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The Legend of Heroes Thread - Trails of Cold Steel in the Sky

Maxie

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Trails through Daybreak demo available now on PS4 / PS5 and Switch.

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Cold Steel 2 is the best Cold Steel game hands down, followed by 4.
Where should I start the saga?

If you are interested in the Trails of Cold Steel games then start at CS1. Do not listen to the people who say that you have to do 400 hours of homeworking playing through other games you are not interested in before you can finally start the game you were interested in the first place. Each individual Trails arc is about its own characters and gives you the information you need to understand its own plot. Do not play the series in order in the hope that there will be a satisfying payoff for the overarching storylines. There isn't any. You should instead individual Trails games/arcs for their own appeal. If the fantasy Prussia setting and magitek mecha and airships and nobles in cravats who practice anime swordsmanship sounds cool to you, then that is what you should play.
 

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The satisfying payoff and overarching storylines are almost entirely based on character development, character recognition, and the relationships between said characters. Just because you haven't gotten your "big villain reveal" and whatever climax that you think should have happened that constitutes good storytelling in your eyes doesn't mean that satisfying overarching stories aren't happening. They're happening constantly throughout the series.

But yeah, start wherever you want. It is overall much more satisfying having started from Trails in the Sky FC, but it's not 100% necessary to understand the world and whatever is going on in a particular arc. It's just way more satisfying overall. The only things that dragged me through Cold Steel 1 were the gameplay, the built up curiosity about what the Erebonian Empire I kept hearing about through the Sky and Crossbell games was actually like, and seeing and hearing about characters I recognized from earlier games. And I'm glad I had those things to get me past the highschool bullshit, because I ended up liking a lot of the new characters by the end and it led me to the great enjoyment of CS 2, 4, and Reverie. If I had started with CS1 as my first game, I might have dropped the series and never looked back.
 

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Comparing Baldurs Gate 3 complete lack of party banter or relationships to Zero no Kiseki.

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Cold Steel 2 is the best Cold Steel game hands down, followed by 4.
Where should I start the saga?

If you are interested in the Trails of Cold Steel games then start at CS1. Do not listen to the people who say that you have to do 400 hours of homeworking playing through other games you are not interested in before you can finally start the game you were interested in the first place. Each individual Trails arc is about its own characters and gives you the information you need to understand its own plot. Do not play the series in order in the hope that there will be a satisfying payoff for the overarching storylines. There isn't any. You should instead individual Trails games/arcs for their own appeal. If the fantasy Prussia setting and magitek mecha and airships and nobles in cravats who practice anime swordsmanship sounds cool to you, then that is what you should play.
The satisfying payoff and overarching storylines are almost entirely based on character development, character recognition, and the relationships between said characters. Just because you haven't gotten your "big villain reveal" and whatever climax that you think should have happened that constitutes good storytelling in your eyes doesn't mean that satisfying overarching stories aren't happening. They're happening constantly throughout the series.

But yeah, start wherever you want. It is overall much more satisfying having started from Trails in the Sky FC, but it's not 100% necessary to understand the world and whatever is going on in a particular arc. It's just way more satisfying overall. The only things that dragged me through Cold Steel 1 were the gameplay, the built up curiosity about what the Erebonian Empire I kept hearing about through the Sky and Crossbell games was actually like, and seeing and hearing about characters I recognized from earlier games. And I'm glad I had those things to get me past the highschool bullshit, because I ended up liking a lot of the new characters by the end and it led me to the great enjoyment of CS 2, 4, and Reverie. If I had started with CS1 as my first game, I might have dropped the series and never looked back.
So isn't Trails through Daybreak playable as a standalone title?

I would even start with Trails in the Sky but it's better for me not to play games on Steam or on PC at all (besides emulation, maybe) because for some reason that only makes me end up in endlessly increasing my backlog and library. So I have decided to only play games on my Nintendo Switch and see where this ends. But there I think the earliest you can start with the series is from Trails from Zero.
 
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You can play Kuro no Kiseki without prior knowledge, it's just that the game itself isn't very good compared to Cold Steel or Sky. It's 110 hours long but nothing really happens until 70 hours in, and the cast is just as bland as Zero's, and the combat and character building never becomes challenging even on the highest difficulty. That being said I would still rate Kuro higher than Crossbell as it doesn't make any utterly infuriating story decisions and it looks nicer.
 
