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The Valve and Steam Platform Discussion Thread

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Commentary from various devs including Feargus and MCA: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/09/30/indies-on-steamos-pt-1-openness-potential-pitfalls/

Obsidian CEO Feargus Urquhart agreed, adding that Valve’s pretty clearly angling its molten-hot news eruptions at dyed-in-the-wool PC gamers right now, but we’re just the beginning. “I’m betting Gabe is looking for this to ultimately be for everyone,” he said. “If I had to guess though, the early adopters will most likely be users and fans of Steam along with gamers who want to play their PC libraries on their TVs.”

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Obsidian’s Chris Avellone concurred, adding that convenience is becoming even more key as mobile devices devour more and more of people’s gaming time. “Seeing the increased level of functionality a lot of mainstream TVs have nowadays (internet, USB ports, their own Netflix buttons on the controller, etc.), it feels like the migration into using the TV as a one-stop PC machine as well seems, well, inevitable,” he explained. “Already seeing a lot of that consolidation on mobile phone tech, bringing the PC to the living room via Steam seems like a smart move.”
 

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Why would anyone buy that tiny box when searching for a powerful PC? You can easily build something better than that for less than $700...
 

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Why would anyone buy that tiny box when searching for a powerful PC? You can easily build something better than that for less than $700...
I have NO idea at all. What's worse is they keep desperately trying to label it a console.
 

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For a $1000, lol. I take it you work for the marketing team?

I know I've linked you the profiles at CAG where all the momos have every console imaginable plus all of the portables. $1000 isn't really a steep climb in the minds of most console gamers... especially when they all think you need to spend $3,000 on a gaming PC.
 

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It's cheaper to buy BOTH PS4 and Xbone than this shit! It's probably why Valve doesn't let them announce it as a SteamOS machine, having a $1K machine as first release would simply kill all interest in this.

Sure, but Apple used intensive brainwash marketing to turn a iMac into first a status symbol and second a actual useful product... you can't just add a "premium price" to something and expect it to instantly be something cool and desirable.
 

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What kind of GPU is this thing going to have? Or are the specs in one of the previous links?
 

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It's cheaper to buy BOTH PS4 and Xbone than this shit! It's probably why Valve doesn't let them announce it as a SteamOS machine, having a $1K machine as first release would simply kill all interest in this.
Agreed about Valve bitch slapping them, in fact check out how angry they sound.

"It's also important to note that the PISTON Console will allow gamers to access Steam regardless of what our relationship is or isn't with Valve. Additionally, PISTON will also support a raft of other Internet-based gaming and entertainment platforms, which is more than what Valve apparently has planned for its official Steam Box. In this way, the PISTON Console could be perceived as something more than just a Steam Box, which makes sense because at its core the PISTON Console is a Modular™ Computer that can run any operating system or application designed to run on an x86-based 64-bit computer.

"To be clear, the PISTON Console will ship initially with a Windows operating system specifically because that's where the vast bulk of game software and computer gamers are today. That said, the PISTON Console can also run Linux (and other operating systems), which means it can support the Linux-version of Steam.

"Contrary to Valve's vision, Xi3 believes that the way to take this to market today is to do so with a Windows OS at the core, coupled with the ability to not just get to one platform/store for games, but to get access to all game stores/platforms. Studios should have the option to go through Steam if they choose or to go direct to the end-user if they so choose. That will be the difference between PISTON and other Steam Boxes. You'll be able to access Steam if you choose, but you'll also be able to access other platforms as well—all through the PISTON Console.

"We have opened PISTON Console pre-orders and have been amazed at the interest and amount of pre-orders we have received thus far. This just reaffirms to us our decision to open pre-orders, because we are seriously concerned we will not be able to meet the demand for PISTON Consoles for the 2013 Holiday Season.
 

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It's cheaper to buy BOTH PS4 and Xbone than this shit! It's probably why Valve doesn't let them announce it as a SteamOS machine, having a $1K machine as first release would simply kill all interest in this.

