Why all the NWN 2 hate?

[SarcasticUndertones]

Anyone who understands why is writing the strongest part of Torment would never claim that MotB doesn't come close. (IMO it's actually better.)

Better? LMAO.

..putting it in terms you are more likely to understand

 

[Jaesun]

Joined: Nov 23, 2014

 

[SarcasticUndertones]

Joined: Nov 23, 2014

We've been here before, haven't we?

 

[Jaesun]

Joined: Nov 23, 2014

We've been here before, haven't we?

Yes. Yes we have. Keep trying though hon.

 

[SarcasticUndertones]

Yep, and as I said back then too.. I do wish you 'quoters of dates' just coughed to it and spat your comments out, because then I could actually address whatever issues you seem to have, instead of having to write a seemingly civil post, that in fact boils down to nothing more than pointing a finger at the probability that what you do have to say isn't actually worth saying, hence 'just the date'.

 

[RK47]

Nope. And he's gay.
So watch your ass.

 

[SarcasticUndertones]

Nope. And he's gay.
So watch your ass.

Consider my bum plugged.

 

[Norfleet]

Agreed. Forgotten Realms is the dullest setting there is.

It's supposed to be. It *WAS* basically designed as Generic Fantasy Setting, because Greyhawk was getting too flavorful, not to mention too someone-else's-campaign.

 

[Shannow]

Anyone who understands why is writing the strongest part of Torment would never claim that MotB doesn't come close. (IMO it's actually better.)

Better? LMAO.

..putting it in terms you are more likely to understand

Joined: Nov 23, 2014

Yep, and as I said back then too.. I do wish you 'quoters of dates' just coughed to it and spat your comments out, because then I could actually address whatever issues you seem to have, instead of having to write a seemingly civil post, that in fact boils down to nothing more than pointing a finger at the probability that what you do have to say isn't actually worth saying, hence 'just the date'.

Posting the join date is to show that your opinion is shit and you are wrong in the eyes of this here exalted community. I'm sure, you've figured out as much.
However, your confusion in this case probably stems from Jaesun being a huge fag (and I don't mean the happy gay kind) in defending thoroughly overrated MotB (which might have flown if not compared to PS:T) and dumbfuck shit poster eremita (which would never have flown and he really should know better). The short answer is: he used it wrong.
Everything clear now? Good.

 

[SarcasticUndertones]

Anyone who understands why is writing the strongest part of Torment would never claim that MotB doesn't come close. (IMO it's actually better.)

Better? LMAO.

..putting it in terms you are more likely to understand

Joined: Nov 23, 2014

Yep, and as I said back then too.. I do wish you 'quoters of dates' just coughed to it and spat your comments out, because then I could actually address whatever issues you seem to have, instead of having to write a seemingly civil post, that in fact boils down to nothing more than pointing a finger at the probability that what you do have to say isn't actually worth saying, hence 'just the date'.

Posting the join date is to show that your opinion is shit and you are wrong in the eyes of this here exalted community. I'm sure, you've figured out as much.
However, your confusion in this case probably stems from Jaesun being a huge fag (and I don't mean the happy gay kind) in defending thoroughly overrated MotB (which might have flown if not compared to PS:T) and dumbfuck shit poster eremita (which would never have flown and he really should know better). The short answer is: he used it wrong.
Everything clear now? Good.

Lol, yeah I knew what he meant..I just enjoy calling people out, especially those who think their being smart. If you ask a moron to explain his moron actions they get all fumbly

 

[IncendiaryDevice]

Here's another Youtube video, much shorter this time, thankfully, but in just 7 minutes manages to display most of NWN 2's shortfalls:



1. The over-map's icons are really ugly, cut and paste and don't fit their background at all. Gives a massive sense of Tacky. (00:01-00:06)
2. Loading screens (00:07-00:56)
3. Are you dizzy yet? Camera (00:57-01:24)
4. Loading screen (01:25-01:34)
5. More dizzying camera (01:35-01:44)
6. Interesting Dialogue (01:44-01:51)
7. Run around a large empty space (01:52-02:08)
8. Loading screen (02:09-02:19)
9. Defeat trash mob (02:20-03:00)
10. Run around a large empty space (03:01-03:57)
11. Facepalmy cut scene (03:58-04:28)
12. Monsters that look amazing die easily (04:29-04:39)
13. Running around large empty spaces triggering loading screens and flinging the camera all over the place (04:40-07:16)

But as Abu said on a different thread, the music is wonderful, intoxicating even. And so there's you and your posse all kitted out strutting their stuff like legends to the most wonderfully intoxicating music in an environment which, once the camera is still, is a pleasure to behold (for the most part). It's like the Forgotten Realms version of ambient easy listening relaxation videos, where everything feels right, but also feels so, so, wrong. It's so difficult to find the exact right words to describe this situation, as if it's some kind of demo reel of a game where everything's there, but it's not anywhere near ready yet.

