Anime Why do Clerics suck so much?

[turkishronin]

Imagine the whole point of a class being... healing!(and occasionally messing with undead)
Basically most RPGs take into account so that the first companion you come across is a healer type, because they deep down know no one's gonna spend time at char gen to make a fucking healer. A modest amount of items would easily replace Clerics(who needs resurrection when you can just reload?)
Seriously, fuck Clerics.

 

[RaptorRex888]

Actually imagine how useful someone who can spontaneously heal or revive recently dead people would be.

But you're right, the protagonist being a straight cleric with no offensive capabilities makes him/her look weak. That's why multiclass / dualclass is a thing.

 

[Catacombs]

I see your point, especially in video games, but I've played a Cleric in multiple sessions of DnD and always had a blast. I built my character like a tank, capable of doing serious damage while also healing.

 

[Infinitron]

Fake news! OP clerics have been a staple of D&D 3E-influenced RPGs for many years.

 

[Jvegi]

It's because they live in a male dominated, highly hierarchical system which leads to easy exploitation on young members.

Also, boys will be boys.

 

[Night Goat]

Imagine the whole point of a class being... healing!(and occasionally messing with undead)
Basically most RPGs take into account so that the first companion you come across is a healer type, because they deep down know no one's gonna spend time at char gen to make a fucking healer. A modest amount of items would easily replace Clerics(who needs resurrection when you can just reload?)
Seriously, fuck Clerics.

Clerics aren't just healbots, unless they're being played by a retard. A D&D Cleric can be a better fighter than the Fighter, while doing a ton of other useful things besides.

 

[Darth Roxor]

come again?

 

[Butter]

Protection from Evil, 10' Radius.

 

[Xeon]

Yeah, clerics, in BG and IWD1, its like you said, they heal and deal with Undead if they are not evil. In IWD2 they can tank and be frontliners with all the self buffing and healing, they are really good.

 

[octavius]

The only weakness a Cleric has is being limited to 1 APR. And lack of weapon proficiencies in some systems.

 

[Rahdulan]

I see your point, especially in video games, but I've played a Cleric in multiple sessions of DnD and always had a blast. I built my character like a tank, capable of doing serious damage while also healing.

Yes. D&D clerics are basically so varied you could have a party full of them and still have a functional setup with all the roles filled in. Domains are god-sent. Video games don't do them justice because they're basically OP as fuck hybrids that can be build to suit whatever you need.

 

[what am i doing]

Guild Wars' Monk is the only time I've enjoyed playing a "healer", mostly because the profession had the ability to proactively stop most damage from being taken at all, with healing being supplemental rather than the class's main tool.

 

[Nortar]

Also cleric:

 

[HeatEXTEND]

Overzealous xenofobe dwarf cleric for PnP. Every. Single. Time.

 

[Absinthe]

Turkishronin, you're going to have to explain which games you're on about. It's not like clerics or healing classes are the same in every RPG.

 

[Catacombs]

Also cleric:

A truly underrated movie.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Why wouldn't you pick healing abilities at chargen if you can? Nothing else comes close to their usefulness.

Overzealous xenofobe dwarf cleric for PnP. Every. Single. Time.

That beard could get stuck on so many things...

 

[Lacrymas]

Not taking damage in the first place comes to mind :p As for the OP, I always play a healing class first.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Stop playing PoE where Clerics are indeed a bit shit.

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

WTF is going on in this thread? Clerics are probably the strongest base class in 3E when built correctly, and Priests in PoE are even more OP than in 3E. Fucking Knowledge(minmaxing) check failed Codex.

 

[turkishronin]

Turkishronin, you're going to have to explain which games you're on about. It's not like clerics or healing classes are the same in every RPG.

Infinity engine and games similar to to that.(party-based)

 

[Absinthe]

In D&D games Cleric classes are usually more versatile than they are taken for. They have fighting capabilities sufficient to outmatch most warrior-types if you allocate their stats for combat and have them cast their self-buffs, and depending on their domains they have a number of wizard spells at their disposal to boot. Even without domains (like in Baldur's Gate) they usually have a number of crowd control spells as well as summoning and necromancy. It's a common mistake to treat them as merely healers.

 

[Catacombs]

Why wouldn't you pick healing abilities at chargen if you can? Nothing else comes close to their usefulness.

Overzealous xenofobe dwarf cleric for PnP. Every. Single. Time.

That beard could get stuck on so many things...

The beard is a weapon on its own.

 

[Falksi]

I'm often drawn to play as a cleric and give it a shot, but they usually turn out to be quite boring to actually play gameplay-wise.

It'd be nice if the overall approach to them focussed a little more on offensive spells like.

 

[anvi]

Yall should play MMOs, they can make healers really interesting. The best I ever played was a game called Vanguard which had a Disciple which was a monk/druid type of hybrid. You have 2 targets, offensive and defensive, so you attack your offensive target and it heals your defensive target. Attacks build up spirit that you convert into a heal on your defensive target, or you can convert it into a counterspell or a buff instead. Rift is similar with the Bard, it is a lot of fun to play. Although it was really fun when the game first started, the enemies were really tough. They made it so easy now that the classes don't even matter anymore.