KickStarter Underworld Ascendant is a disaster

[Child of Malkav]

What this game is missing is an actual, functional (let alone good) game. Modders would have to remake this. Not sure if this engine even supports modding.
Just let this thing die. It's over.

 

[Steamboat Willie]

There are still people on Steam who think the devs are hard at work trying to finish this:

It's not finished yet. Why don't you wait until they finish patching it. Go play Pillars of Eternity 2 until this is done. It's not that hard to uninstall and reinstall later instead of crying all over their boards. They are working.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/692840/discussions/0/1640915206454590249/#c1640919737474428114

Posted 3 days ago btw, not back in January or anything like that. I wonder if it's Sandro.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Latest fiasco: https://steamcommunity.com/app/692840/discussions/0/1640919103685204016/

1. Player complains about movement being physics-based
2. Flarechess answers that they don't plan on addressing it but hints / suggests it could be modded and refers to the modding thread
3. Modding thread says game can't be modded anymore ( https://forums.otherside-e.com/t/what-fan-mods-would-you-like-to-see/10014/37 )

To explain it more for those who care:
Most Unity games can be easily modded because all of the scripting is done in C#, a language that compiles to an intermediate language and is JIT(Just In Time) compiled when you run it.
The intermediate language is easily reversible back to its source unless obfuscated, and easily manipulated (replacing functions with your own custom one, adding pre/post-hooks to functions, etc.,)
Otherside switched from using the intermediate language to unity's il2cpp compiler largely intended for platforms that aren't allowed to use a JIT compiler. This translates the C# directly to C++ and compiles it to native code. Unless someone is very determined at this point(examples include things like sfall for FO1/2, Temple+, script extender for Bethesda games, etc.,) modding in the same fashion as before is off the table. It would require extensive reverse engineering by a skilled individual, especially considering all the debug symbols have most likely been stripped.

 

[Ranarama]

Depends. I have seen companies where the techs basically believe that they are too big for the company to fire, and they are right. The company went for a "lean and mean" model and went too lean, so the loss of even 1 guy would be catastrophic for their committed deadlines. The techs understood this, and instead of being the lowest rank in the company, they basically turned into union bitches. Nothing management can do once that hits.

So the company did stupid shit, and there was nothing management could do to fix the poor management?

But hey, blame the devs they gave all the power to for taking advantage.

 

[Cael]

Depends. I have seen companies where the techs basically believe that they are too big for the company to fire, and they are right. The company went for a "lean and mean" model and went too lean, so the loss of even 1 guy would be catastrophic for their committed deadlines. The techs understood this, and instead of being the lowest rank in the company, they basically turned into union bitches. Nothing management can do once that hits.

So the company did stupid shit, and there was nothing management could do to fix the poor management?

But hey, blame the devs they gave all the power to for taking advantage.

When a bunch of guys start taking advantage of a loophole? Of course. That is the basis for criminal activity.

Just because a loophole is there does not absolve someone for exploiting it.

 

[Efe]

its not much of a loophole if you end up a criminal afterwards cael.
it should absolve you if its working as intended.

 

[Cael]

its not much of a loophole if you end up a criminal afterwards cael.
it should absolve you if its working as intended.

And yet we have people trying to exploiting such loopholes all the time in real life.

 

[Efe]

cael criminality is defined by law/rules. loophole is a gap in logic of law/rules. criminality is breaking the law

having people exploit such loopholes in real life is irrelevant in this context. also if they are doing it successfully, then they are getting away with benefits they reap.

 

[Cael]

cael criminality is defined by law/rules. loophole is a gap in logic of law/rules. criminality is breaking the law

having people exploit such loopholes in real life is irrelevant in this context. also if they are doing it successfully, then they are getting away with benefits they reap.

No. They get pursued, charged and locked up.

In this case, they also get fucking fired once the management has had enough of their antics and decide that the short term pain is worth the long term gain.

 

[Wulfric Pinewood]

Ive heard that there is mod for this game that will not only uninstall it in 2 seconds but also prevent from its future install, and if user bypass this, mod will uninstall and delete all saved games from all Ultima I - IX titles plus both Ultima Underworlds as a punishment. Then it Will change your wallpaper to the permanent picture of Richard Garriott molested by bunch of heretics including Todd Howard, ceos from EA and creators of modern BiLgbtware and today Diablo Blizzard section daemons.

 

[Efe]

Cael

a random google search yields some examples.

 

[Ash]

So...even Bioshock is possibly better than this shit?

Never mind. That's just impossible.

 

[Cael]

Cael

a random google search yields some examples.

