What if we split the Codex into two sites: RPG Codex + Political Codex?

[A horse of course]

ERIGN??

Bless you

 

[IDtenT]

Ginger Niger engineer engineering engine.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Erign Returns?

 

[Reinhardt]

Ok,ok, i get it. Ban everyone wih tags except Kalin.

 

[Bester]

I hope DU understands people quite literally when they vote "over my dead body" and fucking kills their accounts.

 

[fork]

I must say I feel kinda sorry for people who donated recently if they actually kill the Codex, lel.

 

[Delterius]

i believe in the dark underlord administration

 

[Reinhardt]

Btw codex stopped responding for ~5 min today for me so i guess they already working on splitting.

 

[Duralux for Durabux]

This forum is a Honeypot.

 

[Malamert]

I must say I feel kinda sorry for people who donated recently if they actually kill the Codex, lel.

Paycucks getting shafted yet again. What a surprise.

 

[Delterius]

i believe in the dark underlord administration

in fact i believe in it so hard I refuse to vote

good luck to you guys though

 

[Commissar Draco]

Is this the time to close bunker doors already?

 

[Ol' Willy]

Splitting the site seems extreme, but gotta say it does get tiresome to open an RPG thread and stumble upon 15 pages of rambling about muh SJWs or whatever. Why not just restrict the access to the politicial subforum to eliminate the newfags with fresh account and no posts about videogames.

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/underrail-the-incline-awakens.105387/
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/the-might-and-magic-discussion-thread.42757/
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/battle-brothers-now-with-blazing-deserts-dlc.114394/
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/ssis-gold-box-series-thread.61389/

Show me "15 pages of rambling" in these threads, for example

Don't counterargument me with examples from threads about pozzed games, they had it coming anyway

 

[Delterius]

allow me to cherry pick my examples also remember that extra data is haram in this conversation

 

[Tacgnol]

Splitting the site seems extreme, but gotta say it does get tiresome to open an RPG thread and stumble upon 15 pages of rambling about muh SJWs or whatever. Why not just restrict the access to the politicial subforum to eliminate the newfags with fresh account and no posts about videogames.

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/underrail-the-incline-awakens.105387/
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/the-might-and-magic-discussion-thread.42757/
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/battle-brothers-now-with-blazing-deserts-dlc.114394/
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/ssis-gold-box-series-thread.61389/

Show me "15 pages of rambling" in these threads, for example

Don't counterargument me with examples from threads about pozzed games, they had it coming anyway

Very often the "political" arguments is the only thing worth discussing in pozzed games because they are so bad.

Also virtue signalling is bad writing. Are we not allowed to talk about bad writing in games now?

 

[Ol' Willy]

allow me to cherry pick my examples also remember that extra data is haram in this conversation

Yeah, you can cite CP77 threads (which is not and RPG but this is another talk); why do people discuss politics there? Maybe because developers themselves were pandering to woke crowd and tweeting pearls like "trans rights are human rights!11"?

But then we can check some Twitcher threads and find out that politics are discussed there much less, if any. Why so? Because devs weren't infected back then?

 

[Zibniyat]

DU's attitude and choices, up until now, could be described as commendable. The Codex is one of rare, English language speaking forums where we don't have to constantly virtue signal and pretend how we are progressive and therefore, supposedly, good.

But this proposal is simply dishonest, and not even because it is just a tacit acceptance of defeat and cowardliness, but also because nobody who may be said to be intelligent is actually deluded that much to think politics is somehow miraculously outside art & entertainment, and how therefore it must not be brought into discussion.

The driving force behind the OP is just worry or perhaps fear, certainly not "increasing the quality of discussions" as it is being presented as.

Meanwhile, leftists and "neutrals" all agree:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikka...s-be-political-the-answer-is-complicated/amp/

A excerpt:

We should think about these issues and what they mean on the broader political stage. A video game is a great way to get people thinking, asking questions, examining the world they live in and the history that came before us.

Certainly we could have a game that raises issues like immigration, racism, sexism and so forth, but stamping current political figures or trends into a game or film dates it quickly.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikka...down-in-the-division-2-email/?sh=5b76d1f5648a

In doing so, the multinational corporation made a pretty startling gaffe. The email itself was fairly benign, but the subject line read:

Come see what a real government shutdown looks like in the Private Beta.

A “real” government shutdown? Really? I get that the game is a post-apocalyptic shooter about a time when the government is barely functioning, but come on. It’s a video game.

