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KickStarter Underworld Ascendant Pre-Release Thread

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Infinitron, Nov 24, 2015.

  1. JBro Savant

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    Reminds me of a box cutter.
     
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  2. vivec Self-Ejected

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    Very Prosperian. Someone inform him of the copyright infringement.

    You might be correct. The sound is probably tied to the *wind* effect.
     
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  3. AwesomeButton Personally falsified the US election results Patron

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    Reminds me of the Keepers' logo.
     
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  4. Sceptic Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    See the problem, to me, is that we have "UW sequel" on the one hand, and "distant from a UW game" on the other hand, and we're supposed to see both statements as compatible; to me a game that borrows more elements from other LGS games than it does from UW is not a UW game, it's a LGS game with some UW elements. Maybe I'm too cynical but I wonder if combining the statements like this was done precisely so that they could decide later on what kind of game they want to make and be able to point at a vague and almost contradictory pitch and say "but it fits", because whether they make a perfect UW successor or a game that has barely anything to do with UW but that takes place in the "Stygian Abyss", they're still being faithful to the pitch. Like I said in my previous post, it could still be a great game (I have doubts about that, but that's another topic), but it's not another UW, and that's going to be more of a disappointment to me than if they had simply pitched "a LGS type game" and left it at that.

    I agree with you about the SS remake being a much more clear cut case, and your thoughts on disappointment and expectations. Incidentally I didn't back UWA, because I couldn't see a unifying vision of what game they actually wanted to make (other than "a LGS game"; but that's just my opinion of the pitch), but as you so rightly pointed out it hasn't prevented me from oscillating back and forth between expectation and disappointment :P
     
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  5. Doctor Sbaitso SO, TELL ME ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS. Patron

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    I think it's too early to make that call. Wait until 2022, when the game reaches beta.

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  6. Doctor Sbaitso SO, TELL ME ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS. Patron

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    Looks like improved lighting, textures and shaders. Devs mention some new shots coming later this week with next level art direction. Starting to look good.

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  7. Zep Zepo Titties and Beer Dumbfuck Repressed Homosexual

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    Seriously? You think that looks good? That thing, whatever it is, doesn't fit the design of the world it was placed in. Looks like it was pasted into the scene from a totally different game.

    Zep--
     
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  8. Doctor Sbaitso SO, TELL ME ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS. Patron

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    I'm talking about the environment, not the ghost/lich/whateveritis.
     
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  9. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Anyone interested: this starts in 30 minutes or so, and will be streamed here:



    (Apparently there was Shroud of the Avatar talk but whatever.)
     
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  10. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    It's live.
     
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  11. Infinitron I post news Patron

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  12. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Box art, maybe?

     
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  13. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Not much new in the stream. There's a very short gameplay teaser.

    Three takeaways:

    1) You play yourself in in the game. Your character is supposed to be literally you transported from Earth - "the Avatar". That in itself is not new information, but apparently you'll also meet other characters in the game who are from Earth as well.

    2) Confirmed that the rune word-based spellcasting system from the prototype was axed and isn't coming back (not sure if they've said this before?)

    EDIT: Or is it?

    3) In the Q&A session, Neurath implies that Otherside had to back off from some of the crazier "dungeon ecology" ideas they experimented with during preproduction. They were just too complex.
     
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  14. Ash Arcane

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    I'm predicting a fun, cool game, with moderately simple, streamlined and convenient yet harmonious and engaging design. Elite masterclass of monocled game design like the classics? ...probably not.

    :negative:

    ...but I suppose we have to take what we can get these days.
     
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  15. RatTower Arcane Developer

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    That and the level portals are a bit of a kick in the balls for me. I thought collecting runes was pretty fun. Especially in Arx Fatalis.
     
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  16. Eggs is eggs Learned

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    How much Ultima lore is going to be in the game? I know they got the Ultima license but if you're not really going to tell an Ultima story it seems pointless to bother with it.
     
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  17. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Actually they don't.
     
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  18. Jedi Exile Arcanum Patron

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    I hope you are right. The other possibility is a bugged mess with some cool ideas, which developers failed to implement or had to abandon altogether.
     
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  19. Eggs is eggs Learned

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    They have the rights to use anything Ultima related, except for the name. It's essentially Ultima Underworld 3. I know Richard Garriott at one point was going to have some kind of tie ins with his Ultima successor but I don't know what happened to that.
     
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  20. Junmarko Arcane

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    I really hope not at this point.

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  21. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    I don't think so. In any case, they aren't using them. There are some references to Ultima Underworld 1 (like Tyball and Ishtass) but they appear to be stripped of their Ultima/Britannia context. It's like UW1 is retconned to be a non-Ultima within the context of Underworld Ascendant.

    The tie-in is that Ascendant's Dark Elf faction is from Garriott's game. Although we haven't seen much of the three factions recently, they've been focusing on the Lizardmen instead.
     
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  22. Infinitron I post news Patron

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  23. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Now on YouTube:



    https://www.othersideentertainment.com/forum/index.php?topic=1926.0

     
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  24. Eggs is eggs Learned

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    That makes sense. The 2nd one was a direct Ultima and even the first one had enough Ultima stuff in it that despite all the retcons and such I never realized it wasn't supposed to be an Ultima until I read about the development history. Still I do hope they throw in some Ultima stuff in there.
     
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  25. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Here we go:



     
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