When my opponents tries to use memes, I know they have nothing left but smoke and mirrors. Which is not surprising given that it is you, a shill for UA.

 

[Efe]

linked page has many examples, show me where "They get pursued, charged and locked up."

you dont know what loophole means. i could have rated your posts shit and call you a dumbfuck but choose to post a friendly image and an informational link but your response clearly shows your preference in this matter.

 

[Tacgnol]

What this game is missing is an actual, functional (let alone good) game. Modders would have to remake this. Not sure if this engine even supports modding.
Just let this thing die. It's over.

Yeah, there is very little to salvage in this mess.

The change in compiler was just the final nail in the coffin.

 

[Cael]

linked page has many examples, show me where "They get pursued, charged and locked up."

you dont know what loophole means. i could have rated your posts shit and call you a dumbfuck but choose to post a friendly image and an informational link but your response clearly shows your preference in this matter.

You can do many things, but the problem with the Codex is that there are so many dickless cunts here that think downvoting people somehow makes them men, that the whole idea of downvoting has become pretty pointless. Sort of like sjws calling people racist or alt-right. Absolutely meaningless.

 

[Mustawd]

Cael, wtf are you going on about?

Underworld Ascendant is a huge financial success and the devs have done nothing wrong. That’s what Efe has been trying to get through your thick ESL skull.

Posters like Lobar and yourself are ruining it for actual gamers like us.

 

[Cael]

Cael, wtf are you going on about?

Underworld Ascendant is a huge financial success and the devs have done nothing wrong. That’s what Efe has been trying to get through your thick ESL skull.

Posters like Lobar and yourself are ruining it for actual gamers like us.

Then, prepare to be ruined. Like the traitor in the hind end of the cow:

 

[Ranarama]

But hey, blame the devs they gave all the power to for taking advantage.

When a bunch of guys start taking advantage of a loophole? Of course. That is the basis for criminal activity.

Just because a loophole is there does not absolve someone for exploiting it.

The "loophole" being idiots in charge of a company, and the "criminal exploit" being negotiating a better deal.

Why do you hate capitalism? Where did the free market touch you?

 

[Cael]

But hey, blame the devs they gave all the power to for taking advantage.

When a bunch of guys start taking advantage of a loophole? Of course. That is the basis for criminal activity.

Just because a loophole is there does not absolve someone for exploiting it.

The "loophole" being idiots in charge of a company, and the "criminal exploit" being negotiating a better deal.

Why do you hate capitalism? Where did the free market touch you?

As if a fucking kiwi would know what capitalism means. Take your stupid commie union cunt of a PM and stow it, soiboi.

 

[Katana1000S]

Cael seems like a retard

 

[Cael]

Cael seems like a retard

And you seem like a humourless fucktard.

 

[LESS T_T]

https://forums.otherside-e.com/t/august-19-2019-weekly-update/10149

August 19 2019 Weekly Update

Morning everyone! Getting right to it:

PC Hotfix 4.2 / Mac / Linux is scheduled for 12 pm PT / 3 pm ET today!

On a related note, I’m still waiting for Valve to approve the following Kickstarter items, so those will be rolled out this week:

• Dark Elf Kinsman Buckler
• Chalice of Cabirus
• Dancing Jade Dagger
• Lyrical Lute
• Little Friends Claw Knuckles
• 20 Steel Tipped Arrows (replacing the Sling with 8 Splatter Seeds for functionality)

PS4 / Xbox Hotfix:

PS4 is close to release, we just need to have our publisher confirm the build notes and wrap up the process. I would expect this to launch by mid-week or later this week.

Xbox One hotfix is also close to release, there’s one more build we want to test before we can get it ready for the release process.

Kickstarter Timeline

Originally we had promised that we would start shipping physical goods early this summer, and it’s nearly the end of August. We apologize for the delays.

I would like to send out a bigger KS update once the PC/Mac/Linux release is finalized, the KS goods are on their way, and I get an update from Fangamer as we wrap up the last few digital goods that they were waiting on us for, such as the final game version for the physical discs and the Making of UA DVD that I’ve been working on this month. I am hoping to get that KS update out this week, by Wednesday or Friday.

As always, if you need to update your shipping address or have any questions about the game, feel free to reach out to us at support@otherside-e.com or ping me here.

 

[MasterLobar]

OS never got anything they did even remotely right the first time, and they missed every deadline they ever set for themselves.

But SS3 is going to be totally different. It's the other team, you know. The half of the company that is totally competent and reliable.

 

[Terenty]

Warren already wants to create something never seen before...with a team of 15 and no money