Development Info Tyranny Dev Diary Video #3: Gameplay and Mechanics

[ArchAngel]

It's a casualized PoE made by some Obsidian B-team. Hmmm I wonder why people are not excited

You are saying this like PoE is not already pretty casual. I think Tyranny just looks like a more fun version of a casual PoE game.

 

[Roguey]

You are saying this like PoE is not already pretty casual.

It is not.

 

[Sentinel]

It's a casualized PoE made by some Obsidian B-team. Hmmm I wonder why people are not excited

Brian Menze is now Obsidian's B-Team?

 

[Excidium II]

PoE might be casul for us but next to this?

 

[Excidium II]

It's a casualized PoE made by some Obsidian B-team. Hmmm I wonder why people are not excited

Brian Menze is now Obsidian's B-Team?

He's the one senior guy that has to make sense of this group of mostly recent hires and promoted interns.

 

[ArchAngel]

You are saying this like PoE is not already pretty casual.

It is not.

Maybe not for you, but it was pretty casual with all the no friendly fire abilities. With no preplanning abilities, with very little battle changer abilities (only dominate and petrify).

 

[Roguey]

Maybe not for you, but it was pretty casual with all the no friendly fire abilities.

D&D also has many spells with no friendly fire. There's a mix. The ones with friendly fire are stronger by design.

With no preplanning abilities,

Resting bonuses, food, and drugs. I'd also say stacking pre-buffs isn't an example of something being hardcore.

with very little battle changer abilities (only dominate and petrify).

I don't even know what this means.

 

[ortucis]

I hope the combat is similar to Original Sin than that DnD-like shite they crapped out in POE. One big reason why I couldn't be arsed with that game..

 

[Excidium II]

lmao yeah it has cooldowns like DOS

 

[Sentinel]

I hope the combat is similar to Original Sin than that DnD-like shite they crapped out in POE. One big reason why I couldn't be arsed with that game..

Fuck off, turn-based is trash in 90% of the games (in large part due to encounter design and pacing). Go play your 900 turn-based games you got last year.

 

[jungl]

Pillars was pretty darn casual. Get higher quality weapons and armors and you cream shit. Kind of brainless. Tyranny saw videos where u have to move your guys to avoid attacks never had to do that in pillars.

 

[ArchAngel]

Maybe not for you, but it was pretty casual with all the no friendly fire abilities.

D&D also has many spells with no friendly fire. There's a mix. The ones with friendly fire are stronger by design.

With no preplanning abilities,

Resting bonuses, food, and drugs. I'd also say stacking pre-buffs isn't an example of something being hardcore.

with very little battle changer abilities (only dominate and petrify).

I don't even know what this means.

D&D does not have that many(the most useful damage dealing one is lvl 8) and certainly not those that have physical effects on enemy (being damage or debuff like web or entangle).

Lol resting bonuses, drugs/food. Go out and shoot yourself behind the shed, you are not even worth someone else time to do that. Knowing what to precast and buff with in a system with limited spell slots is called tactical planning and it is something casual games don't have.

It means most spells and abilities in PoE are shit that change some numbers between 5 and 20% and don't really affect the battle in major ways. In IE games from lvl 1 you have spells like Sleep, Color Spray, Web, Entangle and the rest that were more than minor math modifiers. In PoE you can mostly ignore all spells except two (Dominate and Petrify). Only those two provoke a major change in your tactics or can cost you the battle. Only those two are the ones that make you think in advance on how to best counter them.

 

[Excidium II]

PoE has all those spells too. Also stat debuffs are a much bigger deal.

In PoE you can mostly ignore all spells except two (Dominate and Petrify). Only those two provoke a major change in your tactics or can cost you the battle. Only those two are the ones that make you think in advance on how to best counter them.

lmao

 

[Sentinel]

Maybe not for you, but it was pretty casual with all the no friendly fire abilities.

D&D also has many spells with no friendly fire. There's a mix. The ones with friendly fire are stronger by design.

With no preplanning abilities,

Resting bonuses, food, and drugs. I'd also say stacking pre-buffs isn't an example of something being hardcore.

with very little battle changer abilities (only dominate and petrify).

I don't even know what this means.

D&D does not have that many(the most useful damage dealing one is lvl 8) and certainly not those that have physical effects on enemy (being damage or debuff like web or entangle).

Lol resting bonuses, drugs/food. Go out and shoot yourself behind the shed, you are not even worth someone else time to do that. Knowing what to precast and buff with in a system with limited spell slots is called tactical planning and it is something casual games don't have.

It means most spells and abilities in PoE are shit that change some numbers between 5 and 20% and don't really affect the battle in major ways. In IE games from lvl 1 you have spells like Sleep, Color Spray, Web, Entangle and the rest that were more than minor math modifiers. In PoE you can mostly ignore all spells except two (Dominate and Petrify). Only those two provoke a major change in your tactics or can cost you the battle. Only those two are the ones that make you think in advance on how to best counter them.

