Which programming language did you choose and why?

[PorkyThePaladin]

Btw, that's another beautiful thing about Python that a lot of people don't appreciate, the ability to switch between procedural and OOP on the fly. A lot of OOP languages force you to use classes in every instance, which is completely unnecessary, and in fact makes it harder to code, as you have to think about what class to put some clearly procedural code into. Meanwhile purely procedural languages like C completely miss out on the advantages of OOP. In Python, just use whatever is the best approach, procedural code goes into functions, reusable code goes into classes, perfecto.

 

[Gammer]

you can write OOP in pure C with a few custom types and v-tables, you can also write c++ without defining any classes

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

If you could write OOP in pure C, they wouldn't have created C++, eh grandma? There is a lot of shit you can do with some duct type, doesn't mean the language supports it.

 

[Gammer]

https://github.com/QuantumLeaps/OOP-in-C

 

[tomphonse]

No one in game dev is using Python.
The class keyword in C++ is just doing doing a bunch hack shit in C in the background to give you what you know of as an object.
Competent C developers also know how to do this, just like they know how to make the equivalent of an std::vector.
Quake is written in C but uses polymorphism.
https://fabiensanglard.net/quake2/quake2Polymorphism.php

 

[Cerulean]

Not disagreeing, but I think this is interesting... Python is never used for the core of the engine (that's almost always C/C++ as a far as I know), but Python has been used before for game logic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Python_(programming_language)-scripted_video_games

I recall Eve Online used a variant of Python called "Stackless" which was used for a ton of that MMO's logic.

Anyway, it's probably a lot more common to use Lua now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lua_(programming_language)-scripted_video_games

 

[Catacombs]

No one in game dev is using Python.

At all?

 

[tomphonse]

At all?

I mean there are some itch io projects I am sure made using pygame. But lets just say that in SoftEng majors related to GameDev python isn't taught at all except for explaining basic programing fundamentals, although a lot will prefer to actually start with C/C++. There is a split on whether its better to learn more simple and abstract higher level languages and then move on to lower level and vice versa. Also there are no game dev related job listings using python save for Generative AI stuff.

In terms of scripting Lua is king and in terms of high-level languages that are higher than C#/Java most would go with Javascript over Python and make it in the browser. JS Has way more game related libs than Python

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

Godot, the game engine, uses a scripting language that's basically Python with better multithreading support. The syntax is Python.

For the morons pushing the idea that C supports OOP, again, if it did, why would C++ become a thing? Just because you can hack something together in some language, doesn't mean it supports that something. It's like tacking a plane engine onto a Prius and claiming it's a racing car.

 

[Sweeper]

I ain't know shit about programming, but I do know, if Porky is arguing a point just automatically agree with whomever he's arguing against.

 

[Sweeper]

Thanks Porky.

 

[tomphonse]

People aren't choosing or not choosing to use Python because of its syntax. Syntax is not what matters.
People don't use python because it's incredibly slow and there are few game and rendering related libraries and frameworks for it.
GDScript using a similar syntax to Python doesn't mean anything, it has no relation to its underlying systems such as performance, garbage collection etc.

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

Well, listen, people used to say all that about Java too, and then Notch made a game in Java and sold it for 2.5 billion dollars to Microsoft. Meanwhile code-monkeys like you keep plugging away at some autistic shit.

 

[what am i doing]

People aren't choosing or not choosing to use Python because of its syntax. Syntax is not what matters.

I'll be honest I find Python's syntax garbage enough that I wouldn't use it even if I was in the market for some lightweight scripting type thing.

 

[Yuber]

I did not choose the language for game making. In my education we used Java so that's what I have been using.
But after 3 games I am getting bored of it and want to try new things so I will try C++ next.
Just need to find something similar like libGDX for C++.

 

[tomphonse]

Just need to find something similar like libGDX for C++.

RayLib is probably the most popular lightweight games library right now.
If you want to go even more barebones though there is SDL2.

 

[baboogy]

Just need to find something similar like libGDX for C++.

RayLib is probably the most popular lightweight games library right now.
If you want to go even more barebones though there is SDL2.

Agreed, raylib is a solid pick if you want to just get up and running with the essentials. GUI good enough for prototyping, OpenGL wrapper with texture/model support, camera support out of the box, audio, file management, mouse/key/controller input, etc.

Very easy to set up, build, and start throwing something together. The API is self evident enough that you don't have to waste time on documentation, just grab the cheatsheet and get started.

 

[Cerulean]

For what it's worth, I make it a habit of checking job sites like Indeed about once a month or so. There's the big five: C/C++, Java, JavaScript, Python, and C# for the Microsoft shops... and after that it drops off a cliff. Anybody who says you need to learn Rust, or Go, or whatever, they're wrong. It's the big five languages that put food on the table.

 

[Not.AI]

Erlang (or c++). Use those 96 cores. Use those 128 cores.

Comment. I'm impressed this thread is still going. Religious arguments are long.

Starting to play a bit more with Godot. Yeah python-likes make me sad. But the engine is pretty good.

Also less pleased with Go over time, always falling back to c++ in the end.