Review TNO Reviews Neverwinter Nights 2

[Disconnected]

CK's born and raised in Brazil IIRC

Back then I lived in England & Sweden. Neither place treated RPGs like Americans did at the time. On the contrary, half my Swedish friends grew up playing a Swedish D&D-like based on Chaosium's Basic Role Play (called Drakar och Demoner) in school. Evidently teachers everywhere over there embraced RPGs as the latest, greatest in Socialising Children Tools™.

AFAIK shit wasn't so bad here, sure there are some urban legends of people killing over RPG's and that card games are evil, but nothing like making a film about it or movements against it or the media taking it seriously...


right?

Amusingly, overt religiosity wasn't treated very differently from how Americans treated D&D in the early 80s. Growing up I don't think I knew anyone who didn't consider American- (or Pakistani-) style religiosity deranged & dangerous. I don't remember any public hetz of the overtly religious, but they were basically treated like schizophrenics off their meds.

Perhaps the Indian religions hit on something with that Karma thing & just got the mechanics of it a bit wrong?

 

[Lockkaliber]

Actually role playing games have been used as a kind of scapegoat by media in several murder cases in sweden over the past 20 years. And then we have the release of Kult, which got many major stores to withdraw all role playing games (not just Kult) from the shelves. I vaguely remember Michael Petersen (swedish RPG mastermind) mentioning in one interview that he got excommunicated by the pope (!) for Kult.

edit: and of course, there's the famous book "army of the lost", (De övergivnas arme), written by two morons who tried to paint the swedish RPG "movement" as a bunch of murderous satanists and nazi mystics, as well as revolutionary anarchists trying to destroy and brainwash children.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

The RPG scare happened over here in Brazilol too (still happens when we need something to blame for a gruesome murder or the like). Vampire the Masquerade in particular. I found the Chick Tracts shortly after, and have been rofling since then.

Anyone interested in some lulz can see this religious comic for kids. The ugly kid is going around trying to beat up a dog because the DM told him to (because he's the dungeon master, see). Fortunately the other kids (including the token blackie) convince him that the only master is Jesus, because he won't tell you to go around beating people up and will only do good things for you ("like giving me XP and magic items?", says the blogger )

The latest media darling is Yu Gi Oh, which to most people is the same shit.

 

[Oriebam]

What? When did they talk about it on the news and on which channel?

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Years ago. Some girl was murdered on a cemetery and one of the involved played vampire or something like that.

fake edit: found it

http://www.projetocontinuum.com/2009/07 ... -caso.html

real edit: bonus content

http://www.orm.com.br/2009/noticias/def ... _modulo=19

O jovem gaúcho que fez a gravação de diálogo com Ezequiel pela internet ligou para a redação dos jornais Amazônia e O LIBERAL na última sexta-feira, 13, e contou que havia recebido em seu blog, depoimentos de três jovens paraenses, que se intitulavam "vampiros reais". Ele contou que participava de um jogo de RPG, cujo tema era "Vampiros: a máscara do Brasil", que reunia apenas gaúchos, até que os paraenses entraram. "Eles me chamaram a atenção porque eram de outro Estado e não falavam coisa com coisa, dizendo que eram vampiros de verdade, falando coisas de satanismo", disse o jovem.

I wanna play The Masquerade of Brazil too

Fui vítima de um vampirismo há 11 anos uma coisa horrível mesmo aqui em são paulo de um empresário de Manaus .Desenvolvi uma doença e até hoje tenho pesadelos horríveis e esse cara está impune, ele me hipnotizou e colocou um tipo de ácido que corroeu minhas unhas e eu tive um surto.Minha médica é do HC e pode confirmar toda história.Minha energia vital acabou eu vivo doente há 11 anos não tenho energia ele tirou tudo, eu não sabia que isso era possível.Hoje eu sonhei que ele iria ser preso e iria ficar 5 anos na cadeia.Eu chorava muito no meu sonho nunca tive a quem recorrer pois fiquei em surto e mal conseguia falar.E o pior que esse cara é da mídia.Vi uma foto dele recentemente o rosto dele está transfigurado ele é do mal precisa ser detido senão vai continuar sair por aí fazendo o horror que fez comigo.

 

[CrunchyHemorrhoids]

Brazilian Masquerade sounds like a trap movie.

 

[laclongquan]

Thinking back, I find my most favourite NWN2NPC is Shandra. Strong girl, both physical and spririt. Even knowing she'll be gone shortly I still use her extensively. Her death is... moving. Damn, Why the hell cant I resurrect her?

The most accurate words one can use to describe NWN2 Original Campaign's NPCs is "Undeveloped".

Khelgar is the most developed. He got a personal quest, a place of origin, and the stereotypical dwarf-fighter behaviour does give him some characters. It doesnt irritate me much prolly because the only DnD experience I have is through games.

the tiefling thief should have been developed much more because she's a constant member for non-thief characters. Alas, you only have her sidequest competing with a masterthief, which in story term, is frankly uninteresting and unimpressive. You dont even know much about her past, dialog's few lines not counted, or her place of origin. Worse, as a tiefling thief she's in comparison with Torment's tiefling thief, Annah of the Hive, and all her defiencies stands out even more.

All the rest suffer more or less the same treatment. Frankly, OC could use a few hundred hours of dev times to flesh out the Academy, the NWN temples, some more party banters for chapter 3 because they are running out in 2 already.

All that are saying Neverwinter Nights 2 Original Campaign is a great game despite its many flaws. Why? Because it has great gameplay: character creation and advancement system, item creations, multiple great sidequests. And in RPG, gameplay is king.