World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[The Wall]

ButthurtBot 3000 badly lacked digital daddy, thought Jack was one. Reminded him of his real one, because both abandoned him. SadBot

I interpreted it as him liking you because you can get stuff done and has (some) confidence in your ability towards the latter half of the game.

In other words: player was his useful pawn

 

[Harthwain]

Yeah these words are not meant for the player to hear. They are meant for Caine the Taxi Driver. So you were saying it is safe to assume they are objective and not an act of deception on Jack's part... why exactly?

Because I don't think it's meant as an act of deception against Caine the Taxi Driver. "Everything is a deception" is a bit too paranoid approach for me to find it believable, even considering the setting.

A glass half full, or half empty? That is what I meant, he is ambiguous and this is left for interpretation, but you are reminded through the whole game that there is a greater game at play and you are just a peon, Jack acts all emphatetic while the sarcophagus is his bait for Lacroix [...]

If it is an act. But I do agree it's nice to have ambiguity.

Listen butthurt metalic baboon, I found your opinion RETARDED that elder vampire who manipulated you through entire game ACTHUALLY! cared for you and was digital substitute for your ran away nigger daddy because he said couple of cheap words which might have as well been said sarcastically. Thus I rated such retarded opinion as retarded and simply moved on with my life.

And that's exactly the problem: you tried to avoid discussion by using a cop out button, like a plebean.

Then, like a butthurt metalic nigger you are, you went on rampage and rated bunch of my posts in completely unrelated thread as retarded. You have more posts then I do, this is war you can not win

It's not a war. There is nothing to win. It's matter of a principle.

ButthurtBot 3000 badly lacked digital daddy, thought Jack was one. Reminded him of his real one, because both abandoned him. SadBot

You acted butthurt, so I rated you butthurt. Why is that suddenly a problem?

 

[The Wall]

Rating 5 of my posts in Realms Beyond thread as retarded in matters of second after receiving retarded rating to one your post in Bloodlines thread is butthurt lvl: KING KONG! and behaviour not worthy of gentlemanbot

 

[The Wall]

Now you've rated four my posts from completely unrelated thread as retarded not even reading them of course. This is butthurt war. War you can not win :D

 

[jackofshadows]

being no much better than Lacroix in the end.

That's quite a stretch considering that Lacroix actually sends you on a suicide mission while the other bunch really helps you multiple times. But I agree with the general idea of course - the fact that each character has his own agenda is one of the greatest OG's virtues.

And I don't even want to think what kind of agendas we'd find instead in the sequel if the project was complete by HSL. Even Damsel cameo alone, which was basically a parody on modern commie character could have been presented with a 100% straight ahem face.

 

[The Wall]

I'm on my phone, so my retarded rating fire rate is low. You have 1478 posts. I have 1000. Rest assured, every single post of yours until end of time will get retarded rating. So far you gave me 100+ retarded ratings. Your butthurt is size of Jupiter

This is war you have lost before it began
Gotta say, it will be amusing pastime for me

 

[DeepOcean]

being no much better than Lacroix in the end.

That's quite a stretch considering that Lacroix actually sends you on a suicide mission while the other bunch really helps you multiple times. But I agree with the general idea of course - the fact that each character has his own agenda is one of the greatest OG's virtues.

And I don't even want to think what kind of agendas we'd find instead in the sequel if the project was complete by HSL. Even Damsel cameo alone, which is the character who was basically a parody on modern commie could be presented with a 100% straight ahem face.

In the end, I chosen to say fuck to the Camarilla and fuck to the Anarchs, that seemed the most rational option for my character, yes, sure, Lacroix sends you into a suicide mission but Jack's plan might also very well got you killed and he was doing stuff behind your back, a weak "Yeah, the kid wasnt bad, I even liked him." wouldnt convince me whatsoever. I mean, while he isnt a huge obvious bastard like Lacroix and he is an excellent character because he is ambiguous, I knew that if I trusted the Anarchs like a sheep, eventually my character would get burned.

 

[Nano]

they appear emphatetic but manipulate you to do exactly what they want, caring the least for your safety

Nines and Jack both go out of their way to make sure you don't die. LaCroix, for his part, never leaves his office.

Sure, the factions are equal in how much they care about the MC. Totally.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Smiling Jack is your foster sire and does exactly what any Brujah does with their fledglings. He does care for you in his own way.

 

[Fedora Master]

Now you've rated four my posts from completely unrelated thread as retarded not even reading them of course. This is butthurt war. War you can not win :D

Looks like the thread is good for some entertainment after all.

 

[Harthwain]

I'm on my phone, so my retarded rating fire rate is low. You have 1478 posts. I have 1000. Rest assured, every single post of yours until end of time will get retarded rating. So far you gave me 100+ retarded ratings. Your butthurt is size of Jupiter

It's funny when you claim I am the butthurt one, while it's you who acts like you've been raped in the ass. I don't really care that you will rate all my posts. I will take your massive butthurt as my win and call it a day.

Nines and Jack both go out of their way to make sure you don't die. LaCroix, for his part, never leaves his office.

I will add more to this: LaCroix not only doesn't care about you - he is actively trying to kill you.

 

[Alienman]

Begun, the butthurt war has

 

[Twiglard]

I will add more to this: LaCroix not only doesn't care about you - he is actively trying to kill you.

