KickStarter Underworld Ascendant is a disaster

[MasterLobar]

The good news is capitalism works. You make sh*t. People don't buy your sh*t. Your investors walk away. Your firm goes bankrupt.

August at the latest. Probably earlier.

 

[taxalot]

The good news is capitalism works. You make sh*t. People don't buy your sh*t. Your investors walk away. Your firm goes bankrupt.

August at the latest. Probably earlier.

If Capitalism works, explain Call of Duty.

 

[Grauken]

Didn't you want to leave forever?

 

[Max Heap]

If Capitalism works, explain Call of Duty.

The capitalistic success of degenerate content like Call of Duty is the result of marxists undermining western morality!
It's financial performance is merely the projection of an already rotten system of traditional values

 

[MasterLobar]

Is anyone else getting a warning message when trying to load the OS forum page?

https://www.othersideentertainment.com/forum/index.php

It says the site is a security risk (tried with Firefox, Edge and Chrome, all the same).

 

[Bad Sector]

Yes, their certificate expired yesterday (period is from "Monday, March 26, 2018" to "Saturday, May 25, 2019"). Someone forgot to get a new one.

 

[Katana1000S]

Yes, their certificate expired yesterday (period is from "Monday, March 26, 2018" to "Saturday, May 25, 2019"). Someone forgot to get a new one.

they fuck up everything they touch

 

[Silentstorm]

Wait, what happened now, does this mean they lost the right to host their own site?

If so...wow, otherwise, can someone please explain?

 

[unfairlight]

Wait, what happened now, does this mean they lost the right to host their own site?

no

If so...wow, otherwise, can someone please explain?

someone forgot to update a cert

 

[Max Heap]

I just watched this old video again:


I really want a post mortem on the project. Simply because Neurath seemed so enthusiastic about it.
It's one of the strangest game development stories I've ever seen I think. Also where is Neurath anyway?

There are other games that were stuck in development hell forever and even if they rarely pull off what they promised, at least many end up mediocre but playable (Deadly Premonition, Duke Nukem Forever, etc). Hell, some people even like those games. Deadly Premonition has a cult-like following.

I really just wanna know what went so god damn wrong with UA...

 

[FUDU]

I think it boils down to... The management team had no idea what they were doing.

 

[PrettyDeadman]

So, is it GUD???

 

[a Goat]

Everything Garriot touches turns into shit.

 

[Glic2000]

Well the explanation was they thought they were going to have more money than what the Kickstarter raised, but they didn't, because that funding got pulled almost immediately. At this point, they probably should have just cancelled the game.

Instead, they apparently muddled around for a couple of years, not doing much of anything until the game got a publisher. Then the publisher said, "take that pile of trash and cobble it together into something we can sell." And Underworld Ascendant was released!

 

[Mustawd]

 

[MasterLobar]

Well the explanation was they thought they were going to have more money than what the Kickstarter raised, but they didn't, because that funding got pulled almost immediately. At this point, they probably should have just cancelled the game.

Instead, they apparently muddled around for a couple of years, not doing much of anything until the game got a publisher. Then the publisher said, "take that pile of trash and cobble it together into something we can sell." And Underworld Ascendant was released!

It's actually fascinating that they managed to persuade 505 to publish UA. I'd really want to know what their sales pitch was.

When 505 made the publishing deal, the situation was the following:

- OS had burned through all their kickstarter money
- Their first publisher opted out
- They had put the game on hold for almost 2 years without finding a new publisher
- They didn't have anything to show that worked properly (almost a year later, they had a totally broken alpha)

The top OS guys have to be grandmaster-level con artists to sell that deal.

 

[Nyast]

Well the explanation was they thought they were going to have more money than what the Kickstarter raised, but they didn't, because that funding got pulled almost immediately. At this point, they probably should have just cancelled the game.

Instead, they apparently muddled around for a couple of years, not doing much of anything until the game got a publisher. Then the publisher said, "take that pile of trash and cobble it together into something we can sell." And Underworld Ascendant was released!

You forgot the last part:

"And Otherside were congratulating themselves for producing such a high quality game and genuinely thought they had done a great job, surely the game would sell tons and have a high metacritic score.."

 

[Glic2000]

It's actually fascinating that they managed to persuade 505 to publish UA. I'd really want to know what their sales pitch was.

When 505 made the publishing deal, the situation was the following:

- OS had burned through all their kickstarter money
- Their first publisher opted out
...
The top OS guys have to be grandmaster-level con artists to sell that deal.

I thought 505 was their first publisher. Unless that other never-named mysterious source of "other funding" was their other publisher.

 

[MasterLobar]

They just missed their deadline for the console version. They don't even have a trailer ready. And they still haven't sent out the physical backer rewards (7 months after launch).

CONSOLE PRIORITY. Still aiming to have this wrapped up by the end of this month [...] I’m working on gathering updated footage for a potential console trailer [...] hopefully exporting the whole thing by end of next week, right before we need all our console materials submitted. [...] In addition to this, I’ll be [...] coordinating our physical Kickstarter rewards so we can start shipping things out by early June. Note that this timeline for the physical goods are (sic) tentative

https://forums.otherside-e.com/t/may-20-2019-weekly-update/10071

 

[Silentstorm]

At this point someone should just make a post detailing everything that went wrong with the game before release and after, but i fear it would be so long even the most patient and interested people here would have no choice but to post TL:DR.

 

[Durwyn]

At this point someone should just make a post detailing everything that went wrong with the game before release and after, but i fear it would be so long even the most patient and interested people here would have no choice but to post TL:DR.

So much shit apparently went wrong, they'd need another kickstarter just to get funds to write/record it all down.

 

[Silentstorm]

That does seem to be the case, at this point they should announce a kickstarter for a documentary, if For Honor gets a documentary, i don't see why this game can't.

 

[Nano]

They just missed their deadline for the console version. They don't even have a trailer ready. And they still haven't sent out the physical backer rewards (7 months after launch).

I just... don't know what to say. What the fuck is even going on inside OtherSide?

 

[Old Hans]

That does seem to be the case, at this point they should announce a kickstarter for a documentary, if For Honor gets a documentary, i don't see why this game can't.

this game doesnt even deserve a documentary on why it was such a pile of garbage.

 

[Cael]

That does seem to be the case, at this point they should announce a kickstarter for a documentary, if For Honor gets a documentary, i don't see why this game can't.

this game doesnt even deserve a documentary on why it was such a pile of garbage.

There are some companies that should be part of a documentary on what not to do, be it management, marketing, sales or operations. I have been in a company where the customers tell us pointblank that this is the case for management and operations. It would seem that OS is another for marketing and sales.