Disco-Like We are reaching Disco-like saturation

[Fedora Master]

 

[Nifft Batuff]

This thread convinced me to give Disco a try. So far I played it for a couple of hours. It's surprisingly good.

 

[Tyranicon]

A question for disco-lovers: how did a group of Estonian (?) writers end up writing an english script?

I'm curious how the process worked. Were they fluent enough in English to just do it themselves, or was there a heavy translation period?

 

[JarlFrank]

A question for disco-lovers: how did a group of Estonian (?) writers end up writing an english script?

I'm curious how the process worked. Were they fluent enough in English to just do it themselves, or was there a heavy translation period?

I'm German and am a published author in English (published by other people who paid me money for the right to print my stories, not just self-pubbed), it's not at all odd to me that non-native English speakers would write an entire text-heavy game in English.

I'd assume those writers were fluent enough themselves, had they written it in Estonian and translated it, Estonian would be a supported language for the game, but you can see on the Steam page that it isn't.

It's probably far more common for foreign authors to write in English than to write in their native language and then translate, especially in the game dev space. How many people would buy a text-heavy RPG in Estonian? Wasted labor.

 

[GhostInTheHell]

Are any of these disco-likes even good? If it's just another Dragon Age-like, Fallout-like, or Cyberpunk-like, then I'm not interested. Speculative fiction has done so much in the literature and roleplaying spaces that video game stories usually just bore me.

Sadly, only a few even have the potential to be good.

Most can be excluded immediately.

• Longdue Studios: as their narrative director they chose Grant K. Roberts, the lead scriptwriter on woke slop (that went flop) Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League, out of all people.
  Nobody that worked on DE is working on this according to Argo Tuulik, former writer on Disco Elysium that briefly consulted for Longdue.
  Riaz Moola, the studio director, is also the director of CoGrammar (aka HyperionDev, apparently some scam-like coding bootcamp).
  He is also suing Argo Tuulik and Dora Klindžić, he wanted a C-suite position at Summer Eternal, another of the post-Disco studios. There's a fundraiser going on now for Argo's legal fees.
  
  
• Dark Math Games (likely Kaur Kender) is making the game with the tacky name XXX Nightshift. Both Riaz Moola and Argo Tuulik have invested in this studio, too.
  Has been found to contain some rainbow flag propaganda (https://www.gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/XXX-NIGHTSHIFT_2024_10-11-24_002.jpg "KGBT+" - immersion breaking present day politics).
  
  
• Rue Valley: confirmed woke slop from Serbia (?!). Has nothing to do with Disco Elysium devs.

Some still have some potential:

• Red Info Ltd who haven't announced anything yet. While founded by Kurvitz and Rostov, it was "with backing of Chinese publisher NetEase"... I guess some subjects will be off-limits now.
  
  
• Summer Eternal at least has some staff from ZA/UM (Argo Tuulik, Olga Moskvina, and Dora Klindzic).
  This studio can't get to work until April 2024 because of Riaz Moola's lawsuit (see above).
  Unfortunately it will also probably lack any narrative nuance and will likely be a very toxic workplace for regular workers, going by the announcement: "time to roll up our sleeves and start building communism!"
  
  
• Travelling at Night: potentially woke slop but not confirmed yet. Has nothing to do with Disco Elysium devs.

(not mentioning here games that already released and turned out to be crap like Gamedec)

 

[flabbyjack]

I fucking HATE detective games, and shows. It's always so contrived. Disco was OK I guess.

Monk was better.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

I fucking HATE detective games, and shows.

Season 1 only, though

 

[Odoryuk]

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Being able to play visual novels with one hand is a feature, actually

 

[Harthwain]

I fucking HATE detective games, and shows. It's always so contrived. Disco was OK I guess.

Monk was better.