Sure, but Apple used intensive brainwash marketing to turn a iMac into first a status symbol and second a actual useful product... you can't just add a "premium price" to something and expect it to instantly be something cool and desirable.
Valve is pretty clearly trying to move into a premium space. Racing to the bottom is a losing proposition in the long run.
 

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What kind of GPU is this thing going to have? Or are the specs in one of the previous links?
From what it says on the page I think it's this wonder (might be wrong):
AMD R-Series R-464 specifications:
Type CPU / Microprocessor
Market segment Embedded
Frequency 2300 MHz
Turbo frequency 3200 MHz
Integrated graphics
GPU Type: Radeon HD 7660G
Shader cores: 384
Base frequency (MHz): 497
Maximum frequency (MHz): 686
 

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It's cheaper to buy BOTH PS4 and Xbone than this shit! It's probably why Valve doesn't let them announce it as a SteamOS machine, having a $1K machine as first release would simply kill all interest in this.

Sure, but Apple used intensive brainwash marketing to turn a iMac into first a status symbol and second a actual useful product... you can't just add a "premium price" to something and expect it to instantly be something cool and desirable.
Valve is pretty clearly trying to move into a premium space. Racing to the bottom is a losing proposition in the long run.
It's very clear that Valve is distancing themselves from this particular build. I suspect the price is a big factor. I expect to see something closer to half the price of the Steam Piston as part of Valves offering.
 

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It's very clear that Valve is distancing themselves from this particular build. I suspect the price is a big factor. I expect to see something closer to half the price of the Steam Piston as part of Valves offering.
Fair enough, but this PISTON™ company is even more clearly trying to set themselves up as an Alienware.
 

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This has absolutely nothing to do with the SteamBox/"Steam Machine" Announcements other than that Valve was in talks with them at the beginning and they used that for PR reasons to promote their products: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/xi3-piston-steambox.79794/

I'm still not sure why some apparently didn't get the memo.

Afaik there won't be news on that front till they are done with the Beta testing and are ready for release in combination with SteamOS some time in 2014.
 

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This has absolutely nothing to do with the SteamBox/"Steam Machine" Announcements other than that Valve was in talks with them at the beginning and they used that for PR reasons to promote their products: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/xi3-piston-steambox.79794/

I'm still not sure why some apparently didn't get the memo.

Afaik there won't be news on that front till they are done with the Beta testing and are ready for release in combination with SteamOS some time in 2014.
No shit? Who said it was the steam box?
 

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This has absolutely nothing to do with the SteamBox/"Steam Machine" Announcements other than that Valve was in talks with them at the beginning and they used that for PR reasons to promote their products: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/xi3-piston-steambox.79794/

I'm still not sure why some apparently didn't get the memo.

Afaik there won't be news on that front till they are done with the Beta testing and are ready for release in combination with SteamOS some time in 2014.
No shit? Who said it was the steam box?
A shitload of journalists and apparently you, or at least you are calling it the "Steam Piston" out of some unexplainable reason and brought it up in the Valve and Steam Discussion thread when they made it pretty clear back in March that they have no ties to said company: http://www.polygon.com/2013/3/12/4093418/valve-currently-has-no-involvement-with-the-piston-xi3

They aren't certified as such, they don't use their OS or their Controller, it's just a random gaming HTPC.

You could take any form factor HTPC and randomly call it a "Steam Box" at that rate, for instance look at this Steam LEET™: https://steigerdynamics.com/

By the way: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonev...tely-as-powerful-as-xi3-wants-you-to-believe/
 
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Did you miss the part where I quoted them distancing themselves as far as possible from Valve?

Edit: When every other word in their FAQ and PR statement is Valve and/or Steam, people get ideas.
 

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It's cheaper to buy BOTH PS4 and Xbone than this shit! It's probably why Valve doesn't let them announce it as a SteamOS machine, having a $1K machine as first release would simply kill all interest in this.
Console gaming isn't just for kids anymore, there are a lot of adult semi-casuals out there who can easily afford to drop 1000 kwabucks on a new console.
 

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