check your installation, I had a skim and didn't see an "override version" that you mentioned you installed. Just to be sure - your NWN Override folder only takes loose files, you can't put haks or subfolders in there.

I'd suggest trying again step by step:
1) Completely uninstall TonyK from NIT and/or Override or whatever else you used.
2) Go to this link and download the NIT .hak version, extract the .7z.
3) Don't use NIT, instead go into its /patch/ folder and copy all of those .hak files into your respective user path (/Documents/Neverwinter Nights/patch/).
4) Now open /Documents/Neverwinter Nights/userpatch.ini and manually register *all* of those .hak files, a line for each.
5) Also double-check that your /Documents/Neverwinter Nights/nwn.ini has the PATCH path set to */Documents/Neverwinter Nights/patch/.

Now you can start the game and check again with an OC and maybe a HotU henchman against the dialogue Lacrymas said should be there (if you start HotU, Deekin's just an intro and two combat encounters away). If it's still not working and you just don't wanna give up, you can also try the brute force approach - back up your Override folder, clear it out, then use /Neverwinter Nights Enhanced Edition/bin/win32/nwhak.exe or Tanita's NWN2Packer to extract all the content from all of those TonyK haks you downloaded into your Override.


P.S. The mod's description says it includes a bunch of optional components like Reborn UI integration, you'll have to figure out what's what later, just try to get the maximal install working at this point.

 

[Crispy]

Or, to save me further slipping into insanity, someone else who's ready to give up on DoIWD for its major deficiencies like I have can try to modify it.

I've gone back to Swordflight chapter 2.

 

[rogueknight333]

.... I've gone back to Swordflight chapter 2.

Just FYI, in case you have not given up on it completely, you do not want to use TonyK's AI in conjunction with Swordflight. It is known to cause issues.

 

[Lacrymas]

You shouldn't use TonyK's in Reptile God either because it causes at least 2 known issues, one of them gamebreaking.

 

[Crispy]

I think that settles it. Luke, can I have my money back?

 

[Lacrymas]

This thread deflated pretty fast. Where is Luke Scull to answer questions and interact with one of the few communities who still care about NWN and what he puts out? Seems strange to me, especially since this is planned to be 7 parts, you'd think he'd be more excited about it.

 

[notpl]

The thread deflated pretty fast because the module is really boring, sadly. I don't have much else to say beyond that. I've already given up on it and started going through other well-regarded ones.

 

[Turn_BASED]

The thread deflated pretty fast because the module is really boring, sadly. I don't have much else to say beyond that. I've already given up on it and started going through other well-regarded ones.

Same. Sad!

 

[GloomFrost]

The thread deflated pretty fast because the module is really boring, sadly. I don't have much else to say beyond that. I've already given up on it and started going through other well-regarded ones.

The module is not bad. We never get enough "wintery" RPGs anyway. Its just the fact that paid module is not as good as some completely free campaigns, that is the problem. And sure as hell its not nearly on the same level as such masterpieces as Darkness over Dagefford, Swordflight or Reptile God. I don't feel sorry that I spent money on it but expected way more.

 

[luj1]

I'm playing Siege of Shadowdale EE right now (his other module) and it's not nearly on the same level as Reptile God or Swordflight, it's quite sloppy and unpolished

 

[Crispy]

What rogueknight333 seems to really excel at is innovation using the NWN construction kit (whatever it's called) in unique and creative ways. I've said this already before, but the attention to detail is apparent almost right away. While playing through Swordflight (probably any chapter), not only do you really have to stay on your toes at all times, but you'd be well-advised to not assume anything, like that seemingly empty room you're in is really empty, or that seemingly random extraneous dwelling you just passed by has nothing of value or interest in it.

By contrast, the NWN OC, the expansions, and, apparently, DoIWD, take a much more generic approach and (try to) rely on more of an "epic" storyline or more drama to carry them. I do understand that DoIWD does make good use of new assets (I've heard), so I think it'll be worth it to play through it some day, but until the things I've already complained about in it are somehow rectified, it's on the shelf.

 

[Lacrymas]

I'm playing Siege of Shadowdale EE right now (his other module) and it's not nearly on the same level as Reptile God or Swordflight, it's quite sloppy and unpolished

I'll tell you what I think the problem in his modules seems to be when I finish Crimson Tides. Polish is certainly an issue, but a more minor one imo.

 

[Infinitron]

The original Siege of Shadowdale was created the same year NWN was released. Adjust your expectations.

 

[Lacrymas]

The original Siege of Shadowdale was created the same year NWN was released. Adjust your expectations.

But it was enhanced for the enhanced edition.

 

[Infinitron]

The original Siege of Shadowdale was created the same year NWN was released. Adjust your expectations.

But it was enhanced for the enhanced edition.

Well, it wasn't enhanced that much. You're playing Crimson Tides of Tethyr now so you can see the difference.

 

[Lacrymas]

That's true, Crimson Tides is better in certain ways but worse in others. My main problem remains, however. I'll share what it is when I've finished it. I'm in Suldanessellar atm, so I'm at least halfway through if my guess is correct.

 

[ds]

IIRC, Tethyr is the least polished part of the "trilogy". Especially the ending felt unfinished with weird pacing and jarring black-on white (concept?) art portraits.

 

[Nerevar]

Do me a favor:

- Buy Doom of Icewind Dale

- Roll up your character, any kind. Don't take any henchmen, just go solo

- Proceed to the point where you leave town and in the first area have to deal with ice troll berserkers, rangers, and sorcerers

- Come back here afterwards and tell me how things went

I've already done those things, I posted myself buying it in the thread lol. I even gave it a review. You know I beat SF lots right?

I was playing a Strength/Trickery Cleric though so it doesn't really count. The troll boss did kill me once but I reloaded and maybe I died to one or two traps but then I just had my secret weapon ready.

My character

 

[luj1]

The original Siege of Shadowdale was created the same year NWN was released. Adjust your expectations.

This is the Enhanced Edition of the module, dumb shill

 

[luj1]

Do me a favor:

- Buy Doom of Icewind Dale

- Roll up your character, any kind. Don't take any henchmen, just go solo

- Proceed to the point where you leave town and in the first area have to deal with ice troll berserkers, rangers, and sorcerers

- Come back here afterwards and tell me how things went

I've already done those things, I posted myself buying it in the thread lol. I even gave it a review. You know I beat SF lots right?

I was playing a Strength/Trickery Cleric though so it doesn't really count. The troll boss did kill me once but I reloaded and maybe I died to one or two traps but then I just had my secret weapon ready.

My character

Despite his advanced age, Crispy is what we call a "n00b" and played NwN for the first time this year

Just don't give him KotC2 or he will turn into a serial killer

 

[Gargaune]

GloomFrost, Nerevar, you've both praised the visuals (and I agree), but did either of you run into the shadows bug in the opening town of Bremen? Chunks of shadows popping off with the camera angle?

I'll tell you what I think the problem in his modules seems to be when I finish Crimson Tides. Polish is certainly an issue, but a more minor one imo.

Shouldn't you do TotM as well, though? Same author, same series.

 

[GloomFrost]

GloomFrost, Nerevar, you've both praised the visuals (and I agree), but did either of you run into the shadows bug in the opening town of Bremen? Chunks of shadows popping off with the camera angle?

I'll tell you what I think the problem in his modules seems to be when I finish Crimson Tides. Polish is certainly an issue, but a more minor one imo.

Shouldn't you do TotM as well, though? Same author, same series.

Yes I have but a simple reload fixed it for me so I never really paid any attention to it.

 

[Crispy]

This was your character while fighting the ice trolls near the beginning of Doom of Icewind Dale?