Wasteland Wasteland 3 Pre-Release Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Bubbles]

 

[Zombra]

Reagan's talking car is a good idea for a CNPC, but I don't why it should be a stretch goal. "In addition to an indeterminate number of hopefully interesting CNPCs, we will add another hopefully interesting CNPC!" Wow! Gotta hit that goal!

 

[Bubbles]

sea seems eager to persuade the Watch that crowdfunding is still very much necessary:

Is he trying to persuade them to start a fundraiser? Should the Codex jump in and help him out?

 

[Spockrock]

all great ideas, InXile has probably contacted him to hire as their marketing manager

 

[Roguey]

Figfunding lets them know about investor interest up front, sure.

 

[agris]

I believe I read that this FS started with some amount of funding already provided by Fig, on the order of 1m+ USD? Does anyone know what that number is, or am I totally wrong and there was no chunk of cash dropped in at the very start?

 

[ColCol]

Inxile has turned some loved Codex Members into real pieces of trash.

 

[Ellef]

Some Codex Members have realised that inXile have turned into real pieces of trash.

 

[Infinitron]

I believe I read that this FS started with some amount of funding already provided by Fig, on the order of 1m+ USD? Does anyone know what that number is, or am I totally wrong and there was no chunk of cash dropped in at the very start?

You read that in the Codex newspost. It was ~$1.25M or thereabouts.

 

[Metal Hurlant]

It's only the fourth day of the campaign...

If this post is accurate:

then after 4 days, minus the initial 1.25 million, 642K from 13702 backers, then we're looking at a figure of around 878,000 for the investors? If it takes a minimum $1000 to be an investor than that means there's a maximum of 878 investors. So all up we have approx. 14,580 backers and investors at $1.52 million.

I was looking at some numbers from the Wasteland 2 kickstarter and after 4 days, it raised $1,237,406 and there were 22,963 backers. While less money, there was a lot more people than WL3. I think this will fizzle out for the next couple of weeks and then start up at the end as was the case with WL2. Be good to see how this all pans out.
https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/inxile/wasteland-2/#chart-daily

 

[Infinitron]

Ask the Kicktraq guy to make a Figtraq.

 

[kris]

I dont know what they really expect with backer funding here. It was one thing back with the first kickstarters that was kind of fully backer funded. for a funder you really felt like you made a difference and knew they would listen to backers (unless they make a tranny joke).

But here? The game is already funded and the funding from normal non-investor backers is reallly just a small small part of funding for a game that seems well on the way to being done. With alternative funding being way more than half their funding it is fair to say they will listen to those first and foremost. $100 backer from backwardistan? LOL, yeah they really value his opinion. And as someones personal backing dont really seem to help or stop the game from being made there is only one real reason to back this now.

To get the game for cheap, sometime in the future.

 

[Volourn]

*shrug* It was the same thing with DOS. It was well on its way to being finished. Most of these companies don't actuyally need random dinks supporting them.

 

[Infinitron]

$2,852,380
OF $2,750,000 GOAL

First stretch goal unlocked.

 

[Immortal]

Not touching Fig. I will pick this up after it releases assuming it's not shit.

 

[Volourn]

Just use Pen Pal. This FIG thing is stupid. KS isn't much better but FIG just seems annoying witht he mix of random internet dweebs and business suits investing at the same place . Yeha, I know there is nothing stopping bigwigs from putting money ijnto a KS though.

I'll probably put some money into this through PP since WL2 was fukkin' awesome no matter what the haters say because they are stupidz.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

I'll be shocked if they reach 3 million. Then again, perhaps it's for the best? Stretch goals were always the worst thing about Kickstarter, and often create more problems than they're worth. PoE being the main offender here obviously.

