Looks good enough. Will pledge. The more isometric RPGs we have, the higher chance some of them will actually turn out good.
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Information The Dark Triad: Dragon's Death, Turn- and Party-based RPG - Kickstarter Now Live
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Totally valid reason to pledge for any game in Kickstarter, ever. The more games you pledge, the higher chance some of them will be isometric RPGs.
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No. I don't believe funding 100 modern warfare FPS's (assuming they would start appearing on KS) will increase the number of isometric RPGs at all.
This, this and THIS. A year ago we were deep down a hole with no hope at all, so hungered for a real RPG that the upcoming realse of Legend of Grimrock seemed like a beacon of shining light with flying unicorns, rainbows and sparkly stars surrounding it.*I'm just excited about the resurgence of these types of games. There will definitely be some stinkers, but as of a year ago there was no hope at all for any decent CRPGs. Today I'd need both hands to count how many decent to great looking CRPGs are in the pipeline.
It was very sad, really.
Now, our future prospects are: new Fallout (W2), new Baldur's Gate / IceWind Dale (P:E), new Torment (TToN). Fuck yeah. Hard not to get excited. If this Dark Triad game is supposed to be the new ToEE, let it be so. The original TOEE was released in 2003. Ten fucking years ago. It's about time we got another.
*I'm far from bashing LoG, but it's an average-good game, nothing more. Also, I always preferred TB blobbers to RT ones.
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I thought Chaos Chronicles was the new ToEE.
It's duel!
This seems more like the IE games, but with the proper 
kind of combat.
kind of combat.Azurite Games
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Ey guys, thanks for posting about us on the main page, we are really grateful that you help us to spread the word about the project! =)
We will keep giving more info so you can have a better idea of all the game elements that will conform define the game. In a couple of hours we will post a new update.
We will keep giving more info so you can have a better idea of all the game elements that will conform define the game. In a couple of hours we will post a new update.
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Hi guys, new update posted http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1604283933/the-dark-triad-dragons-death/posts/433866
I love the graphics, and the combat looks good, but the name is just awful. The Dark Triad by itself would have been okay. 13 pounds sterling is $19.63 USD. That seems a bit steep for a game from a totally unproven developer. I want to back it because the game does genuinely look promising, although I agree that the story should be completely re-imagined and rewritten. The basic building blocks for a good game do seem to be in place. For a game like this there should be a basic tier of no more than 12-15 USD. Like 8 GBP instead of 13.
I concur. A lower basic tier offering just the DRM free game at about 15 USD could help with the funding. Without more publicity, It'll still be difficult though. Damn big gaming sites.
Nah. I'd reckon most of the snake toothed vipers are simply holding back on their venom and spite out of simple courtesy.
If you get one thing right, it'll buy you more rope. And if you fuck it up, that'll be rope you're hanged from.
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Thanks for the comments, i'll take them into account.
We've just posted update 3: we talk about character customization and Game Story: A Law of Three in All Things. Let me know your thoughts!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1604283933/the-dark-triad-dragons-death/posts/434830
We've just posted update 3: we talk about character customization and Game Story: A Law of Three in All Things. Let me know your thoughts!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1604283933/the-dark-triad-dragons-death/posts/434830
Now we need a new Arcanum and a new VtM:Bloodlines and we're all set.
It's painful to see how bad the UK kickstarter platform performs, I guess pledging in Pound Sterling coins just don't feel right for anybody except for the people from the Shire.
Kickstarter should think about switching all branches to the US dollar.
Kickstarter should think about switching all branches to the US dollar.
This didn't go that bad. But there is something to it. I thought they should introduce technology that would automatically convert tiers into the currency of the country backers are connecting from, but I quickly realised that would be even worse. If I had the amount I was paying for the P:E boxed copy in PLN plainly displayed next to the tier, I would never have bought it
.Personally I much prefer pounds sterling to US dollars. In fact if I had any money at all, I'd prefer to have it in pounds. It's not as stable as it used to be, but it's still far better than dollars. I actually think having the amounts in pounds is an advantage because it's a smaller number. I even feel a bit silly saying that I'd back the project at 8 pounds but not at 13. That doesn't sound like much difference, but in USD it is a significant different for making a high risk investment.
