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KickStarter We need more buttons
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Codex doesn't scale to our level. :/
Came into this thread to see wtf is up with the fucking "sheeeeit" button that just appeared. Hmm.
That button is not indicative of the Codex I signed up for, and it's not indicative of a community I want to participate in. There is a massive difference between being a community that supports the free-speech right of an individual to vocalize hateful rhetoric and being a community that actively endorses the vocalization of hateful rhetoric.
The "sheeeeeit" button crosses that line for me.
I want to be clear that I love this forum. It is, without exaggeration, my favorite place on the internet, but I cannot in good conscience continue to participate here if this is the sort of thing that the administration finds amusing.
DarkUnderlord : You once wrote an editorial that I very much admired. The gist of it was "I am constantly offended by the shit that you morons say, but I am still firmly committed to the ideal of near absolutist free-speech... But there is a limit."
Well, this is my limit.
I believe that my post history here shows that I am a poster who has tried to engage with topics substantively and critically (and admittedly occasionally drunkenly). My hope and aim when posting has always been that I elevate the quality of discourse, that I recognize intelligence, wit, and particularly good-faith as admirable qualities (even when I disagree with the poster), and that I act as a bulwark against the histrionic shrieking of those who purely wish to manipulate our hobby to push a particular cultural or political agenda.
The implementation of this button makes me think that I have been an utter fool. If this button is indeed endorsed by the administration then I request an immediate ejection.
That button is not indicative of the Codex I signed up for, and it's not indicative of a community I want to participate in. There is a massive difference between being a community that supports the free-speech right of an individual to vocalize hateful rhetoric and being a community that actively endorses the vocalization of hateful rhetoric.
The "sheeeeeit" button crosses that line for me.
I want to be clear that I love this forum. It is, without exaggeration, my favorite place on the internet, but I cannot in good conscience continue to participate here if this is the sort of thing that the administration finds amusing.
DarkUnderlord : You once wrote an editorial that I very much admired. The gist of it was "I am constantly offended by the shit that you morons say, but I am still firmly committed to the ideal of near absolutist free-speech... But there is a limit."
Well, this is my limit.
I believe that my post history here shows that I am a poster who has tried to engage with topics substantively and critically (and admittedly occasionally drunkenly). My hope and aim when posting has always been that I elevate the quality of discourse, that I recognize intelligence, wit, and particularly good-faith as admirable qualities (even when I disagree with the poster), and that I act as a bulwark against the histrionic shrieking of those who purely wish to manipulate our hobby to push a particular cultural or political agenda.
The implementation of this button makes me think that I have been an utter fool. If this button is indeed endorsed by the administration then I request an immediate ejection.
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Kalin was just racist towards the wrong groups.
Wunderbar
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Alex
Arcane
Can we get a "bye" button?
Oracsbox
Guest
I just thought/assumed the sheeeiit button was just one of DarkUnderlord's jokes on the codex and would probably be gone in a couple of days anyway.
Latro
Arcane
this new button only makes me think of one thing:
Faarbaute
Arbiter
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Sorry, but the Cheka allready has your name on the list.
SomethingAwful is a warning example of our times. I browse the forum as a lurker and the things I see there...I would not wish upon the Codex. It's like a cute dog, full of ticks. From a distance the place looks fun and witty, but then you notice them - the cliche-spewing libtards. Border control = fascist. True equality = fascist. Free speech = fascist. Sexy women = toxic masculinity. Any presence of police enforcement = fascism. The reason it became what it is today is, I believe, that because of certain infrastructural changes and new PC policies it began to attract the very type that snuffed out its free spirit. The socialites, if you will.
So the point is that Codex should remain sufficiently unwelcoming to these true fascists, or else the same WILL happen here. Codex would become Resetera, the gaming focused version of SA.
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HeroMarine
Irenaeus
Could be worse. There could be a button based on your furry avatar.
Gregz
Arcane
This is a valid point. Sometimes it's nice to escape the knowledge that we are all slaves to clown world.
Lemming42
Arcane
A "DEFENCE" OF THE SHEEEIITT BUTTON
Agreed with the people saying this new button is a bad move, but we all need to face reality together - the site has been in a sorry state for years now and it gets worse every year. This used to be the best place to read about and discuss games on the whole internet, IMO. Nowadays, it's the best place to watch as games discussions derail instantly into a sea of tired months-old /pol/ memes. Said it before, saying it again: you get about as much actual games discussion here as you do on the likes of ResetERA - that is to say, almost none. Half a page of actual gaming talk if you're lucky, then 20 pages of sperging about how there's a "tranny" in the game (which probably turns out to just be a woman with a strong jaw or something). The only difference between us and RetardERA is the exact strain of boring nonsense fringe IDpol shit that each discussion devolves into.
The Outer Worlds was a new RPG developed by Tim Cain et al. Big deal, right? We should have been the net's primo site for properly in-depth discussion (and criticism, given how much the game sucked), but what did we get instead? A grand pants-shitting festival in reaction to short hairstyles for female characters. "Oh no, this game doesn't have the hairstyles I wanted!!!" is a topic relegated entirely to two groups: preteen girls discussing The Sims, and middle-aged white nationalists on the Codex.
