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Underage party members in western RPGs?

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This focus on children in anime has always appeared quite odd to me. Of course there is some seemingly normal anime like Fist of the North Star or Vampire Hunter D, but the bulk of the popular stuff depicts children - and I don't just mean the "lolicon" but also boys.
Anime is made for kids primarily. The adults who obsess over anime were unfortunate accidents that have since become a big enough market. Also adulthood for normal people in Japan there's supposed to be no fooling around and the last time you are supposed to have adventures or fun with friends is high school so naturally there is more focus on high school or high school aged people in Japanese cartoons.
This focus on children in anime has always appeared quite odd to me. Of course there is some seemingly normal anime like Fist of the North Star or Vampire Hunter D, but the bulk of the popular stuff depicts children - and I don't just mean the "lolicon" but also boys.
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In before you realize that computer games and shounen shows are meant for kids first and foremost.
Console games are meant mainly for kids, but I don't think computer games were meant for them. They're more for teens or older. Also, console-damaged adults and weebs continue to play JRPGs even when they grow up and never really drop anime. By contrast, non-weeb adults don't tend to watch things like Hey Arnold.

That said, just because a show is aimed at kids doesn't mean it should be about kids. In white countries, shows aimed at small kids tend to feature kids, while shows aimed at late 0s and early 10s generally feature adults. E.g.:




When they added kids to Conan, they really ruined it.

The age of main characters in anime tend to correspond to the primary age groups they are marketed at.
 

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This focus on children in anime has always appeared quite odd to me. Of course there is some seemingly normal anime like Fist of the North Star or Vampire Hunter D, but the bulk of the popular stuff depicts children - and I don't just mean the "lolicon" but also boys.
Anime is made for kids primarily. The adults who obsess over anime were unfortunate accidents that have since become a big enough market. Also adulthood for normal people in Japan there's supposed to be no fooling around and the last time you are supposed to have adventures or fun with friends is high school so naturally there is more focus on high school or high school aged people in Japanese cartoons.
This focus on children in anime has always appeared quite odd to me. Of course there is some seemingly normal anime like Fist of the North Star or Vampire Hunter D, but the bulk of the popular stuff depicts children - and I don't just mean the "lolicon" but also boys.
000_Dragonball-Z-590x443.jpg
In before you realize that computer games and shounen shows are meant for kids first and foremost.
Console games are meant mainly for kids, but I don't think computer games were meant for them. They're more for teens or older. Also, console-damaged adults and weebs continue to play JRPGs even when they grow up and never really drop anime. By contrast, non-weeb adults don't tend to watch things like Hey Arnold.

That said, just because a show is aimed at kids doesn't mean it should be about kids. In white countries, shows aimed at small kids tend to feature kids, while shows aimed at late 0s and early 10s generally feature adults. E.g.:




When they added kids to Conan, they really ruined it.

The age of main characters in anime tend to correspond to the primary age groups they are marketed at.

So people get stuck playing paedo JRPGs and watching paedo anime well into their 30s and likely beyond, just like they tend to like the music they liked as teens but not often as small children. Which explains the contrast in the prevalence of children between RPGs and JRPGs.

Also, it's not really the case. All those sex dolls, loli porn, paedopillows and the rest are not intentionally aimed at children.
 

Lorebrok

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This focus on children in anime has always appeared quite odd to me. Of course there is some seemingly normal anime like Fist of the North Star or Vampire Hunter D, but the bulk of the popular stuff depicts children - and I don't just mean the "lolicon" but also boys.
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In before you realize that computer games and shounen shows are meant for kids first and foremost.
True, but games and anime for adults are much more fun. Its wasted on kids.
 
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Freedom Force has two teenagers, Liberty Lad and Sea Urchin. Both become super-hero side kicks to their respective counterparts, Minute Man and Man o' War. Both characters are quite potent, but Liberty Lad has a more prominent place in the plot. Sea Urchin is merely recitable.
 
