The Outer Worlds 2

[Lhynn]

This game is going to bomb. Deadfire the sequel.

 

[BlackheartXIII]

In Jan 2023 I have notice a large migration of TOW2's narrative team (Mhoon, Stone and Stark) and contect director (Brian Heins) to other ventures in Obsidian and beyond (Stark moved to Activision (Nov 2022) and Heins to Archetype Entertainment (Feb 2023)), Mhoon relocated to staff II in Jan 2023, Stone deleted TOW2 from her twitter bio, but still listed herself as an obsidian narrative designer.

 

[Roguey]

badler is The Outer Worlds 2 something you're still directing?

 

[Roguey]

In Jan 2023 I have notice a large migration of TOW2's narrative team (Mhoon, Stone and Stark) and contect director (Brian Heins) to other ventures in Obsidian and beyond (Stark moved to Activision (Nov 2022) and Heins to Archetype Entertainment (Feb 2023)), Mhoon relocated to staff II in Jan 2023, Stone deleted TOW2 from her twitter bio, but still listed herslef as an obsidian narrative designer.

The Avellone take: this is probably nothing, but he doesn't know anything for certain. https://twitter.com/ChrisAvellone/status/1633592147474804737

It could just be that Avowed is ramping up and TOW2 is ramping down, artists tend to be the first to be able to leave a project unless they're required to fix optimization bugs.

But to clarify, I don't really know, and speculation is just, well, speculation on my part.

He did express surprise that Heins is gone though:

Wow on Heins. Thought he was a lifer. Interesting.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

I hope one day Scorsese makes a Wolf of Silicon Valley about Feargus, worlds best salesman. Dude probably swims butt naked in gold coins, Scrouge McDuck style, while the company he sold has nothing to show after 5 years except some fake trailers with fake gameplay.

 

[fantadomat]

I hope one day Scorsese makes a Wolf of Silicon Valley about Feargus, worlds best salesman. Dude probably swims butt naked in gold coins, Scrouge McDuck style, while the company he sold has nothing to show after 5 years except some fake trailers with fake gameplay.

You should know the best,as a former coowner.....


Sooooo do the coins slip in your harry arse while swimming?!

 

[NaturallyCarnivorousSheep]

They should crank up the craziness and humour in it imo. Back when tow was released it was pretty nice but now they have to compete with High on Life and that's gonna be difficult.

 

[Roguey]

Avellone gives Boyarsky and Adler the royal snub:

No Tim Cain fully employed on it, no buy (he was involved, but partially retired now).

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

To be fair, neither Cain nor Avellone have done anything of note in the RPG world since around 2004. They got that bond.

 

[Atlantico]

Avellone gives Boyarsky and Adler the royal snub:

No Tim Cain fully employed on it, no buy (he was involved, but partially retired now).

The first game was such epic faggy shit that this can only be an improvement.

Avellone needs to stop talking. He is irrelevant. He made himself irrelevant. He's all nice and passive aggressive on Twitter, but he has deep issues.

Why did he burn all the bridges with Obsidian? That was his choice.

 

[Child of Malkav]

Why did he burn all the bridges with Obsidian? That was his choice.

Management issues at the time.

 

[Atlantico]

Why did he burn all the bridges with Obsidian? That was his choice.

Management issues at the time.

Wasn't Avellone a cofounder of Obsidian, he had a stake in the company. He was management.

 

[Child of Malkav]

Wasn't Avellone a cofounder of Obsidian, he had a stake in the company. He was management.

Until he wasn't and when he left he did so with quite the scandal at the time.

 

[laclongquan]

And so when somebody do a Metoo campaign on his ass, he had no resource to defend but himself~

Seriously, read about that! A classic smear campaign.

 

[Atlantico]

Wasn't Avellone a cofounder of Obsidian, he had a stake in the company. He was management.

Until he wasn't and when he left he did so with quite the scandal at the time.

He was fired from Obsidian. Because he was difficult to work with.

 

[Cross]

The first game was such epic faggy shit that this can only be an improvement.

This may sound counter-intuitive, but getting rid of Cain will make this even gayer than the first game.

 

[Daedalos]

We don't even know how much influence Cain has on OUTER WORLDS 2. We don't know shit about the sequel in fact.

NEED LEAKKS.. come on do it.

I need moar info

 

[Child of Malkav]

He was fired from Obsidian. Because he was difficult to work with.

Apparently. I don't think we'll know. He had some beef with Feargus or Sawyer or whoever was there, I don't remember all the details. The point is that they didn't part ways on friendly terms.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Why bother? Even if the game was marginally better than the first (assuming it ever comes ou), it'll still be crap. Look elsewhere for something to invest your time into.

Every time I see this art I flashback to Planet's Edge.

 

[Roguey]

He was fired from Obsidian. Because he was difficult to work with.

He was de-ownered and then quit because of that. Chris's story is that they de-ownered him because of all his disagreements with the other owners. It is alleged that the official internal reason for de-ownering him was unprofessional conduct (showing up to work in the afternoon after having liquor lunches). Apparently they didn't consider that bad enough to have him fired, just losing out on his stake in the company, how convenient.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

I recall rumors of crazy 80s parties by new gaming companies; funny they still happen. Fuckers got a cozy job and they fuck it away in some way.

 

[Atlantico]

He was fired from Obsidian. Because he was difficult to work with.

He was de-ownered and then quit because of that. Chris's story is that they de-ownered him because of all his disagreements with the other owners. It is alleged that the official internal reason for de-ownering him was unprofessional conduct (showing up to work in the afternoon after having liquor lunches). Apparently they didn't consider that bad enough to have him fired, just losing out on his stake in the company, how convenient.

I would love to hear Feargus' side of the story

 

[santino27]

He was fired from Obsidian. Because he was difficult to work with.

He was de-ownered and then quit because of that. Chris's story is that they de-ownered him because of all his disagreements with the other owners. It is alleged that the official internal reason for de-ownering him was unprofessional conduct (showing up to work in the afternoon after having liquor lunches). Apparently they didn't consider that bad enough to have him fired, just losing out on his stake in the company, how convenient.

I would love to hear Feargus' side of the story

Just buy a bag of Cheetos. You'll get the same lack of information (and nutritional value!) without having to look at Feargus' face.

 

[Maldoror]

Brian Heins left Obsidian? Perhaps a shame - I thought Tyranny had some good stuff going for it here and there. Not an amazing game, but solid.
When/if Josh leaves, that's when I know Obsidian is finally over for good. Pentiment was the best thing they've released since NV.

 

[Atlantico]

He was fired from Obsidian. Because he was difficult to work with.

He was de-ownered and then quit because of that. Chris's story is that they de-ownered him because of all his disagreements with the other owners. It is alleged that the official internal reason for de-ownering him was unprofessional conduct (showing up to work in the afternoon after having liquor lunches). Apparently they didn't consider that bad enough to have him fired, just losing out on his stake in the company, how convenient.

I would love to hear Feargus' side of the story

Just buy a bag of Cheetos. You'll get the same lack of information (and nutritional value!) without having to look at Feargus' face.

I didn't say I wanted to speak to Feargus