People on this site can manage to turn a discussion about Crash Bandicoot into a mad panic about the fertility rates of whites in Europe. Any fucking game, always the same result. Many people here don't even appear to play videogames anymore, and only follow the hobby so they can look at the latest trailers and shit themselves in blinding fear and rage when a black character pops up on screen. They will never play the game. These same people will unironically and obliviously continue to complain about how SJWs ruined the hobby in the early 2010s by bringing politics into it without actually playing games. The pot is calling the kettle black, and then making racist memes about it.
The site's reputation has been in absolute tatters for ages, and the point of no return was passed so long ago that I bet none of us even remember what it looked like. So the sheeeeit button is irrelevant in the long run. At this point, you could take Stormfront's "every month is white history month" photoshop-disaster banner and stick it at the top of the page as a replacement for the Codex dice troll, and it wouldn't reduce this site's reputation much lower than it already is (and has been for years).
The Codex's value nowadays is similar to SomethingAwful and the aforementioned ResetERA - an interactive cautionary tale, a piece of unintentional comedy performance art, a human zoo, a monument to how badly a community can end up. We are the virtual equivalent of one of those abaondoned ghost towns out in the desert, where people hoped to build a dream and instead ended up in a living nightmare. The sheeeeit button should stay, because it adds to this aspect. As Zombra said - and I agree - it proves people's suspicions about the site correct, but: a) it's not like you won't find the same exact image posted somewhere after about thirty seconds of browsing the site, because many people here are locked in a mid-2010s culture war that never ends, with years-old memes to suit, and b) that's the effect we should be going for at this point. We're a living joke, human warnings, and unless there's a revolution in the userbase and the type of people using the site, we always will be. Time to embrace oblivion - both the Bethesda-developed 2006 era-defining classic, and the moribund, void-bound future of the Codex.
Agreed with the people saying this new button is a bad move, but we all need to face reality together - the site has been in a sorry state for years now and it gets worse every year. This used to be the best place to read about and discuss games on the whole internet, IMO. Nowadays, it's the best place to watch as games discussions derail instantly into a sea of tired months-old /pol/ memes. Said it before, saying it again: you get about as much actual games discussion here as you do on the likes of ResetERA - that is to say, almost none. Half a page of actual gaming talk if you're lucky, then 20 pages of sperging about how there's a "tranny" in the game (which probably turns out to just be a woman with a strong jaw or something). The only difference between us and RetardERA is the exact strain of boring nonsense fringe IDpol shit that each discussion devolves into.
The Outer Worlds was a new RPG developed by Tim Cain et al. Big deal, right? We should have been the net's primo site for properly in-depth discussion (and criticism, given how much the game sucked), but what did we get instead? A grand pants-shitting festival in reaction to short hairstyles for female characters. "Oh no, this game doesn't have the hairstyles I wanted!!!" is a topic relegated entirely to two groups: preteen girls discussing The Sims, and middle-aged white nationalists on the Codex.
People on this site can manage to turn a discussion about Crash Bandicoot into a mad panic about the fertility rates of whites in Europe. Any fucking game, always the same result. Many people here don't even appear to play videogames anymore, and only follow the hobby so they can look at the latest trailers and shit themselves in blinding fear and rage when a black character pops up on screen. They will never play the game. These same people will unironically and obliviously continue to complain about how SJWs ruined the hobby in the early 2010s by bringing politics into it without actually playing games. The pot is calling the kettle black, and then making racist memes about it.
The site's reputation has been in absolute tatters for ages, and the point of no return was passed so long ago that I bet none of us even remember what it looked like. So the sheeeeit button is irrelevant in the long run. At this point, you could take Stormfront's "every month is white history month" photoshop-disaster banner and stick it at the top of the page as a replacement for the Codex dice troll, and it wouldn't reduce this site's reputation much lower than it already is (and has been for years).
The Codex's value nowadays is similar to SomethingAwful and the aforementioned ResetERA - an interactive cautionary tale, a piece of unintentional comedy performance art, a human zoo, a monument to how badly a community can end up. We are the virtual equivalent of one of those abaondoned ghost towns out in the desert, where people hoped to build a dream and instead ended up in a living nightmare. The sheeeeit button should stay, because it adds to this aspect. As Zombra said - and I agree - it proves people's suspicions about the site correct, but: a) it's not like you won't find the same exact image posted somewhere after about thirty seconds of browsing the site, because many people here are locked in a mid-2010s culture war that never ends, with years-old memes to suit, and b) that's the effect we should be going for at this point. We're a living joke, human warnings, and unless there's a revolution in the userbase and the type of people using the site, we always will be. Time to embrace oblivion - both the Bethesda-developed 2006 era-defining classic, and the moribund, void-bound future of the Codex.
catfood
AGAIN
Now that we have both
sheeeeiiiit and
Math! we can finally do the fusion move
and combine them both into the much requested
:science: button.
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HeroMarine
Irenaeus
Now that we have bothsheeeeiiiit andMath! we can finally do the fusion moveand combine them both into the much requested:science: button.