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The real time tactics game "Partisans 1941" has a 14 yo kid as a party member for that's worth. It has leveling, stats,etc so it's in a very loose sense an "RPG" i suppose.
 

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fighting evil monsters and doing fetch quests with your loli harem
why not
 

Doktor Best

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JRPGs generally seem quite paedo. Even the average protagonist seems to be a teenager of some sort.

This focus on children in anime has always appeared quite odd to me. Of course there is some seemingly normal anime like Fist of the North Star or Vampire Hunter D, but the bulk of the popular stuff depicts children - and I don't just mean the "lolicon" but also boys.
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Anime is for kids/teens, of course its gonna feature child/teen characters.

Adult japs don't have time for recreation as they slave away for their corporate overlords all day long.
 

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A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
These are a dime a dozen in jRPGs, but what western RPG examples are there? All I can think of are Spark (Ultima 7) and Mission Vao (KotOR). Are there any others that are full fledged party members (not escortees, not part of a prologue)?
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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Rhin was actually one of the better elements in Tides of Numenera. She had a special skill, but was downright normal compared to all the exhaustingly crazy shit that filled 99,99% of the game. She behaved pretty much like a pre-teen taken away from her family would and was largely useless in combat (except for using cyphers), which made it satisfying to protect her.

Who wrote her? Was it Avellone or Rothfuss?

Those two were the only writers who wrote decent characters for that game.
 

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- Bob the 12 year old boy. He's 12 and technically should still go to school, but he wants to join up with an adventurer party instead. What skills does he bring to the table? None. He's 12. What the fuck do you expect him to be an expert at. Nagging? Lol.
Bob maybe a schoolboy, but he's a japanese schoolboy. And as we know japanese schoolers are usually have a latent superpowers or the abilities to control the giant humanoid mechs.
Exactly, that's what the childhood for Japanese boys is all about after all.

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And let's not forget female sidekicks with breasts big enough to hide weapons.

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
- Bob the 12 year old boy. He's 12 and technically should still go to school, but he wants to join up with an adventurer party instead. What skills does he bring to the table? None. He's 12. What the fuck do you expect him to be an expert at. Nagging? Lol.
Bob maybe a schoolboy, but he's a japanese schoolboy. And as we know japanese schoolers are usually have a latent superpowers or the abilities to control the giant humanoid mechs.
Exactly, that's what the childhood for Japanese boys is all about after all.

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And let's not forget female sidekicks with breasts big enough to hide weapons.

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Japanese boys and girls at highschool: "Maaaan it's so cool that we get to go on rip-roaring adventures and save the world all the time!! I love school!!"

Japanese men and women once they become adults:
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"I wish school had prepared me for this drudgery. All they ever did was send me on adventures... HOW DO I COPE WITH OFFICE WORK???"
 

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westerners can't be let near children in games or they demand to commit acts of pedophilia immediately
no need for it in japan since no pedophilia exists there
 

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Its a shame really they underused. You can train kids to break into and hotwire cars you can train them to kill grown adults. Medieval fighting is only so technical where a kid could learn to kill adult practicers.
 

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A lot of 80s toons with kids sucked. A lot of 80s shows are good nostalgia and i remember the themesongs but the shows in depth are pretty lame. A-team was awesome as a kid but ad i watch it as an adult it just is a piss poor MacGuyver group that flees constantly. They never kill anyone. Buck Rogers... pretty boring generally. Knight Rider... rarely fatalities. Relics of the past. Now I watch nightstalker from the 60s and there is death. Star Trek... death. Ah... PC TV... Games were/are often cleaned up esp from other countries ported to us. Looking at you japan!
 

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Clearly she is mega grandmistress of titty fucking. Only actual giants are even worth her time. The great storm giant king goes DAMNN!!!!
 

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Mission would disagree if she were still alive. :smug:
14, believe it or not.
Dunno, that beast Zaalbar killed the poor thing in one of my playthroughs. Revan is a good boy, he dindu nuffin.
 

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