Wherein developers and publishers deliberately introduced some specific political aspect into their game.

https://amp.theguardian.com/games/2...e-political-heres-how-they-can-be-progressive

But video games can and should be put to work for leftwing politics at this moment of cultural and political uncertainty. Many games communicate progressive values in their narrative and content – but if they are to go further, we must reimagine what a game could look like.

https://www.eurogamer.net/amp/2019-08-14-why-we-now-talk-about-politics-in-games-so-much

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/amp/2019-08-15-stop-asking-is-it-political-it-always-is-opinion

Etc.

So here are the real conclusions here:

- games do incorporate politics, by virtue of being creations of man, and man is inherently a political animal (of varying degree, hence varying introduction of politics into games, but there never is absence of it);
- if a game has so-called progressive ideas and politics incorporated, then it is completely OK to speak of it all at length in positive terms; otherwise, if a game dares to be so-called conservative, it should be panned; likewise, if a game has "progressive" ideas in it, it is forbidden to discuss them in negative terms;
- so it is fine if a game has an array of LGBT characters, and you are not supposed to criticise that from a religious, ethical, philosophical or political standpoint; you may criticise it from the point of view of "character realism" for instance... for now.

Let's face it, games can have and do have politics. It just so happens that cuckservatives don't really care about that so long as it isn't overt and isn't progressive too much, so they can have their fun with their RPG #48427 that has men and women with the same stats (soooo immersive). But discussing it from a relatively conservative, much less traditionalist perspective, is a taboo and we must split the Codex into however many sites until the only thing people will be able to discuss about games will be its stupid graphics, control scheme of some autism about "mechanics" completely devoid of any realism that necessarily should be present if we are having character of different genders, ethnicities, races and what have you.

Your pitiful attempt at disguising this as anything other than capitulation to "progress" is easily seen through DU, and frankly I don't even care about that, only about this dishonesty on your part that nobody should be accepting of.

 

[Tacgnol]

allow me to cherry pick my examples also remember that extra data is haram in this conversation

I'm genuinely curious and not being (purposefully) facetious, but can you provide an example of a woke game with otherwise strong redeeming features that has 15 straight pages (or a lot of) political discussion going on?

I honestly can't think of any game threads like that. Normally the political discussion happens in mediocre game threads where there is nothing else of value to discuss.

 

[Delterius]

I'm genuinely curious and not being (purposefully) facetious, but can you provide an example of a woke game with otherwise strong redeeming features that has 15 straight pages (or a lot of) political discussion going on?

Pillars has about twenty seven million man hours of posting dedicated just to the dwarf lady whose tribe's men focus on raising kids and teaching them professions (somehow an unmanly activity for the born past 1990 trad crowd).

I don't even care anymore to be honest, there's maybe one or two threads on this whole website where I can get some actual discussion over the games themselves. I've made peace with that fact. The Codex was always a cesspool. But its fast approaching the status of an useless cesspool. 4chan focuses more on game mechanics than this CIA honeypot have in years.

The obvious solution is to turn the Codex into a political forum with hidden subforums like the Gazebo and General RPG Discussion. Containment areas is too passé. Gated communities is where its at.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Pillars

strong redeeming features

 

[Delterius]

Oh look. Another shitpost. Yawn.

 

[Tacgnol]

I'm genuinely curious and not being (purposefully) facetious, but can you provide an example of a woke game with otherwise strong redeeming features that has 15 straight pages (or a lot of) political discussion going on?

Pillars has about twenty seven million man hours of posting dedicated just to the dwarf lady whose tribe's men focus on raising kids and teaching them professions (somehow an unmanly activity for the born past 1990 trad crowd) rather than hunting.

I don't even care anymore to be honest, there's maybe one or two threads on this whole website where I can get some actual discussion over the games themselves. I've made peace with that fact. The Codex was always a cesspool. But its fast approaching the status of an useless cesspool. 4chan focuses more on game mechanics than this CIA honeypot have in years.

The obvious solution is to turn the Codex into a political forum with hidden subforums like the Gazebo and General RPG Discussion. Containment areas is too passé. Gated communities is where its at.

Pillars was a major disappointment to many on this forum, it doesn't exactly surprise me that people went off on tangents about the content after being so disappointed by the base game.

Also I remember plenty of discussion about the gameplay going on in those threads.

 

[Lambach]

The Jews finally got to DarkUnderlord . It was fun while it lasted, bois.

 

[Sranchammer]

A house divided against itself cannot stand!

 

[Marat]

What if we split the Codex into two sites: RPG Codex + Political Codex?

Then people would argue over RPGs in the Political Codex and about politics in RPG Codex.