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Review The Witcher is slow and the dialogue sucks

Lemunde

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I agree with the first part but the second part is just nit picking. Slight pauses during dialog? Give me a break.
 

Darth Roxor

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I really don't get why people have such giant problems with the combat system in the Witcher. Are you suffering from multiple sclerosis that you can't time the already goddamn easy to perform combo by a simple click?
 

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J1M said:
WhiskeyWolf said:
J1M said:
How does the codex rationalize liking the clickfest of Witcher's combat? That was a huge roadblock for me while playing it.
Fail.
Yeah, who needs combat, the thing that occupies half your time with the game, to be worthwhile? Rediculous.
FAIL nr.2 for not getting the point.

Lingwe said:
Just he because he doesn't like a game that you like doesn't mean that you are able to call him a moron. That makes you a fanboy.
Oh nose.
 

ghostdog

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The part with the "slight pause between dialogs" or general complains about how the direction of dialog scenes isn't very realistic , is complete bullshit. I'll agree that it could be done better but has he ever played NWN2 where the camera is almost always obstructed by someones ass ? Even a game like Mass Effect that boasted about it's cinematic presentation had problems with dialog flow and camera angles.

The only valid complain he makes, is that the translation from Polish to English wasn't good. But since CDProject is releasing a new enhanced version with revamped translation and voice acting , this review is completely pointless.
 

RGE

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Darth Roxor said:
I really don't get why people have such giant problems with the combat system in the Witcher. Are you suffering from multiple sclerosis that you can't time the already goddamn easy to perform combo by a simple click?
I think that being locked into the rythm like that makes the combat kind of boring and frustrating, like standing at a conveyor belt. Sure, it looks much better than NWN, but gameplay wise I'd definitely prefer combat where I get to direct the flow instead of having the flow directed for me. Power fantasy, yo! Put me in control! :cool:

Though the real reason I gave up on The Witcher was because I got bored of inventory management. Which seemed to be the only refuge for player freedom. I guess I played myself into a pretty little corner there, didn't I?
 
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Darth Roxor said:
I really don't get why people have such giant problems with the combat system in the Witcher. Are you suffering from multiple sclerosis that you can't time the already goddamn easy to perform combo by a simple click?

Not giant problems, but it's too clunky to be decent action. Action games need sharp controls, anything less is not fun. Of course it'd be better if it'd be tactical, turn-based and all that, but at least do it right whichever way you do it.

EDIT :
Halo

The ultimate in overhyped mediocrity.

This is “combat evolved”? Who are they kidding? This is Wolfenstein, but with less variety.
 

Crolug

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RGE said:
Though the real reason I gave up on The Witcher was because I got bored of inventory management. Which seemed to be the only refuge for player freedom. I guess I played myself into a pretty little corner there, didn't I?

Well, EE will be exactly for people like you. That did give up on TW for one reason or another. Inventory will be fixed in EE, so you can try it on :)
 

J1M

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Darth Roxor said:
I really don't get why people have such giant problems with the combat system in the Witcher. Are you suffering from multiple sclerosis that you can't time the already goddamn easy to perform combo by a simple click?
lol, I never said it was hard. It is BORING.
 

J1M

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WhiskeyWolf said:
J1M said:
WhiskeyWolf said:
J1M said:
How does the codex rationalize liking the clickfest of Witcher's combat? That was a huge roadblock for me while playing it.
Fail.
Yeah, who needs combat, the thing that occupies half your time with the game, to be worthwhile? Rediculous.
FAIL nr.2 for not getting the point.
I didn't realize you were still butthurt from that other thread.
 

WhiskeyWolf

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J1M said:
WhiskeyWolf said:
J1M said:
WhiskeyWolf said:
J1M said:
How does the codex rationalize liking the clickfest of Witcher's combat? That was a huge roadblock for me while playing it.
Fail.
Yeah, who needs combat, the thing that occupies half your time with the game, to be worthwhile? Rediculous.
FAIL nr.2 for not getting the point.
I didn't realize you were still butthurt from that other thread.
Dream on, Jimmy baby.
 

Rhett Butler

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I don't agree that the journal is too complicated, I never found it complicated at all. There is a lot in there, but you don't have to read it all to play the game. I do agree with his criticizing the game for running so poorly at the supposed "minimum specifications", as I had the same problem (and I also had no problem running Oblivion at medium low specs). It's dishonest to market your game to people who cannot play it properly.
 

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Rhett Butler said:
I don't agree that the journal is too complicated, I never found it complicated at all. There is a lot in there, but you don't have to read it all to play the game. I do agree with his criticizing the game for running so poorly at the supposed "minimum specifications", as I had the same problem (and I also had no problem running Oblivion at medium low specs). It's dishonest to market your game to people who cannot play it properly.

Minimum requirements:

Microsoft® Windows® XP Service Pack 2, Vista (Operating System must be up to date with the latest fixes)

Intel Pentium 4 2.4GHz or AMD Athlon 64 +2800

1 GB RAM for Microsoft® Windows® XP / 1536 MB for Microsoft® Windows® Vista

128 MB Video RAM or greater with DirectX9 Vertex Shader/ Pixel Shader 2.0 support (NVIDIA GeForce 6600 or ATI Radeon 9800 or better)

8.5 GB available hard drive space

DirectX 9.0c compliant soundcard, plus speakers or headphones

DVD-Rom

Stop spreading your misinformed lies for God's sake. How many games do you know of that run on medium settings with minimum requirements?
 

