Development Info The Outer Worlds Panel at PAX West 2019 - Come to Halcyon Trailer

[mindfields]

Daily reminder that FPS with stats are not RPGs.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

However, they seem to have stepped on traps that the Hereditary creators and contributors didn't, some of which are discussed above. This is my main gripe what what I have seen, not so much the FONV similarities or the art style.

That said, Cainarsky have paid their dues, and I am open to see if they still have anything of substance to offer. They deserve that much.

For what saw so far , i didn't see any one dimensional male villian neither heroic ''insert color of hair here' woman.
We saw Edgewater that had two groups with different views of world and we had to decide who would we trust.. The Corporation town or The Deserters. Both had good reason to not lost their energy.

And other quest was greed woman that didn't want ed to pay for her settlement food.

I didn't saw any SJW scheme to force diversity and dyed hairs into our poor RPGs.

 

[Fenix]

We know this since the first Mortal Kombat.

We don't, because it's tiny 2D, also game was quite brutal for that time.

For what saw so far , i didn't see any one dimensional male villian neither heroic ''insert color of hair here' woman.

Then I guess you closed your eyes really tight.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Then I guess you closed your eyes really tight.

Or maybe they just didn't show any heroic dyed hair woman, yet... We saw a huntress , a criminal leader of a town,mechanical, a second in command of the cult, etc. I didn't saw a woman screaming ''self-insert political'' view to me yet.

Same for one dimensional villian male , none of the males characters seems unecessary agressive neither complete assholes because ''Men are bad and should be bad about it'' . Most of them are actually pretty polite towards to you. Especialy guy that want his Corporation to be at The Board again and Reed from Edgwater.

 

[Deleted Member 22431]

We know this since the first Mortal Kombat.

We don't, because it's tiny 2D, also game was quite brutal for that time.

You are missing the point. They are no trying to dull the empathy to make violence easily accepted. It is the other way around: they offer some resemblance of violence when they are actually trying to remove it due to all kinds of misguided political beliefs. Besides, regarding Mortal Kombat, the game is proof that you can enjoy a violent game without gamey attempts to make it less real.

 

[Trashos]

However, they seem to have stepped on traps that the Hereditary creators and contributors didn't, some of which are discussed above. This is my main gripe what what I have seen, not so much the FONV similarities or the art style.

For what saw so far , i didn't see any one dimensional male villian neither heroic ''insert color of hair here' woman.
We saw Edgewater that had two groups with different views of world and we had to decide who would we trust.. The Corporation town or The Deserters. Both had good reason to not lost their energy.

And other quest was greed woman that didn't want ed to pay for her settlement food.

I didn't saw any SJW scheme to force diversity and dyed hairs into our poor RPGs.

At the point that I was talking about blue-haired heroines and male villains, I was talking about the things that Hereditary didn't do -which I found surprising given the contemporary culture.

ITT people have been discussing other culture-related problems with TOW. The numbing down of violence, Ellie's hair (and we have discussed before her general lack of femininity). There are other related issues as well, but it is not time to describe them and it is not my point here. My point (and gripe) is that even smart and capable creators allow silly short-lived cultural fashions to mar their creations (as if anybody is going to look at Ellie in 20 years and think that she looks decent). Fortunately, not all creators fall into this trap.

 

[Fenix]

Or maybe they just didn't show any heroic dyed hair woman, yet...

How exactly is the name if this demagogic trick, I forget, remind me please?
When you assume someone said something that this someone didnt say?
Substitution of the thesis?

It's your own thesis that "sjw is only when #### " so go proof it.

We saw a huntress , a criminal leader of a town,mechanical, a second in command of the cult, etc. I didn't saw a woman screaming ''self-insert political'' view to me yet.

You didn't see it because you are fuck in your eyeballs.
I saw SJW-1, SJW-2, SJW-3 and more.
Every scene I saw basically reek of SJW and Cucklifornia.
If your argument was "I shut my eyelids real tight" then you can stop here.

It is the other way around: they offer some resemblance of violence when they are actually trying to remove it due to all kinds of misguided political beliefs.

Occam's razor. You oversimplicate things.

 

[Bastardchops]

It looks like Fallout 3 x Fisher Price x Diversity Quota x Female Simpleton. They talk about have choice and consequence. One of the panelists mentions you have a companion and if you mistreat the people of her village, she decides, "Oh I better stick around this person to make sure to keep an eye on them." What kind of retarded logic is this? I can only assume if you treat the village well she hangs around, so is the only real consequence of your actions that your companion complains at you? As opposed to something logical or meaningful like attacking you or leaving the party. The entire interview is filled with vagueness, teenage girl drama, and illogical shit like this.

You didn't see it because you are fuck in your eyeballs.
I saw SJW-1, SJW-2, SJW-3 and more.
Every scene I saw basically reek of SJW and Cucklifornia.
If your argument was "I shut my eyelids real tight" then you can stop here.

They're people who are so immersed in the agitprop mainstream culture of the West that they don't see it. Probably because they don't watch, read, or play anything that wasn't released earlier than 2005.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Oh I better stick around this person to make sure to keep an eye on them." What kind of retarded logic is this? I can only assume if you treat the village well she hangs around, so is the only real consequence of your actions that your companion complains at you? As opposed to something logical or meaningful like attacking you or leaving the party.

Boone in FNV would give you warnings if you started to kill too much NCRs when he was in your party but would only peace if you really pissed of him. Same for Deadfire.

Companions in Obisidian games always give you one warn before actually leaving unless its really fucked up major decision.

They're people who are so immersed in the agitprop mainstream culture of the West that they don't see it. Probably because they don't watch, read, or play anything that wasn't released earlier than 2005.

Or maybe i just don't give a fuck about and want to play the game to get any conclusions. Just because theres women, some of them have dye hair and some of them are in position of power , dont means is SJW game.

But i just wasting my time, at this point every game that dont have all female characters being super models for you two is a clearly of example of "Make female ugly intentionally for feminist reasons".

 

[Fenix]

They're people who are so immersed in the agitprop mainstream culture of the West that they don't see it. Probably because they don't watch, read, or play anything that wasn't released earlier than 2005.

True. I think for them SJW - extreme example - is when 11 friends of Negrino rape white boy. And not a drop less.

Or maybe i just don't give a fuck about and want to play the game to get any conclusions.

Dude, not giving a fuck is understandable, it's your right, right?
What is not understandable, why you telling some problem doesn't exist to a people wo do give a fuck?
You could say "I don't give a fuck" and like mind your own business, no prob here.

Just because theres women, some of them have dye hair and some of them are in position of power , dont means is SJW game.

It DOES mean that. I guess, for you only extreme things do counts as SJW, because you are swimming in it, and thus can't feel difference.

But i just wasting my time, at this point every game that dont have all female characters being super models for you two is a clearly of example of "Make female ugly intentionally for feminist reasons".

Stupidity beyond imagination, smash your head against the wall please..