The entire story is that LaCroix gives the PC progressively more absurd quests with the intention of getting rid of him. PC's rise from a fledgling to a power in his own right doesn't sit well with him. He's noveau riche, and wants to pull up the ladder behind him, much like Cicero.

 

[DeepOcean]

Smiling Jack is your foster sire and does exactly what any Brujah does with their fledglings. He does care for you in his own way.

Like an alcoholic dead beat father kind of way.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Smiling Jack is your foster sire and does exactly what any Brujah does with their fledglings. He does care for you in his own way.

Like an alcoholic dead beat father kind of way.

Still cares about you a lot more than anyone else and at least he isn't using you for his own political agenda like... everyone else.

 

[Raghar]

Jack cares about his trap. When main character croaks too soon, of course his whole plan blows up because he needs main character as a ruse. If he has passion for main character or not, who knows and who cares.

 

[DeepOcean]

Smiling Jack is your foster sire and does exactly what any Brujah does with their fledglings. He does care for you in his own way.

Like an alcoholic dead beat father kind of way.

Still cares about you a lot more than anyone else and at least he isn't using you for his own political agenda like... everyone else.

Sure, that whole placing tons of explosives inside the sarcophagus when you could open it without knowing sounds like a really caring foster sire and no agenda at all, but honestly, I'm more interested into knowing which pussy the fingerless gloves of Brian are right now or what girl will cancel him for rape.

 

[Atlantico]

The entire story is that LaCroix gives the PC progressively more absurd quests with the intention of getting rid of him. PC's rise from a fledgling to a power in his own right doesn't sit well with him. He's noveau riche, and wants to pull up the ladder behind him, much like Cicero.

I never quite felt LaCroix was presented in a manner that made sense. Your description is correct, as far as I can tell, but at the same time he's supposed to have been an officer in Napoleon's army - which makes him fairly old, from the Old World and should have seen a lot of things during his time. He should be very skilled in intrigue and information, having risen to the position he's in, and having lived since the XVIII century.

He also should not speak with an English accent and he should know how to pronounce his own name.

IMO, he's presented like a New Worlder with little knowledge about the Old World. He comes off as insecure like he's just half a century old and comes off as insecure and fairly clueless about how things work.

As much as I would love to praise VtmB in all respects, and I do love the character of LaCroix, he really doesn't make much sense as a character.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Sure, that whole placing tons of explosives inside the sarcophagus when you could open it without knowing sounds like a really caring foster sire and no agenda at all,

I assume that his logic is that if you were there to open it then you deserved it.

 

[Harthwain]

Sure, that whole placing tons of explosives inside the sarcophagus when you could open it without knowing sounds like a really caring foster sire and no agenda at all [...]

Does Jack ever warns you to not open the sacrophagus? I know Beckett does. And I know Jack makes some veiled suggestions that opening it is a bad idea, but I can't recall if he gives you a straight warning to not do it.

 

[DeepOcean]

The entire story is that LaCroix gives the PC progressively more absurd quests with the intention of getting rid of him. PC's rise from a fledgling to a power in his own right doesn't sit well with him. He's noveau riche, and wants to pull up the ladder behind him, much like Cicero.

I never quite felt LaCroix was presented in a manner that made sense. Your description is correct, as far as I can tell, but at the same time he's supposed to have been an officer in Napoleon's army - which makes him fairly old, from the Old World and should have seen a lot of things during his time. He should be very skilled in intrigue and information, having risen to the position he's in, and having lived since the XVIII century.

He also should not speak with an English accent and he should know how to pronounce his own name.

IMO, he's presented like a New Worlder with little knowledge about the Old World. He comes off as insecure like he's just half a century old and comes off as insecure and fairly clueless about how things work.

As much as I would love to praise VtmB in all respects, and I do love the character of LaCroix, he really doesn't make much sense as a character.

I think his function on the story was necessary (show Camarilla had alot of hypocrisy going on with alot of assholes in there that wanted power no matter what and they only needed to pretend otherwise) but I agree with you that they could have done it on a better way, Lacroix acts like a newbie and that isnt really fitting with his backstory.

 

[Infinitron]

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[Roguey]

Still cares about you a lot more than anyone else and at least he isn't using you for his own political agenda like... everyone else.

The thinblood on the beach outright states that the only people you should trust are Mercurio and Beckett.

 

[Sykar]

The entire story is that LaCroix gives the PC progressively more absurd quests with the intention of getting rid of him. PC's rise from a fledgling to a power in his own right doesn't sit well with him. He's noveau riche, and wants to pull up the ladder behind him, much like Cicero.

I never quite felt LaCroix was presented in a manner that made sense. Your description is correct, as far as I can tell, but at the same time he's supposed to have been an officer in Napoleon's army - which makes him fairly old, from the Old World and should have seen a lot of things during his time. He should be very skilled in intrigue and information, having risen to the position he's in, and having lived since the XVIII century.

He also should not speak with an English accent and he should know how to pronounce his own name.

IMO, he's presented like a New Worlder with little knowledge about the Old World. He comes off as insecure like he's just half a century old and comes off as insecure and fairly clueless about how things work.

As much as I would love to praise VtmB in all respects, and I do love the character of LaCroix, he really doesn't make much sense as a character.

I have a head canon of LaCroix just flat out lying to you about his origin. Not elegant but better than nothing.

 

[Nano]

The thinblood on the beach outright states that the only people you should trust are Mercurio and Beckett.

Who cares about what that deranged psychic chick thinks, I trust Nines with my life.