Problem with detective games that they aren't really detective games. Even Disco Elysium isn't true a detective game. You simply play the role of a detective, but that's about it. Shadows of Doubt seems to be the best game of this kind that came out recently (as flawed as it is). After that is The Consuming Shadow (which isn't really meant to be a detective game, but utilizes the deduction elements in a phenomenal way). And after that I couldn't even name a fitting game.

 

[Roguey]

A question for disco-lovers: how did a group of Estonian (?) writers end up writing an english script?

I'm curious how the process worked. Were they fluent enough in English to just do it themselves, or was there a heavy translation period?

Robert is as fluent in English as any European Codexer.

 

[Shaki]

I fucking HATE detective games, and shows. It's always so contrived. Disco was OK I guess.

Monk was better.

Problem with detective games that they aren't really detective games. Even Disco Elysium isn't true a detective game. You simply play the role of a detective, but that's about it. Shadows of Doubt seems to be the best game of this kind that came out recently (as flawed as it is). After that is The Consuming Shadow (which isn't really meant to be a detective game, but utilizes the deduction elements in a phenomenal way). And after that I couldn't even name a fitting game.

Obviously, the Codex's favourite cRPG - Witcher 3 - is also the best detective game, with its thrilling investgations powered by Witcher Senses™

 

[Butter]

A good detective game requires a very high level of interactivity. You should be able to ask a suspect anything. You should be able to inspect each and every object at the crime scene. Most games don't even trust you to put the pieces together on your own; LA Noire plays a jingle when you pass by a piece of evidence to make sure you inspect it, and that's still leagues better than Witcher Sense.

 

[Skinwalker]

LA Noire plays a jingle when you pass by a piece of evidence to make sure you inspect it

Aw shiieeeet, can I disable that in gameplay options?

 

[Sweeper]

Season 1 only, though

In a lot of ways it was worse than the second season. Rust's constant "but muh nihilism" shit really fucking wears you out. It's the kinda shit that can only appeal to an angsty high schooler.

 

[KeAShizuku]

Careful "Game doesn't support my politics/religion so it shouldn't exist" is very communist.

 

[Orange Clock]

I fucking HATE detective games, and shows. It's always so contrived. Disco was OK I guess.

Monk was better.

Problem with detective games that they aren't really detective games. Even Disco Elysium isn't true a detective game. You simply play the role of a detective, but that's about it. Shadows of Doubt seems to be the best game of this kind that came out recently (as flawed as it is). After that is The Consuming Shadow (which isn't really meant to be a detective game, but utilizes the deduction elements in a phenomenal way). And after that I couldn't even name a fitting game.

Obviously, the Codex's favourite cRPG - Witcher 3 - is also the best detective game, with its thrilling investgations powered by Witcher Senses™

Witcher 1 had a competent detective quest/plot in the 2 chapter tho

 

[Tyranicon]

Robert is as fluent in English as any European Codexer.

Is this video good enough to invest 30 minutes skipping around it?

 

[Sweeper]

 

[kangaxx]

I may actually be one of the very few who has not even played Disco Elysium?

I uninstalled and refunded after my character died trying to retrieve his underwear from a ceiling fan inside 5 minutes.

Retarded "gameplay".

 

[mediocrepoet]

I may actually be one of the very few who has not even played Disco Elysium?

I uninstalled and refunded after my character died trying to retrieve his underwear from a ceiling fan inside 5 minutes.

Retarded "gameplay".

I did that the first time I tried it after getting suckered by the storyfags around here.

I later decided to give it a second try after their bleating about how great it is. Uninstalled after about a half hour because it's basically the modernization of Police Quest -> Loser Quest.

 

[harhar!]

I may actually be one of the very few who has not even played Disco Elysium?

I uninstalled and refunded after my character died trying to retrieve his underwear from a ceiling fan inside 5 minutes.

Retarded "gameplay".

Filtered by a ceiling fan.

 

[Swen]

Probably be seeing BG3 clones (but far lower production values) coming up in the future as well.

Solasta II will be one