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The Last Of Us 2 - now with protagonist-murdering trannies

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by imweasel, Jun 12, 2018.

  1. Robber Baron Educated

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    Today /v/ was alright

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  2. norolim Cipher

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    Great story. Shame it's based on a false premise. Cuckman did in fact write Part 1 and was a creative director on that game. Apparently, he isn't completely talentless and is capable of writing a somewhat competent story and characters. The problem is, that's not what he was trying to do in Part 2. When making it, Cuckman was first and foremost preoccupied with conveying ideological messages and ticking off a checklist dictated by that ideology. One of those check marks was deconstructing the most significant representatives of the class enemy white patriarchy. This is not the approach you take, when you're trying to create a compelling story and well developed characters. it's what you do, to produce propaganda. So it's like cvv said: ideology and spite.
     
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  3. Matador Erudite

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    We are in the midst of a cultural war, people who doesn't see it and claim this is about incompetent or mad writers or anecdotal doesn't understand the situation.

    This is just a battle on it, but an important one. The enemy is so interested in Last of Us 2 because gaming is not totally rotten unlike films or other arenas, and it is a very popular, successful and well regarded franchise.

    They want the average gamer to submit on this one to claim a lot of ground and increase their strength in all the industry from now on. They want the executives to perceive is more trouble than is worth to resist SJWs and progressive agenda, and follow the path of least resistance, or even that the gaming community want this content. And the situation will become worse and more frequent, it will NOT STOP here.

    That's why is important to push hard on this: meme, review bomb, any tactic to signal the industry we are nastier than those degenerates. If you care about gaming.
     
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  4. commie The Last Marxist Patron

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    Agree. The game will be profitable, just like the last Bioware/EA stinkers were profitable too. The point is that as this level, just being profitable, even making tens of millions or more in pure profit is paradoxically not enough given the entire development cycle and shareholder dividend increase expected.

    If this game doesn't bring enormous returns,that have and will be eaten into with paid 10/10 infomercials and will continue to have apologist editorials how the 'user ratings' are just by trolls,'how gamers haven't matured yet to appreciate greatness' etc. then the likelihood that it will be on hiatus or as you say 'story is finished' like ME and dumped then rebooted in some future time if there's nostalgia for it, is certainly high.
     
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  5. toro Arcane

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    Google Bruce Straley. He created the characters of Joel and Ellie. Also the ending of Tlou1 was not done by Cuckmann.

    Basically he was the creative director but the hard work was done by other people.
     
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  6. vonAchdorf Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    goty material
     
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  8. Sodafish Arcane

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    Cloth simulations have been able to do this for over 20 years. It will be pre-baked animation data used in the cutscene. There's nothing groundbreaking about it.
     
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    All the feminists hating men stuff has been getting to me this past week.
     
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  11. blrrmmmff Learned

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    It might, but it will probably disappoint. Remember this is a PS4 exclusive, they are supposed to be universally liked and sell 10s of millions of copies, not get a 3.4 user score on Metacritic and merely sell a few million. These are supposed to be the games people buy a PS4 for.

    A lot of people will probably buy it to see how bad it really is. But it will create a lot of controversy and division Sony won't like. Plus market research will probably show that the brand will be damaged. They don't want half the population who don't like this SJW stuff not buy a ps5 out of principle. Especially since those are often the ones who have money.

    I hope that investors see titles that do not participate in the culture war, and see that people like them, and they make money. And they will weed out the culture warriors, and bring in more talent that is not interested in political messages.

    Edit: to add, when doing market research they might find that people were impressed with graphics, quality of sound design, quality of voice acting etc. And think 'hmm if we had a non culture war theme, with a good story, this would have been a universal success'. Basically the part where all the money went, is not why people hate it.
     
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  12. GrainWetski Arcane

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    They're just looking for any and every way to shill this crap.
     
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  13. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Yeah, that's not how the destruction of these big IPs works. It's gonna be like Star Wars - TLJ did make 1.3 billion. That's a huge amount of money and huge profit for Disney.

    Problem is it's way less than 2.1 billion for Force Awakens. And it also caused the third film to flop even more, with "mere" 1.1 billion. This is not what's expected from successful trilogies. Series like LotR or Harry Potter were either more or equally successful with each subsequent sequel.

    So my humble tip is this: TLoU1 sold 20 million (as did Uncharted 4). The second game will sell maybe 13 million? And if they make a third game it'll have a hard time reaching 10 million. And this is all the most optimistic prediction for ND I could manage.

    And just like that Naughty Dog will decline from a studio that was regularly selling 20 million to someone selling half that, if lucky. From the top of the world into the crowded average.
     
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  14. norolim Cipher

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    I'm not imagining he did everything on his own. I'm also not overrating his talent. All I'm saying his creative direction lead to something that the unwashed masses consider quality, at least once before. I have no way to check how much actual writing/work he did on TLoU1.
     
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  15. vonAchdorf Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Full disclosure: I never played TLoU 1 (or 2). Even for the first game I found all those deeep/mature/GotGeneration/10/10 ratings to be a turn-off. I only played the Uncharted series.
     
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  16. Egosphere Magister

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    Nah, in the long run that won't do shit. Every institution that has a semblance of power in the west leans left, sometimes hard left. Meme-ing, review bombing - these are just minor bumps on the road for an industry which is no longer wholly motivated by profit.
     
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  17. Robber Baron Educated

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    Thankfully the game industry does not exist in vacuum, the world changes so fast every time you can never know when the next bump gonna change everything
     
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  18. Egosphere Magister

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    You didn't miss out on much
     
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    I've playing this thing for a while. As a game is gud IMO, better than the original in terms of gameplay and such. It's still a atmospheric walking simulator about surviving plant zombies, mind this if you want to try these games. Now, the story... you have an incredibly big problem when mere flashbacks (About Joel an Ellie in the time period of the first game) are way more appealing than the new story the game wants to tell. Simply put: This game needs Joel, because this story is about him and the Ellen page clone. And they literally thrown him in to the nearest bin.
     
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    At least in anime the girls don't have receding hairlines.
     
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  21. AwesomeButton Cut a deal with the authorities Patron

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    I think a big part of the frustration is the fact that the developers wanted to hide Abby until the end, and only the leaks prevented that, and even then the leaks were seen by a small minority of the playerbase.

    It's the feeling of insincerity, not even mentioning the cooked trailer with Joel, which hurts the most. Why did Naughty dog not present Abby in any of the trailers? They could have pulled it off without spoiling she will be killing Joel.

    My answer is - because they knew what the effect would be. People would run and cancel preorders at the news they won't be playing with the same main characters.
     
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    Do we want to know what kind of specimens she does touch?
     
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    Should be Avellone backstabbing Sawyer. Get yer memes right.
     
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