 

[Ramireza]

Here's another Youtube video, much shorter this time, thankfully, but in just 7 minutes manages to display most of NWN 2's shortfalls:

Boah, even watching this video is pure pain. WHY they fucked this up so heavily? I would prefer playing Skyrim or Dragon Age 2 instead of this shit.

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

Replaying as a Gray Orc Monk, and no one in the Orc Caves noticed I wasn't a run of the mill humie. I love NWN2 (even the OC), but that kinda bugged me. Also...Elanee. Yck.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Also...Neeshka. Yck.

Fixed.

 

[Transfiguring Roar]

Replaying as a Gray Orc Monk, and no one in the Orc Caves noticed I wasn't a run of the mill humie. I love NWN2 (even the OC), but that kinda bugged me. Also...Elanee. Yck.

Weren't Gray Orcs added in with SoZ?

I know it's lazy, and it would be nice if they did, but I wouldn't expect them to go back and change something like that in another module, if you know what I mean.

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

I suppose, but I thought Obsidian would follow Troika's path of not adding an option if they didn't have a proper reaction for it. You don't need to carry over additions to modules where they're not really utilized.



Did get the dinosaur animal companion, though. Badass.

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

Also...Neeshka. Yck.

Fixed.

Eh, Neeshka quiets down in the second half of the game and stops flipping out every time someone female talks to you. Elanee preaches the whole way through.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Yeah, but then her influence meter is schizo as fuck.
Be nice to some? -inf.
Be nasty to some? -inf.
Be indifferent? -Inf.
Threaten her rival? -inf.

Dale Carnegie would weep.

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

So Kreia without the wrinkles?

 

[SCO]

Yeah, but then her influence meter is schizo as fuck.
Be nice to some? -inf.
Be nasty to some? -inf.
Be indifferent? -Inf.
Threaten her rival? -inf.

Dale Carnegie would weep.

That's because she's a descendant of a chaotic creature of the lower planes man!


Fucking D&D.

 

[eremita]

Anyone who understands why is writing the strongest part of Torment would never claim that MotB doesn't come close. (IMO it's actually better.)

Better? LMAO.

..putting it in terms you are more likely to understand

Joined: Nov 23, 2014

Yep, and as I said back then too.. I do wish you 'quoters of dates' just coughed to it and spat your comments out, because then I could actually address whatever issues you seem to have, instead of having to write a seemingly civil post, that in fact boils down to nothing more than pointing a finger at the probability that what you do have to say isn't actually worth saying, hence 'just the date'.

Posting the join date is to show that your opinion is shit and you are wrong in the eyes of this here exalted community. I'm sure, you've figured out as much.
However, your confusion in this case probably stems from Jaesun being a huge fag (and I don't mean the happy gay kind) in defending thoroughly overrated MotB (which might have flown if not compared to PS:T) and dumbfuck shit poster eremita (which would never have flown and he really should know better). The short answer is: he used it wrong.
Everything clear now? Good.

Lol, yeah I knew what he meant..I just enjoy calling people out, especially those who think their being smart. If you ask a moron to explain his moron actions they get all fumbly

Joined: Nov 23, 2014

 

[RK47]

Also...Neeshka. Yck.

Fixed.

They're all terrible waifu material.

 

[Dr Skeleton]

Yeah, but then her influence meter is schizo as fuck.
Be nice to some? -inf.
Be nasty to some? -inf.
Be indifferent? -Inf.
Threaten her rival? -inf.

Dale Carnegie would weep.

At least you get to kill her at the end thanks to that.

 

[Sergiu64]

I think it's really a game you learn to hate when you play it as an adult. I think I remember first playing the game when I was that people pleasing teenager and I remember being sad that I had to kill NPCs I never took with me at the end of the game. Tried replaying NWN2 recently and... god, what an awful crew of NPCs... most of them deserve it.

 

[Crouching Caius]

Also...Elanee. Yck.

Kill her off then. Also probably the most memorable moments of the game. Be sure to bring Bishop and Neeshka for some hilarious dialogue.