 

[Infinitron]

Update: https://www.fig.co/campaigns/wasteland-3?update=191#updates

Let’s Talk Multiplayer
POSTED: 10/12/2016
Hey Rangers,

Chris here. You might remember me from Wasteland 2, where I served as game director, and I am continuing that role on to Wasteland 3. As you may have picked up from our initial pitch, Wasteland 3 will have synchronous and asynchronous multiplayer. We've talked about this in the campaign and in interviews, but I'd like to go a little deeper here and lay out some of our high-level design.

We want Wasteland 3's multiplayer to be a natural extension of the single-player campaign. It will tell the same story and offer the same locations and missions. And as is our hallmark for inXile as a studio and Wasteland as a franchise, we want deep and meaningful reactivity throughout the experience. Multiplayer will add another aspect of reactivity based on the interaction between two players.

In Wasteland 3, you can start a multiplayer-specific campaign with a friend. The campaign will then be tied to both of you. Once started, you won't be able to "replace" your friend with another, but if either of you can't continue playing for any reason, it will be possible to "spin off" a single-player campaign from your multiplayer world state.

Both players run separate Ranger squads, sharing from the pool of available companion NPCs to build your teams. You can't both have the same companions, but you can move a companion from one squad to another. The two squads can travel together, but you can also split up and explore the world separately.

The ability to split up is a choice, and it has important consequences. In Wasteland 3, we will support asynchronous multiplayer. This means that if your friend goes offline, you'll still be able to continue playing, and the actions you take will be reflected in the world when your friend logs back in.

What will that mean in practice? Let's go over a scenario to illustrate.

For example: You made a deal with a criminal gang of smugglers, turning a blind eye and helping keep their trade routes clear from danger for a cut of their profits. In single-player, this would mean that you receive a payment from time to time at your Ranger Base for keeping the deal going. However, should you then choose to intercept the smugglers' courier and perform a little "civil forfeiture" for the good of the Rangers, some of the smugglers' operatives might show up at Ranger HQ's doorstep demanding an explanation.

In multiplayer, that same scenario would play out in a similar manner. However, because both you and your friend are playing independently, it would be possible for one player's party to make the deal with the smugglers, not tell the other player, and thus that player would receive compensation in return. Meanwhile, the second player might independently choose to attack the smugglers for the good of the people of Colorado, not knowing of the prior deal, and that would lead to a similar consequence where the smugglers end up at Ranger HQ asking hard questions.

How to resolve the situation, of course, would have its own reactivity and options open in solo play or multiplayer – you could stand by the decision and risk upsetting the smugglers, make reparations and risk making the Rangers look weak, choose to wipe out the smugglers at their base of operations, and so on.

You might notice we mentioned the Ranger Base a few times, and indeed, it will also be a core location in multiplayer, one that you and your friend will run together. Its resources and recruits are pooled together and available to both players. We plan to touch on the Ranger Base and how we're envisioning it more in future updates, so keep an eye out.

You might be thinking "this sounds fun, but how are they going to tell a coherent story this way, or stop my friend from completely ruining my game?!" While most of the game can be played either separately or together, during key narrative moments and missions, we'll require both players to be online together. This means that while you will be able to play most of the game together or separately, for those critical story moments, or when major story decisions need to be made, both players will need to be present. This'll happen infrequently, only at core moments in the game, and you'll be able to play many hours of main story and side missions before you need your buddy to progress. In single-player, you won't need a friend playing with you to experience those same moments, but of course, you will need to live with the decisions you make and their consequences.

First Stretch Goal Unlocked!
Last update we announced our first batch of stretch goals for Wasteland 3, and it didn't take very long for you to unlock the first! Within about a day of us funding we also knocked out the first goal at $2.85 million, meaning that37 Pieces of Flair will be added to the game, granting expanded customization options for your Ranger team!

Concept art for Morningstar. (Click for a larger version)

The next stretch goal comes at $3 million and covers Codename: Morningstar, the talking, commie-hating car companion built for President Reagan. We'd love to be able to add him to the game, so please share Wasteland 3 with your friends and help us keep the campaign rolling!