Maybe if you play on normal

 

[ArchAngel]

I see the PoERetard boys are still delusional even after we ripped them a couple of new buttholes in the Obsidian subsection since the game release.

 

[Excidium II]

Any pre-WM discussion is void.

 

[Roguey]

Pillars was pretty darn casual. Get higher quality weapons and armors and you cream shit. Kind of brainless.

That's not true. There's a world of difference between something like Pillars of Eternity and actually-casual RPGs like Dragon Age Inquisition, South Park: The Stick of Truth, and Shadowrun Returns.

D&D does not have that many(the most useful damage dealing one is lvl 8) and certainly not those that have physical effects on enemy (being damage or debuff like web or entangle).

Here's a big one at level one: Sleep.

Lol resting bonuses, drugs/food. Go out and shoot yourself behind the shed, you are not even worth someone else time to do that. Knowing what to precast and buff with in a system with limited spell slots is called tactical planning and it is something casual games don't have.

Pillars of Eternity is significantly more demanding than Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2, which have prebuffing. Memorizing always-beneficial routines isn't hardcore.

It means most spells and abilities in PoE are shit that change some numbers between 5 and 20% and don't really affect the battle in major ways. In IE games from lvl 1 you have spells like Sleep, Color Spray, Web, Entangle and the rest that were more than minor math modifiers. In PoE you can mostly ignore all spells except two (Dominate and Petrify). Only those two provoke a major change in your tactics or can cost you the battle. Only those two are the ones that make you think in advance on how to best counter them.

PoE has all those covered except a spell like color spray that covers stunning, blindness, and unconsciousness all in one. It's not lacking in status effects http://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Status_Effects

 

[Sentinel]

I see the PoERetard boys are still delusional even after we ripped them a couple of new buttholes in the Obsidian subsection since the game release.

Your assessment is still wrong even for the vanilla release, retard.
But I guess according to you we should all discuss the 1.0 releases of every title?

 

[ArchAngel]

D&D does not have that many(the most useful damage dealing one is lvl 8) and certainly not those that have physical effects on enemy (being damage or debuff like web or entangle).

Here's a big one at level one: Sleep.

Wow, you found 1 spell. You must be feeling pretty smart right now? I did say there are not many. Maybe learn to read before you write your shit on the internet?

Lol resting bonuses, drugs/food. Go out and shoot yourself behind the shed, you are not even worth someone else time to do that. Knowing what to precast and buff with in a system with limited spell slots is called tactical planning and it is something casual games don't have.

Pillars of Eternity is significantly more demanding than Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2, which have prebuffing. Memorizing always-beneficial routines isn't hardcore.

Haha, fuck NWN. Nobody ever compared them to NWN. Since release PoE mechanics and spells are compared with IE games, you know the ones they used to market PoE in their KS. Are you dense or just don't have any arguments and trying to mislead?
And even in NWN prebuffing is more tactical than what PoE has (although it does come down to using same 5 spells and turns into a chore that pen and paper does not have due to nature of that medium).

It means most spells and abilities in PoE are shit that change some numbers between 5 and 20% and don't really affect the battle in major ways. In IE games from lvl 1 you have spells like Sleep, Color Spray, Web, Entangle and the rest that were more than minor math modifiers. In PoE you can mostly ignore all spells except two (Dominate and Petrify). Only those two provoke a major change in your tactics or can cost you the battle. Only those two are the ones that make you think in advance on how to best counter them.

PoE has all those covered except a spell like color spray that covers stunning, blindness, and unconsciousness all in one. It's not lacking in status effects http://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Status_Effects

And again you are either dense or tying to mislead on purpose. Read again what I said, you even quoted that part.

 

[Excidium II]

^ What a cretin lmao

You pretend that PoE and IE games work the same way. Those direct mechanic comparisons make zero sense.

 

[Roguey]

Wow, you found 1 spell. You must be feeling pretty smart right now? I did say there are not many. Maybe learn to read before you write your shit on the internet?

Good thing someone's actually gone through the trouble of making such a list http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/BG2/SpellsReference/AreaSpellChart.htm

That's actually quite a lot.

Haha, fuck NWN. Nobody ever compared them to NWN. Since release PoE mechanics and spells are compared with IE games, you know the ones they used to market PoE in their KS. Are you dense or just don't have any arguments and trying to mislead?

You seem unable to comprehend there's a spectrum between "casual" and "most hardcore ever." Neither PoE nor BG/IWD are in the extremes of either.

And even in NWN prebuffing is more tactical than what PoE has (although it does come down to using same 5 spells and turns into a chore that pen and paper does not have due to nature of that medium).

Prebuffing is a strategic action, not tactical.

 

[HoboForEternity]

worth it just to see some codexers get triggered

 

[duanth123]

Boy, Obsidian should be so lucky some of you are narcissistic/autistic? enough not to have grown bored of the same old arguments about PoE, such that you would inadvertently keep the embarrassing mediocrity of a news post of a game (lol @ plagiaristic kick off ledge) that is Tryananny at the top of theforum sidebar.

 

[Excidium II]

bump

 

[duanth123]

sage goes in all fields