This didn't go that bad. But there is something to it. I thought they should introduce technology that would automatically convert tiers into the currency of the country backers are connecting from, but I quickly realised that would be even worse. If I had the amount I was paying for the P:E boxed copy in PLN plainly displayed next to the tier, I would never have bought it
C'mon, it's Elite pitched by its original creator Braben. The publicity for this title was even greater than for Project:Eternity (at least here in Europe).
But there were many failed projects of decent quality on Kickstarter UK, e.g. Death Inc.
And some projects that barely reached their goal like Sui Generis (I am sure, this title would have been much more successful on Kickstarter U.S.) or Godus
Yeah, Braben besides getting multiple news in every major gaming outlet, also appeared in BBC1 TV advertising the Kickstarter. Now, I guess that is not something a lot of Kickstarter projects had (or will have) privilege to do.
As for The Dark Triad, I second the fact, that your entry tier is set too high. And it is for gimped version without the manual! 10 GBP (with manual) would be ok for unknown studio.
As for The Dark Triad, I second the fact, that your entry tier is set too high. And it is for gimped version without the manual! 10 GBP (with manual) would be ok for unknown studio.
Pledged. This might actually work too as the payment is not going through Amazon, which refuses my credit card recently, forcing me to go paypal on P:E and Torment.
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So do we think this is going to be funded?
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Coverage won't help at this point. They need to do a better job selling their ideas and concepts. They talk a lot about features but in the most general terms, like a lecturer rather than a developer.
For example:
"TDTD is based in a medieval fantasy setting. Obviously a fantastic setting does not mean that the story and, by extension, dialogue, cannot be highly realistic, at least regarding the social events and personal interactions with other NPCs and party members.
At the same time, we cannot say realism can’t be mixed with a high degree of fantasy. If we think more deeply about this contradiction, we could actually form a connection between them: Fantasy might be an attempt to explain reality, using an associative logic that has not yet understood the laws of nature or those of cause and effect. "
What does this tell you? Absolutely nothing.
Another example:
"It seems The Dark Triad: Dragon’s Death's plot is generating some controversy. There are the ones that like the setting a lot, and there are others that plainly abhor it. I decided to write this piece to make some things clear, as I think one video can’t explain accurately what’s hidden behind a seemingly cliche story.
Some may argue that the story of The Dark Triad: Dragon’s Death is the classic conflict of Good vs Evil, and that’s true to a certain extent. But this is true only in a black and white sense-- in reality, we are trying to make the distinction between these forces much grayer. What one can view as good and bad depends on his own point of view and beliefs, which are conditioned by his or her life experiences and the environment in which they were raised."
Same problem. "Some may argue that the story is GvE, which is true, sort of, but not really because we're going for gray areas." 4 paragraphs - 0 information.
I'm not attacking the game, mind you. I know that the developers are reading, so hopefully they can change the way they present info. While this KS will most likely fail, I hope they will use this experience to fix all their mistakes and do better next time.
For example:
"TDTD is based in a medieval fantasy setting. Obviously a fantastic setting does not mean that the story and, by extension, dialogue, cannot be highly realistic, at least regarding the social events and personal interactions with other NPCs and party members.
At the same time, we cannot say realism can’t be mixed with a high degree of fantasy. If we think more deeply about this contradiction, we could actually form a connection between them: Fantasy might be an attempt to explain reality, using an associative logic that has not yet understood the laws of nature or those of cause and effect. "
What does this tell you? Absolutely nothing.
Another example:
"It seems The Dark Triad: Dragon’s Death's plot is generating some controversy. There are the ones that like the setting a lot, and there are others that plainly abhor it. I decided to write this piece to make some things clear, as I think one video can’t explain accurately what’s hidden behind a seemingly cliche story.
Some may argue that the story of The Dark Triad: Dragon’s Death is the classic conflict of Good vs Evil, and that’s true to a certain extent. But this is true only in a black and white sense-- in reality, we are trying to make the distinction between these forces much grayer. What one can view as good and bad depends on his own point of view and beliefs, which are conditioned by his or her life experiences and the environment in which they were raised."
Same problem. "Some may argue that the story is GvE, which is true, sort of, but not really because we're going for gray areas." 4 paragraphs - 0 information.
I'm not attacking the game, mind you. I know that the developers are reading, so hopefully they can change the way they present info. While this KS will most likely fail, I hope they will use this experience to fix all their mistakes and do better next time.
Yeah I agree. I wish they would have approached us first, as we would have given them some tough but fair feedback for their KS launch.
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