More Ranger Team Missions!
You all have been knocking down our social media stretch goals left and right! In fact, the first four went down within about an hour of us posting them. As of now, you have completed 10 Ranger Team Missions, unlocking the following rewards:

• At four stops, we'll unlock a set of high resolution shots taken from the prototype scene in the Frosty Reception video and provide these to all our backers during the campaign.
• At eight stops, an old familiar face will appear – none other than Wasteland's infamous mob boss Faran Brygo. His mighty empire now fallen, he will make a cameo appearance in Wasteland 3!

Of course, that means this first batch has been unlocked, and it's time for us to roll out more! This time we’re offering some quicker stops, with three rewards to unlock:

• At twelve stops, we will add a new weapon called the Spitfire, to be detailed as the goal is passed.
• At fourteen stops, we add a Ranger Star keychain to every copy of the Collector’s Edition.
• At sixteen stops, we add the Emancipator a new weapon that’ll be detailed and shown as the goal is passed.

STASIS and UnderRail also on GOG.com
As you may recall, during the first 48 hours of the campaign we offered a free copy of either STASIS or UnderRail to early backers. We were initially offering Steam keys only, but many of you requested a choice for GOG.com keys, and we heard you! We were able to get in touch with GOG.com and the games' developers, and we're now pleased to say we will be offering the option for GOG.com keys for those two bonus games as well.

PayPal Reminder
We mentioned previously that we would be rolling out PayPal support, as many of you requested. As a reminder, we've partnered with CrowdOx to offer a separate backing option for PayPal. You can find that by clicking here:



We will be periodically adding the totals from CrowdOx to the Fig counter, and vice-versa, so both sites should be relatively in sync as far as pledge totals go. Thanks to everyone who has supported us using PayPal, and if you have friends who were waiting for PayPal, you can let them know the option is now available.

Chris Keenan
VP of Development

 

[StrongBelwas]

So assuming a six seven man party and no ability to create your own companions, there are at least 10 12 companions in the game?

If its the same missions for the singleplayer and mutliplayer, isn't the game either going to be piss easy(Well, more than usual) with 14 people or a nightmare in singleplayer/when your friend is offline? And that is ignoring skill checks,economy, etc.

 

[Bubbles]

Both players run separate Ranger squads, sharing from the pool of available companion NPCs to build your teams. You can't both have the same companions, but you can move a companion from one squad to another. The two squads can travel together, but you can also split up and explore the world separately.

So, can you have 14 player characters fighting in a battle? Or is your party size split in half, similar to D:OS? If so, what's the new single player party size? Because it obviously couldn't be seven.

Both players run separate Ranger squads, sharing from the pool of available companion NPCs to build your teams.

I might be wrong, but this phrasing gives me the impression that there'll only be a single player made character in each party.

 

[Zombra]

So assuming a six seven man party and no ability to create your own companions, there are at least 10 12 companions in the game?

Mathematically correct, but these assumptions are baseless at this point.

 

[Bubbles]

Another thing: the update mentioned that there will be some sort of time mechanic (necessary for the recurring payments from the smugglers). How will that work with multiple teams? They obviously can't implement travelling times, and I'm guessing they're not too keen on day/night cycles either. Does time advance by doing quests, similar to PoE's turn mechanic? If so, the time mechanic would have to be pretty limited to make sure that one player doing quests can't screw things up for the other player (i.e. by advancing time at a bad moment).

 

[Roguey]

Chris here. You might remember me from Wasteland 2, where I served as game director, and I am continuing that role on to Wasteland 3.

Nailed it.

 

[J_C]

Both players run separate Ranger squads, sharing from the pool of available companion NPCs to build your teams.

I might be wrong, but this phrasing gives me the impression that there'll only be a single player made character in each party.

In my reading it means that there will be a pool of companions the players can choose from, but that doesn't exclude player created characters at all.

 

[Atchodas]

If you played Turdland2 you knew how bad those 'pool of companions the players can choose from' are , they were so bad noone even remember them being there in first place