Incline Was KotOR 2 the best Obsidian game?

[Max Damage]

Direct damage force powers aren't strong in first KotoR outside of Destroy Droid, it's all about Fear line and sneak attacks.

 

[NecroLord]

Funny that their best work's central appeal was Avellone edgy writing + british stage actress voice acting, and not the actual "game" part.

Exactly

Its a little crazy when u think about it

Without MCA, no one will even care about Obsidian games. Look how quickly they dived in quality once MCA was booted out

Great writing kept their games afloat and turned them into big successes.
After MCA left, Obshitian spiralled into irrelevancy.

 

[NecroLord]

Direct damage force powers aren't strong in first KotoR outside of Destroy Droid, it's all about Fear line and sneak attacks.

Hold my Force Storm spam...

 

[Maldoror]

The Fallout: New Vegas base game and Dead Money DLC is the closest they've ever come to true excellence, and will be remembered as their cultural swansong for eternity.
Pentiment and Pillars 2 are probably their next best in line, with KOTOR 2 at around a similar level and Pillars 1 trailing far behind those.

I still need to play Alpha Protocol. I will probably enjoy it.

 

[Skinwalker]

I have soft spot for the characters and story, but those are not enough to salvage rest of the game

Yes they fucking are.


I was quite lucky to play KotoR2 first, just because I happened to come across it. I was blown away and fully immersed almost instantly, eager to uncover all the game's secrets, dialogues, plotlines, etc.

Playing KotoR1 after this made me feel like that game was made for actual retards. It's so weak and cartoonish, and I can 100% guarantee no one on the Codex would remember KotoR1 if it weren't for KotoR2. Remember Jade Empire and how often it's talked about on here? Yea, me neither.

 

[Darth Canoli]

I was quite lucky to play KotoR2 first, just because I happened to come across it. I was blown away and fully immersed almost instantly, eager to uncover all the game's secrets, dialogues, plotlines, etc.

You're obviously easily impressed given the first area from KotOR II is an absolute atrocity

We're lucky it greatly improves after the opening.
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[Feyd Rautha]

Fallout: New Vegas and Neverwinter Nights 2 + expansions are the best. KotOR2 couldn't keep me playing to the end.

 

[sebas]

I am prepared to burn at the stake:

FNV is the best Fallout

 

[Nano]

OWB is pure reddit. You could erase that DLC from history and nothing of value would be lost.

The whole talk with your brain was retarded and cringe.

Forget the writing, the entire gameplay loop in OWB was retarded and cringe from the damage sponge enemies to the Groundhog Day high school level. Baffling design choices.

 

[Nano]

Playing KotoR1 after this made me feel like that game was made for actual retards. It's so weak and cartoonish, and I can 100% guarantee no one on the Codex would remember KotoR1 if it weren't for KotoR2. Remember Jade Empire and how often it's talked about on here? Yea, me neither.

The dark side ending in KotOR 1 was more fun and memorable than anything in KotOR2

 

[notpl]

I am prepared to burn at the stake:

FNV is the best Fallout

It has better writing and quests than 1 or 2, but as Sweeper articulated well in another thread, Fallout was a total package. The gorgeous art and animations, the music, the voice acting, the simple but still obviously much better combat, even the sound effects - these things all elevate it overall.

 

[Abu Kheir]

The best thing they released was MoTB, the best games they shipped are FNV and the first Pillars.

 

[Dark Souls II]

I am prepared to burn at the stake:

FNV is the best Fallout

Fallouts 1 & 2 shit on the arcade gaming obshitian "fallout", and I don't even rate Fallouts 1 & 2 particularly high.

 

[Poseidon00]

Playing KotoR1 after this made me feel like that game was made for actual retards. It's so weak and cartoonish, and I can 100% guarantee no one on the Codex would remember KotoR1 if it weren't for KotoR2. Remember Jade Empire and how often it's talked about on here? Yea, me neither.

The dark side ending in KotOR 1 was more fun and memorable than anything in KotOR2

Crazy that people disagree with this tbh. Forcing Zaalbar to kill Mission with the force was downright disturbing.

 

[Berengar]

KOTOR2 and NV would be neck and neck for me if it wasn't for KOTOR2's awful intro section. New Vegas da champ!

 

[KörangarTheMighty]

Am I the only one who actually liked Peragus? The survival horror vibes in there were cool.

 

[Nano]

KOTOR2 and NV would be neck and neck for me if it wasn't for KOTOR2's awful intro section. New Vegas da champ!

FNV's awful intro section is the face creator.

 

[Skinwalker]

Am I the only one who actually liked Peragus? The survival horror vibes in there were cool.

I liked Peragus a lot, it was a very mysterious intro level with a number of mysteries that eventually get resolved in unexpected and satisfying ways. I also knew nothing about KotoR1, so the HK droid didn't immediately look suspicious to me until it started saying... weird things in the dialogue.

 

[Steedless]

New Vegas is their best. KOTOR 2 is great but I don't think they fleshed out the levels enough for it to beat NV.

 

[Nano]

Playing KotoR1 after this made me feel like that game was made for actual retards. It's so weak and cartoonish, and I can 100% guarantee no one on the Codex would remember KotoR1 if it weren't for KotoR2. Remember Jade Empire and how often it's talked about on here? Yea, me neither.

The dark side ending in KotOR 1 was more fun and memorable than anything in KotOR2

Crazy that people disagree with this tbh. Forcing Zaalbar to kill Mission with the force was downright disturbing.

Can only assume the NPCs rating my post reddit never actually played the dark side path in KotOR. It's the ultimate power trip, your hero gets the hot girl and the empire.

Isn't this what you people want? It's as anti-woke as you can get. Modern Bioware would never write an ending like this. Most modern developers wouldn't.

 

[Belongs_On_A_Cross]

The goth girlfriend ending of KOTOR 1 is the best ending in the series, but the competition isn't exactly stiff, and KOTOR 1 is inferior to its sequel in most other regards.

KOTOR 2's intro and ending are far behind Vegas', not that FNV's ending sequence is amazing, but at least the slides are nice. And if you're a Rav- er, Kreia fan, FNV has its own Kreia (because it's Avellone's favorite character archetype), and he isn't that much worse.

OWB sucks, though. FNV's DLC is kind of overrated in general, even if Dead Money has some good writing and Joshua Graham is cool.