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2nd trailer for Kai has been leaked

Crow's outfit is dumb. He's not a boy who ran away from home and did punky school concerts anymore. He is in his mid 20s and is on call as part of Erebonia's elite agents. He should dress like a man, if not a professional. Infiltrating hostile territory is no excuse.

Interesting that Altina does not appear to have a big Combat Shell trailing behind her. From the first trailer I had thought that Claiomh Solais had been modified to be able to transform into a new form. It instead looks like she is wielding completely different equipment. I wonder if Claiomh Solais' AI core was removed from the shell and installed into that.

I wonder if Rean, Crow, and Altina will meet up with their inside man Julian and the latter becomes playable.
 

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Crow's outfit is dumb. He's not a boy who ran away from home and did punky school concerts anymore. He is in his mid 20s and is on call as part of Erebonia's elite agents. He should dress like a man, if not a professional. Infiltrating hostile territory is no excuse.
Nah it's on character IMO. I mean letchter is more or less the same. He's a punk at heart
 

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Had to quit Cold Steel 3 after 10h. It was too cringe. How in cutscenes EVERY character has to always say one line. Then repeat. Bad writing...
The endless time wasting dialogue it was just too much. When Elliot was playing music in the church I broke and skipped every dialogue. But then I noticed that I do not even enjoy the gameplay anymore. The Maps are so boring too. I don't think this series is for me and if the new games is the same style I will skip.
 

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Had to quit Cold Steel 3 after 10h. It was too cringe. How in cutscenes EVERY character has to always say one line. Then repeat. Bad writing...
The endless time wasting dialogue it was just too much. When Elliot was playing music in the church I broke and skipped every dialogue. But then I noticed that I do not even enjoy the gameplay anymore. The Maps are so boring too. I don't think this series is for me and if the new games is the same style I will skip.
I couldn't finish Cold Steel 3 either. I didn't like the expanded cast and the story didn't really seem to be going anywhere in particular so I stopped playing for a while. When I started it back up I had no idea where to go to progress the plot and after half an hour of wandering around uselessly I uninstalled it.
 

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I want to start playing The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky. Is there any mod that I need to install to unwokeify the official trannylation?

https://old.reddit.com/r/Falcom/comments/pt9j6s/falcom_games_mod_collection_evolution_mods_hd/

I would download evo voices at least, visuals is optional preference thing
I finished the game yesterday. Overall it was pretty fun. It was pretty much the only thing that I played in the last two weeks. The story really picked up in the last third of the game. My only gripe was that although you have the ability to move during combat, you can't move and then attack in the same turn, so it made certain types of crafts very situational, especially those that shoot over a straight line.

As for the voice patch, I decided to not use it because I didn't want to extend the game time of an already very long game. Thank God for the turbo mode because otherwise I don't know how anyone could have patience for it. Even with the turbo mode active it took me about 42 hours to beat. The in-game clock which doesn't take into account the turbo mode registered around 75 or shoo. Sheesh.

Also Estelle is already waifu of the year for me.

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I want to start playing The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky. Is there any mod that I need to install to unwokeify the official trannylation?

https://old.reddit.com/r/Falcom/comments/pt9j6s/falcom_games_mod_collection_evolution_mods_hd/

I would download evo voices at least, visuals is optional preference thing
I finished the game yesterday. Overall it was pretty fun. It was pretty much the only thing that I played in the last two weeks. The story really picked up in the last third of the game. My only gripe was that although you have the ability to move during combat, you can't move and then attack in the same turn, so it made certain types of crafts very situational, especially those that shoot over a straight line.

As for the voice patch, I decided to not use it because I didn't want to extend the game time of an already very long game. Thank God for the turbo mode because otherwise I don't know how anyone could have patience for it. Even with the turbo mode active it took me about 42 hours to beat. The in-game clock which doesn't take into account the turbo mode registered around 75 or shoo. Sheesh.

Also Estelle is already waifu of the year for me.

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Estelle is best girl despite Falcoms attempts at ruining her
 

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