Yes, Codex has an established reputation as a Nazi lair, and it helps that DU at least claims to be for free speech. From what I've heard Taxalot was either indifferent to politics as long as the money flowed, or against free speech for personal reasons. What DU says now may change after Codex's population has had some major changes over time, and yes, SA was also an unwelcoming place for its current members, once.
A retard is a retard though, whether they say 'nigger' or 'BLM'. I thought the Codex was a prestigious place where puerile outbursts where frowned upon, no matter their political leanings. From that perspective I understand the staffs reactions, even if they didn't think some casual 'nigger's would endanger Codex's existence.
HeroMarine
Irenaeus
I have to disagree. Don't forget that the people you complain about don't have many alternatives to Codex if they wish to (shit)post about politics where they also read and post about the intricacies of gaming. They had no choice but to migrate here, some of them only post about politics but so what? Their foibles must be tolerated as a necessary evil, or else the enforced political correctness will favor the other side. It always does. Anyone who's serious about RPGs won't mind that they're here, and I reckon they have more in common with the alt-retards than with libtards.
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I don't get the crowd that sayd the sheeeiiit button is distasteful.
This is a meme because the actor that played Clay Davis in The Wire killed it and was awesome. We love the way he said it. I hear it every time I see the button lol.
It boggles the mind how something so extremely positive as the appreciation of black artists is twisted in the mind of holier-than-thou posters that have racism for lenses. You have to want to see it negatively to be outraged. This is basically a nigger-appreciator button (not to say nigger-lover even). Yes, we appreciate even the stereotype.
If you love your fellow nig, why don't you love your fellow nig button, guys? Or are you racists? Now that would be distasteful.
Cheers!
This is a meme because the actor that played Clay Davis in The Wire killed it and was awesome. We love the way he said it. I hear it every time I see the button lol.
It boggles the mind how something so extremely positive as the appreciation of black artists is twisted in the mind of holier-than-thou posters that have racism for lenses. You have to want to see it negatively to be outraged. This is basically a nigger-appreciator button (not to say nigger-lover even). Yes, we appreciate even the stereotype.
If you love your fellow nig, why don't you love your fellow nig button, guys? Or are you racists? Now that would be distasteful.
I don't get the crowd that sayd the sheeeiiit button is distasteful.
This is a meme because the actor that played Clay Davis in The Wire killed it and was awesome. We love the way he said it. I hear it every time I see the button lol.
It boggles the mind how something so extremely positive as the appreciation of black artists is twisted in the mind of holier-than-thou posters that have racism for lenses. You have to want to see it negatively to be outraged. This is basically a nigger-appreciator button (not to say nigger-lover even). Yes, we appreciate even the stereotype.
If you love your fellow nig, why don't you love your fellow nig button, guys? Or are you racists? Now that would be distasteful.
Cheers!
Clay Davis has nothing in common with the jigaboo depicted by that button, except for the phrase and pigmentation. In fact he's an antithesis of a "nigger". This kind of distinction is rarely seen by the racists.
Lambach
Arcane
Hopefully, this button will finally cause the self-ejection of all of these types:
I see @<3sRichardSimmons has already volunteered, so the button seems to be massive incline all around.
I see @<3sRichardSimmons has already volunteered, so the button seems to be massive incline all around.
HeroMarine
Irenaeus
Man, you should know better than discriminating between niggas!I don't get the crowd that sayd the sheeeiiit button is distasteful.
This is a meme because the actor that played Clay Davis in The Wire killed it and was awesome. We love the way he said it. I hear it every time I see the button lol.
It boggles the mind how something so extremely positive as the appreciation of black artists is twisted in the mind of holier-than-thou posters that have racism for lenses. You have to want to see it negatively to be outraged. This is basically a nigger-appreciator button (not to say nigger-lover even). Yes, we appreciate even the stereotype.
If you love your fellow nig, why don't you love your fellow nig button, guys? Or are you racists? Now that would be distasteful.
Cheers!
Clay Davis has nothing in common with the jigaboo depicted by that button, except for the phrase and pigmentation. In fact he's an antithesis of a "nigger". This kind of distinction is rarely seen by the racists.
Man, you should know better than discriminating between niggas!I don't get the crowd that sayd the sheeeiiit button is distasteful.
This is a meme because the actor that played Clay Davis in The Wire killed it and was awesome. We love the way he said it. I hear it every time I see the button lol.
It boggles the mind how something so extremely positive as the appreciation of black artists is twisted in the mind of holier-than-thou posters that have racism for lenses. You have to want to see it negatively to be outraged. This is basically a nigger-appreciator button (not to say nigger-lover even). Yes, we appreciate even the stereotype.
If you love your fellow nig, why don't you love your fellow nig button, guys? Or are you racists? Now that would be distasteful.
Cheers!
Clay Davis has nothing in common with the jigaboo depicted by that button, except for the phrase and pigmentation. In fact he's an antithesis of a "nigger". This kind of distinction is rarely seen by the racists.
Looks like I've been the racist.
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