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I also think a minimum requirement should be 'Common Sense'.
 
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skyway said:
I have a shitty PC by today's standards and TW runs pretty ok even on mid-to-high settings on my GF6600 and AMD XP 2500+ with 1GB Ram.

If the demo's anything to go by I'm honestly surprised by this statement, but then turning some details down but a notch might already turn off the most demanding features. Obviously this is a very subjective thing and depends on screen resolution as well, but I felt like I could do with a couple more frames on an X2 CPU and a GF8600GT card occasionally, bearing in mind that this is hardly the strongest of video cards. The aurora engine is said to be lacking in delivering smoother than silk framerates anyway, moreso in NWN2.
 

Rhett Butler

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TWD said:
How many games do you know of that run on medium settings with minimum requirements?

They shouldn't run on medium settings, they should run at a decent framerate on minimum settings, y'know be playable. If it says on the box you can play it with those specs then you should be able to play it, not just install it and watch a slide show.

You like The Witcher, great, but you don't need to try to shout down criticism of every aspect of it. It ran like shit when he played it, his rig met the requirements so he mentioned it in his review. I had the same experience so I mentioned it. Why exactly are your panties in a bunch?

PS - Because I will be too busy to argue tomorrow (Two essays, one worth 20% and one 15%, neither started, both due next week) I'm preemptively taking the last word. In response to whatever TWD says next I will congratulate him on the cubing, and point to whatever he says as evidence he deserves it. It's been a long time coming.
 

vrok

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Golden rule of Win-bloat gaming: Always have more RAM than what it says on the box.
 

Texas Red

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Rhett Butler said:
TWD said:
How many games do you know of that run on medium settings with minimum requirements?

They shouldn't run on medium settings, they should run at a decent framerate on minimum settings, y'know be playable. If it says on the box you can play it with those specs then you should be able to play it, not just install it and watch a slide show.

You like The Witcher, great, but you don't need to try to shout down criticism of every aspect of it. It ran like shit when he played it, his rig met the requirements so he mentioned it in his review. I had the same experience so I mentioned it. Why exactly are your panties in a bunch?

PS - Because I will be too busy to argue tomorrow (Two essays, one worth 20% and one 15%, neither started, both due next week) I'm preemptively taking the last word. In response to whatever TWD says next I will congratulate him on the cubing, and point to whatever he says as evidence he deserves it. It's been a long time coming.

Look, you idiot. If the game doesn't play for you on minimum specs when it does for everyone else, then that's your problem.
 

aron searle

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Stop being a dumbfuck.

He's talking about it being playable, not just playing.

Remember act 3 or 4 or so, when the town that was already abit laggy get's invaded by loads of monsters (can't remember the details), the game lags like a bitch even on lowest settings, and i have the RECOMENDED system specs, loads of people complained about this, so they deserve the critism for this failure.

That is not acceptable, and it's stoped me from re-playing the game until the EE comes out (assuming it fixes it).

In before "check you're drivers" = FUCK OFF
 

J1M

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I love how nobody responded discussing the combat system. I was hoping to be proven wrong but I guess I'll have to stick to my initial assessment.
 

Texas Red

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aron searle said:
Stop being a dumbfuck.

He's talking about it being playable, not just playing.

Remember act 3 or 4 or so, when the town that was already abit laggy get's invaded by loads of monsters (can't remember the details), the game lags like a bitch even on lowest settings, and i have the RECOMENDED system specs, loads of people complained about this, so they deserve the critism for this failure.

That is not acceptable, and it's stoped me from re-playing the game until the EE comes out (assuming it fixes it).

In before "check you're drivers" = FUCK OFF

So you suggest putting up ridiculous requirements because the game lags during 1% of the time, in particular where there is very, very little combat?
 

WhiskeyWolf

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J1M said:
I love how nobody responded discussing the combat system. I was hoping to be proven wrong but I guess I'll have to stick to my initial assessment.
You called TW's combat a "clickfest" and by doing so you made a total moron out of yourself, what did you expect?
 

aron searle

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Dark Individual said:
So you suggest putting up ridiculous requirements because the game lags during 1% of the time, in particular where there is very, very little combat?

RPG codex, the home of idiots.

The whole of that act 3/4 town lags, i can't remember the name of it now, but it was a town area that lots of people complained was laggy. Later on that same town, or one like it is invaded by a horde of monsters, during that point it becomes horribly unplayable unless turned right down (wherin i still only got 10 fps), on a recomended system, fuck knows what you do on a minimun system, again people complained about this.

There are also varouis areas/instances dotted throughout the game that cause the occoasional lag spike (getting ambushed by several thugs in a room, getting ambushed and surrounded by fire in the swampy tower are 2x examples), maybe they just wanted to re-create the online feel you get with MMO's.

That is not 1% of the game, It should be mentioned in a review, and it should affect the overall score.
 

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